Hello I just have a simple question to ask… if im
going to install kubuntu inside windows is it safe? Like will I loose all of my
data or anything like that? Â*Or will it just be like a installed program
that doesn’t affect anything around it.
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Alex
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05-11-2008, 11:18 PM
"Andrew Jarrett"
FW: Installing Inside Windows
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Alex Osgood <tynamic77@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hello I just have a simple question to ask… if im going to install kubuntu
> inside windows is it safe? Like will I loose all of my data or anything like
> that? Or will it just be like a installed program that doesn't affect
> anything around it.
>
>
>
> Alex
If you are talking about using the "Wubi" installation program, then
it will just take some free space on your hard drive and create a
virtual partition (and won't affect your data whatsoever). Its pretty
much no risk -- just about as much risk as using a live CD (and I
don't know how that could ever mess up anyone's system). If you want
to uninstall it, you just remove it through the Add/Remove Programs in
the Windows Control Panel.
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05-12-2008, 08:25 AM
alan c
FW: Installing Inside Windows
Andrew Jarrett wrote:
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 6:12 PM, Alex Osgood <tynamic77@comcast.net> wrote:
>> Hello I just have a simple question to ask… if im going to install kubuntu
>> inside windows is it safe? Like will I loose all of my data or anything like
>> that? Or will it just be like a installed program that doesn't affect
>> anything around it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Alex
>
> If you are talking about using the "Wubi" installation program, then
> it will just take some free space on your hard drive and create a
> virtual partition (and won't affect your data whatsoever). Its pretty
> much no risk -- just about as much risk as using a live CD (and I
> don't know how that could ever mess up anyone's system). If you want
> to uninstall it, you just remove it through the Add/Remove Programs in
> the Windows Control Panel.
(I have used ubuntu, I have not yet tried the kubuntu CD)
As far as Windows is concerned it creates a normal install into a new
folder called Ubuntu.
The folder is big enough for Ubuntu - (minimum 4GB I think) and the
user decides how big, initially. You may know that a virtual
'partition' is being used but from the Windows point of view there is
no partitioning and no change to the partition tables with the risk
that that would offer.
Wubi also uses the Windows boot manager. This means that when un
installed, there is just normal Windows life, there is no complication
with having to repair the MBR.
So the Wubi install is data safe for Windows stuff, as safe as your
Windows stuff is, anyway.
The un install is done through the normal Windows Add or Remove
Programs, and is fast and clean. You are asked if the iso file should
be backed up, the default is 'yes'
My first reading of the OP was to think of the data safety of the
ubuntu data following the Wubi install (!) If Windows is subsequently
used then of course the Ubuntu folder is as vulnerable to malware as
much as any other Windows item. My preference would be to regard the
Wubi install as something more short term than the traditional
installation.
When running Ubuntu the Windows files can be seen under the /host or
/media directories.
I have been very impressed with Wubi and it is incredibly useful for
people getting started, and demonstrations.
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05-12-2008, 10:34 AM
Girard Henri
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andlinux works fine too and install like a normal win apps
andlinux.exe
at andlinux.org
i use it with vista everyday
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05-12-2008, 12:07 PM
alan c
FW: Installing Inside Windows
Girard Henri wrote:
> andlinux works fine too and install like a normal win apps
> andlinux.exe
> at andlinux.org
> i use it with vista everyday
Interesting - does anyone know enough about it to summarise the
differences (if there are any) in the approach between Wubi and Andlinux?
http://www.andlinux.org/
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05-13-2008, 05:26 PM
Sylviane et Perry White
FW: Installing Inside Windows
On Monday 12 May 2008 01:18, Andrew Jarrett wrote:
> If you are talking about using the "Wubi" installation program, then
> it will just take some free space on your hard drive and create a
> virtual partition (and won't affect your data whatsoever). Its pretty
> much no risk -- just about as much risk as using a live CD (and I
> don't know how that could ever mess up anyone's system). If you want
> to uninstall it, you just remove it through the Add/Remove Programs in
> the Windows Control Panel.
>
Hi,
Just out of curiosity, once you have booted into M$ what is the additional
time to "boot" into Wubi ?
Perry
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*I was already subscribed and didn't (really?) change my e-mail*
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If you are curious (although I have no need to apologise publicly to a mail
that was sent to me privatly by a machine) this is what happened:
Anyone *but the list* can mail me at xxx@freesurf.ch because...
My provider is closing the mail account I was using (xxx@freesurf.ch) and
forcing me to take a new mail account (xxx@sunrise.ch, served by
pop.gmail.com instead of pop.freesurf.ch)
I didn't expect any side effect since my *old address is redirected* and I
still receive mails @freesurf.ch but obviously the system managing the list
is having a hickup.
I just unsubscribed and tried to resubscribe with the same address to see if
the system would catch up... no way ;-(
Finally it worked with my address @sunrise.ch
If you read this far, perhaps you can explain.
Just out of curiosity Perry
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After yesterday's upgrade of lvm (lenny), I am getting this message on boot:
Found volume group evg using metadata type lvm2
Device '/dev/dm-0' has been left open
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Two logical volumes in volume group... ....
Except from that, everything seems to be working fine...
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05-13-2008, 06:17 PM
alan c
FW: Installing Inside Windows
Sylviane et Perry White wrote:
> On Monday 12 May 2008 01:18, Andrew Jarrett wrote:
>> If you are talking about using the "Wubi" installation program, then
>> it will just take some free space on your hard drive and create a
>> virtual partition (and won't affect your data whatsoever). Its pretty
>> much no risk -- just about as much risk as using a live CD (and I
>> don't know how that could ever mess up anyone's system). If you want
>> to uninstall it, you just remove it through the Add/Remove Programs in
>> the Windows Control Panel.
>>
>
> Hi,
> Just out of curiosity, once you have booted into M$ what is the additional
> time to "boot" into Wubi ?
It does not need to actually boot into Windows, although it does use
the Windows boot loader (instead of the more linux usual grub, say).
What happens is the usual bios start up and tests, then Windows (boot
loader) offers a text menu Windows or Ubuntu (default Windows)(looking
rather similar to the basic grub text display) with a countdown of
about 10 seconds I think, then if chosen, Ubuntu loads as it would
normally.
The extra time is in principle the 10 seconds or so it takes for the
Windows boot loader to be active an don the screen.
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05-14-2008, 03:29 PM
Sylviane et Perry White
FW: Installing Inside Windows
On Tuesday 13 May 2008 20:17, alan c wrote:
> Sylviane et Perry White wrote:
> > Just out of curiosity, once you have booted into M$ what is the
> > additional time to "boot" into Wubi ?
(snip)
>
> It does not need to actually boot into Windows, although it does use
> the Windows boot loader (instead of the more linux usual grub, say).
>
> What happens is the usual bios start up and tests, then Windows (boot
> loader) offers a text menu Windows or Ubuntu (default Windows)(looking
> rather similar to the basic grub text display) with a countdown of
> about 10 seconds I think, then if chosen, Ubuntu loads as it would
> normally.
>
> The extra time is in principle the 10 seconds or so it takes for the
> Windows boot loader to be active an don the screen.
I thought Wubi was running within M$. As you describe it then
perhaps there is no difference except for the countdown. Ubuntu also needs to
to wait for bios start up and tests, then get the bootloader going.
Thanks for the info Perry
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