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Old 06-30-2008, 08:08 PM
"Geofrey Rainey"
 
Default ssh

Since the original poster, Joy Methew, has been accused of all sorts
Of dodgy behaviour, perhaps the accused should explain what their
intention is?

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com
[mailto:redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Terry Zink
Sent: Tuesday, 1 July 2008 5:16 a.m.
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: RE: ssh

Learning for knowledge reasons is fine, but the way you posted it
without any explanation makes it sound bad. :P


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From: redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com [redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com] On
Behalf Of bruce [bedouglas@earthlink.net]
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 12:22 PM
To: 'General Red Hat Linux discussion list'
Subject: RE: ssh

really...

i thought people also ask questions??? guess i was wrong. (note the
sarcasm!)

a guy is paying ~$2 million to have lunch with warren buffet. i'm
assuming
he's going to ask questions to learn more..

asking questions to further one's knowledge is completely useful in my
book.
and if you don't wish to answer.. you don't have to!! the world still
spins!!

peace

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com]On Behalf Of Jai Rangi
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 9:17 AM
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: RE: ssh


To improve knowledge, people either go to school or do some self study
on google.


-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com
[mailto:redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Joy Methew
Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 1:15 AM
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: Re: ssh

i dont want make wrong with anyone.........i wann improve my knowledge
here.


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Nabeel Moidu <nabeelmoidu@gmail.com>
wrote:

> >> But it honestly sounds like you are attempting to break into
something
> you
> >> shouldn't be which is not something that this list will assist you
with.
> >>
> >> -tz
> >>
>
> Exactly..The intention seems pretty clear here "... no he is nt so
> clever...."
> This isn't the right list to ask for help on this.
>
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Old 06-30-2008, 08:09 PM
"Stephen Carville"
 
Default ssh

On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Joy Methew <ml4joy@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi all...
>
> i can ssh an ip but can`t get access because i don`t know password......can
> we break the ssh password???

Does anyone still use passwords for access to ssh from an untrusted network?

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Old 07-01-2008, 03:58 AM
"Joy Methew"
 
Default ssh

please don't fight with each other....we are not here for fight........if
anybody think i am wrong...

i am so sorry for my question.......i will never ask like this
questions.........

you all the guys know if we will not ask each other how we will increase
knowledge....

i have done my school and college from best university of world........so
please don't suggest
me for school and college.....

again if u think i am wrong .....again i am so sorry.......



On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Stephen Carville <
stephen.carville@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Joy Methew <ml4joy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > hi all...
> >
> > i can ssh an ip but can`t get access because i don`t know
> password......can
> > we break the ssh password???
>
> Does anyone still use passwords for access to ssh from an untrusted
> network?
>
> :-) :-)
>
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Old 07-01-2008, 12:38 PM
"Mertens, Bram"
 
Default ssh

Joy

I don't believe (but let me stress that this is my opinion) that anybody
here believes you shouldn't ask questions.

But since (almost ?) everybody on a list like this is helping other
people out on their own time most of us expectthat anybody posting to
this (and other) lists has at least tried to solve the problem
themselves.
I'm not saying you haven't but then again you haven't provided much
insight either. And because we have only a fairly limited amount of
information available we have to fill in the blanks ourselves.
Considering most people on this list are likely to be in an
administrative role and therefore always confronted with possible
intrusions and the like you are not likely to find people here who take
kindly with something that - given the information available - looks
suspicious.

Consider the following: if somebody stopped you on the street and asked
you to pick the lock of the door os some house. Without knowing whether
or not this person owns the house or has any other valid reason to get
into the house would you help? I hope not. In fact - given that my
house has been burgled already - I hope you'd notify the authorities in
stead.

You may have perfectly valid reasons for trying to access a machine even
though you don't have physical access to the box and don't know a valid
password for it. But we cannot judge this and helping you at this point
might even make us accomplices to a crime.

I would recommend that you read
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html . It gives some
excellent advise on how to ask questions on lists just like this one.
If you follow the advise on this page and you can show that what you are
trying to do is legitimate I'm confident one of the knowledgeable people
on this list will be able and willing to help you.

Kind regards

Bram

>


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-----Original Message-----
> From: redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com
> [mailto:redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Joy Methew
> Sent: dinsdag 1 juli 2008 5:59
> To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> Subject: Re: ssh
>
> please don't fight with each other....we are not here for
> fight........if
> anybody think i am wrong...
>
> i am so sorry for my question.......i will never ask like this
> questions.........
>
> you all the guys know if we will not ask each other how we
> will increase
> knowledge....
>
> i have done my school and college from best university of
> world........so
> please don't suggest
> me for school and college.....
>
> again if u think i am wrong .....again i am so sorry.......
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Stephen Carville <
> stephen.carville@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Joy Methew
> <ml4joy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > hi all...
> > >
> > > i can ssh an ip but can`t get access because i don`t know
> > password......can
> > > we break the ssh password???
> >
> > Does anyone still use passwords for access to ssh from an untrusted
> > network?
> >
> > :-) :-)
> >
> > --
> > Stephen Carville
> >
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:24 AM
"Joy Methew"
 
Default ssh

Dear Bram...

I am agree with you....



On 7/1/08, Mertens, Bram <mertensb@mazdaeur.com> wrote:
>
> Joy
>
> I don't believe (but let me stress that this is my opinion) that anybody
> here believes you shouldn't ask questions.
>
> But since (almost ?) everybody on a list like this is helping other
> people out on their own time most of us expectthat anybody posting to
> this (and other) lists has at least tried to solve the problem
> themselves.
> I'm not saying you haven't but then again you haven't provided much
> insight either. And because we have only a fairly limited amount of
> information available we have to fill in the blanks ourselves.
> Considering most people on this list are likely to be in an
> administrative role and therefore always confronted with possible
> intrusions and the like you are not likely to find people here who take
> kindly with something that - given the information available - looks
> suspicious.
>
> Consider the following: if somebody stopped you on the street and asked
> you to pick the lock of the door os some house. Without knowing whether
> or not this person owns the house or has any other valid reason to get
> into the house would you help? I hope not. In fact - given that my
> house has been burgled already - I hope you'd notify the authorities in
> stead.
>
> You may have perfectly valid reasons for trying to access a machine even
> though you don't have physical access to the box and don't know a valid
> password for it. But we cannot judge this and helping you at this point
> might even make us accomplices to a crime.
>
> I would recommend that you read
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html . It gives some
> excellent advise on how to ask questions on lists just like this one.
> If you follow the advise on this page and you can show that what you are
> trying to do is legitimate I'm confident one of the knowledgeable people
> on this list will be able and willing to help you.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bram
>
> >
>
>
> Mazda Motor Logistics Europe NV, Blaasveldstraat 162, B-2830 Willebroek
> VAT BE 406.024.281, RPR Mechelen, ING 310-0092504-52, IBAN : BE64 3100
> 0925 0452, SWIFT : BBRUBEBB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com
> > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Joy Methew
>
> > Sent: dinsdag 1 juli 2008 5:59
> > To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > Subject: Re: ssh
> >
>
> > please don't fight with each other....we are not here for
> > fight........if
> > anybody think i am wrong...
> >
> > i am so sorry for my question.......i will never ask like this
> > questions.........
> >
> > you all the guys know if we will not ask each other how we
> > will increase
> > knowledge....
> >
> > i have done my school and college from best university of
> > world........so
> > please don't suggest
> > me for school and college.....
> >
> > again if u think i am wrong .....again i am so sorry.......
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Stephen Carville <
> > stephen.carville@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Joy Methew
> > <ml4joy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > hi all...
> > > >
> > > > i can ssh an ip but can`t get access because i don`t know
> > > password......can
> > > > we break the ssh password???
> > >
> > > Does anyone still use passwords for access to ssh from an untrusted
> > > network?
> > >
> > > :-) :-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stephen Carville
> > >
> > > --
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Old 07-02-2008, 01:58 AM
"Geofrey Rainey"
 
Default ssh

Joy,

Are you trying to access a system you shouldn't or what?

-----Original Message-----
From: redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com
[mailto:redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Joy Methew
Sent: Wednesday, 2 July 2008 1:25 p.m.
To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
Subject: Re: ssh

Dear Bram...

I am agree with you....



On 7/1/08, Mertens, Bram <mertensb@mazdaeur.com> wrote:
>
> Joy
>
> I don't believe (but let me stress that this is my opinion) that
anybody
> here believes you shouldn't ask questions.
>
> But since (almost ?) everybody on a list like this is helping other
> people out on their own time most of us expectthat anybody posting to
> this (and other) lists has at least tried to solve the problem
> themselves.
> I'm not saying you haven't but then again you haven't provided much
> insight either. And because we have only a fairly limited amount of
> information available we have to fill in the blanks ourselves.
> Considering most people on this list are likely to be in an
> administrative role and therefore always confronted with possible
> intrusions and the like you are not likely to find people here who
take
> kindly with something that - given the information available - looks
> suspicious.
>
> Consider the following: if somebody stopped you on the street and
asked
> you to pick the lock of the door os some house. Without knowing
whether
> or not this person owns the house or has any other valid reason to get
> into the house would you help? I hope not. In fact - given that my
> house has been burgled already - I hope you'd notify the authorities
in
> stead.
>
> You may have perfectly valid reasons for trying to access a machine
even
> though you don't have physical access to the box and don't know a
valid
> password for it. But we cannot judge this and helping you at this
point
> might even make us accomplices to a crime.
>
> I would recommend that you read
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html . It gives some
> excellent advise on how to ask questions on lists just like this one.
> If you follow the advise on this page and you can show that what you
are
> trying to do is legitimate I'm confident one of the knowledgeable
people
> on this list will be able and willing to help you.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bram
>
> >
>
>
> Mazda Motor Logistics Europe NV, Blaasveldstraat 162, B-2830
Willebroek
> VAT BE 406.024.281, RPR Mechelen, ING 310-0092504-52, IBAN : BE64
3100
> 0925 0452, SWIFT : BBRUBEBB
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> > From: redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com
> > [mailto:redhat-list-bounces@redhat.com] On Behalf Of Joy Methew
>
> > Sent: dinsdag 1 juli 2008 5:59
> > To: General Red Hat Linux discussion list
> > Subject: Re: ssh
> >
>
> > please don't fight with each other....we are not here for
> > fight........if
> > anybody think i am wrong...
> >
> > i am so sorry for my question.......i will never ask like this
> > questions.........
> >
> > you all the guys know if we will not ask each other how we
> > will increase
> > knowledge....
> >
> > i have done my school and college from best university of
> > world........so
> > please don't suggest
> > me for school and college.....
> >
> > again if u think i am wrong .....again i am so sorry.......
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 4:09 PM, Stephen Carville <
> > stephen.carville@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Sun, Jun 29, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Joy Methew
> > <ml4joy@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > hi all...
> > > >
> > > > i can ssh an ip but can`t get access because i don`t know
> > > password......can
> > > > we break the ssh password???
> > >
> > > Does anyone still use passwords for access to ssh from an
untrusted
> > > network?
> > >
> > > :-) :-)
> > >
> > > --
> > > Stephen Carville
> > >
> > > --
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Old 12-18-2008, 07:41 PM
andrew heggie
 
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I've been gifted a used, pc with which to experiment. Long term I intend to
give it to someone and connect to it as a remote desktop to give support.
I'll probably use xubuntu or kubuntu with many of the packages removed to
reduce time taken for updates online. It will be for an elderly person who is
only likely to browse, e-mail and possibly write letters.

I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log in
from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the repository, is
there another program that's supported and just the same?

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Old 12-18-2008, 07:54 PM
"Jonas Norlander"
 
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2008/12/18 andrew heggie <list@loampitsfarm.co.uk>:
>
> I've been gifted a used, pc with which to experiment. Long term I intend to
> give it to someone and connect to it as a remote desktop to give support.
> I'll probably use xubuntu or kubuntu with many of the packages removed to
> reduce time taken for updates online. It will be for an elderly person who is
> only likely to browse, e-mail and possibly write letters.
>
> I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log in
> from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the repository, is
> there another program that's supported and just the same?
>
> AJH
>
openssh-server is the package you want to install.

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Old 12-18-2008, 07:59 PM
Nils Kassube
 
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andrew heggie wrote:
> I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log
> in from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the
> repository, is there another program that's supported and just the
> same?

You are looking for the package "openssh-server".


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Old 12-18-2008, 08:00 PM
Bruce Marshall
 
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On Thursday 18 December 2008, andrew heggie wrote:
> I've been gifted a used, pc with which to experiment. Long term I intend to
> give it to someone and connect to it as a remote desktop to give support.
> I'll probably use xubuntu or kubuntu with many of the packages removed to
> reduce time taken for updates online. It will be for an elderly person who
> is only likely to browse, e-mail and possibly write letters.
>
> I was going to start by setting up a ssh server on it and trying to log in
> from this hardy box but openssh doesn't seem to be in the repository, is
> there another program that's supported and just the same?
>
> AJH

openssh is on hardy.... don't know what you are running.

openssh-blacklist
openssh-client
openssh-server

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