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Old 05-28-2012, 02:07 AM
Leslie Anne Chatterton
 
Default Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04

Sorry to confuse you, I wasn't at the computer (using tablet). What I
was thinking of was "Automatically select icons". As I understand it,
if it's selected just hovering (staying motionless) over an icon
selects it and then it behaves just as if you had clicked it. I've
never used that behaviour and I don't think you want it. If that
checkbox is selected then uncheck it. If not, I'm sorry but I'm lost
too!

I just tested that setting and it didn't seem to do anything, so I
really don't know what is going on with Kubuntu. Thankfully, for me,
everything works well and I don't have the problems you have
experienced. Do you use some kind of proprietary mouse driver? Can't
think of anything else to try.

Good luck and let us know when you find the answer... "the truth is
out there..."

On 27 May 2012 15:41, Marcelo Magno T. Sales <mmtsales@gmail.com> wrote:
> Em domingo, 27 de maio de 2012, ąs 15:20:13, Leslie Anne Chatterton escreveu:
>> Check in System Settings, Input Devices, Mouse. It sounds like you
>> have enabled some behaviours that you don't want. The options on that
>> page enable/disable the ability for "hover selection" and dragging
>> without clicking.
>
> Hi,
>
> I do not have these options there. I have three tabs:
> General: options here are right/left handed, invert scroll direction and
> single-click/double-click to open files
> Advanced: pointer acceleration, some time intervals and lines to roll with
> mouse wheel
> Mouse navigation: options to configure mouse cursor navigation with the
> keyboard
>
> Couldn't find these options you mentioned anywhere in System Settings...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Marcelo
>
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Old 05-28-2012, 02:58 AM
Basil Chupin
 
Default Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04

On 28/05/12 03:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:

Hello,

I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing some
strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell
Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell notebooks)
where this problem does not happen. Some examples:


Sounds like it may be your video card driver. Are you using nVidia, for
example, but have not installed the "proper" driver[***] - that is,
still using the default nouveau driver?


[***] The latest nVidia driver is 295.53.

[.............]

BC

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Old 05-28-2012, 12:09 PM
"Marcelo Magno T. Sales"
 
Default Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04

2012/5/27 Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au>:
> On 28/05/12 03:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing some
>> strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell
>> Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell
>> notebooks)
>> where this problem does not happen. Some examples:
>
>
> Sounds like it may be your video card driver. Are you using nVidia, for
> example, but have not installed the "proper" driver[***] - that is, still
> using the default nouveau driver?
>
> [***] The latest nVidia driver is 295.53.
>
> [.............]

This system uses hybrid graphics (nvidia optimus), but I'm currently
running Intel graphics only. I've seen some solutions around the net
to activate and use the nvidia GPU, but haven't tried any of them yet.
So far, Intel graphics is doing good for what I need, so activating
the nvidia GPU is not a priority right now.
After my first post, I've noticed that all those pointer problems go
away if I disable the system's touchscreen device. Therefore, it seems
that the mouse and the touchscreen are fighting each other. Now I'm
trying to get rid of the problems while keeping a working touchscreen.

Thanks,

Marcelo

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Old 05-30-2012, 07:21 AM
Basil Chupin
 
Default Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04

On 28/05/12 22:09, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:

2012/5/27 Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au>:

On 28/05/12 03:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:

Hello,

I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing some
strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell
Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell
notebooks)
where this problem does not happen. Some examples:


Sounds like it may be your video card driver. Are you using nVidia, for
example, but have not installed the "proper" driver[***] - that is, still
using the default nouveau driver?

[***] The latest nVidia driver is 295.53.

[.............]

This system uses hybrid graphics (nvidia optimus), but I'm currently
running Intel graphics only. I've seen some solutions around the net
to activate and use the nvidia GPU, but haven't tried any of them yet.
So far, Intel graphics is doing good for what I need, so activating
the nvidia GPU is not a priority right now.
After my first post, I've noticed that all those pointer problems go
away if I disable the system's touchscreen device. Therefore, it seems
that the mouse and the touchscreen are fighting each other. Now I'm
trying to get rid of the problems while keeping a working touchscreen.

Thanks,

Marcelo


Good luck then in your quest for the solution.

But one of the things which *I* would have done is to install the proper
nVidia driver which would then at least eliminate one possible cause of
the problem; if this did not solve the problem then you can go on and
keep looking for the cause knowing that it is not the nVidia driver.


But then, you know best.

BC

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Old 05-30-2012, 05:40 PM
"Marcelo Magno T. Sales"
 
Default Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04

Em quarta-feira, 30 de maio de 2012, ąs 17:21:35, Basil Chupin escreveu:
> On 28/05/12 22:09, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> > 2012/5/27 Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au>:
> >> On 28/05/12 03:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:
> >>> Hello,
> >>>
> >>> I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64 bits fully updated and I'm experiencing
> >>> some
> >>> strange mouse behaviors, completely reproducible in this machine (Dell
> >>> Inspiron One 2320). I have three others (vaio notebook and two Dell
> >>> notebooks)
> >>
> >>> where this problem does not happen. Some examples:
> >> Sounds like it may be your video card driver. Are you using nVidia, for
> >> example, but have not installed the "proper" driver[***] - that is, still
> >> using the default nouveau driver?
> >>
> >> [***] The latest nVidia driver is 295.53.
> >>
> >> [.............]
> >
> > This system uses hybrid graphics (nvidia optimus), but I'm currently
> > running Intel graphics only. I've seen some solutions around the net
> > to activate and use the nvidia GPU, but haven't tried any of them yet.
> > So far, Intel graphics is doing good for what I need, so activating
> > the nvidia GPU is not a priority right now.
> > After my first post, I've noticed that all those pointer problems go
> > away if I disable the system's touchscreen device. Therefore, it seems
> > that the mouse and the touchscreen are fighting each other. Now I'm
> > trying to get rid of the problems while keeping a working touchscreen.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Marcelo
>
> Good luck then in your quest for the solution.
>
> But one of the things which *I* would have done is to install the proper
> nVidia driver which would then at least eliminate one possible cause of
> the problem; if this did not solve the problem then you can go on and
> keep looking for the cause knowing that it is not the nVidia driver.
>
> But then, you know best.
>

It's not that I'm ignoring your suggestion, it's just that it's not so simple
to test it. Right now, Xorg can't even see the nvidia GPU. It is "disabled",
so to speak (not exactly, is on and consuming power, but it's invisible for
the system). Only the Intel GPU is visible and this is the driver X loaded,
not nouveau. The proper nvidia driver does not find the nvidia GPU neither.
I've seen two solutions for activating the nvidia GPU in a system with nvidia
optimus technology:
https://github.com/MrMEEE/ironhide
https://github.com/Bumblebee-Project/Bumblebee

All those transformers seem great, but it takes some time to make them
work. This is not a priority for me at the moment and, since the nvidia GPU is
invisible for the system and the loaded driver is the Intel one, it doesn't
seem like the problems are caused by the video driver, specially if they all
go alway when the touchscreen is off.
But eventually I'll make the nvidia GPU work...

Thanks,

Marcelo


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Old 05-30-2012, 08:20 PM
Eberhard Roloff
 
Default Erratic mouse behavior in 12.04

On 05/30/2012 09:21 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 28/05/12 22:09, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:

2012/5/27 Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au>:

On 28/05/12 03:51, Marcelo Magno T. Sales wrote:

Hello,




But one of the things which *I* would have done is to
install the proper nVidia driver which would then at least
eliminate one possible cause of the problem; if this did not
solve the problem then you can go on and keep looking for
the cause knowing that it is not the nVidia driver.

This does not make much sense. Hybrid graphics means that
you can select "Intel"; "Nvidia" and "Switch according to
graphics power that is needed". At least some of the Vaios
at the company I do work for, are layed out like this.


As long as he is unsing "Intel", this in fact is an Intel
Laptop with Intel Graphics. No Nvidia and no Nvidia Driver
needed or used.


Eberhard



But then, you know best.

BC





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