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Just starting to experiment with activities - finally might have found a use
case for them ...

One activity I've setup is a development one - docs, some tools and the java
ide eclipse. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to respect the activity start or
stop. Is that because its not a KDE app? is there a way around it?
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On Mo, 2012-04-16 at 23:18 +1000, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> Just starting to experiment with activities - finally might have found a use
> case for them ...
>
> One activity I've setup is a development one - docs, some tools and the java
> ide eclipse. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to respect the activity start or
> stop. Is that because its not a KDE app? is there a way around it?
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Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular,
I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I
can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:42:19 PM Anj Tuesday wrote:
> Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular,
> I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I
> can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.

Yah, I've just discovered the same problem with rekonq too (9.1), stopping the
activity leaves a innaccessible phantom rekonq running. Start the activity and
there it is, instantly.

Most disappointing.
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On 04/17/2012 12:59 AM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:42:19 PM Anj Tuesday wrote:
>> Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular,
>> I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I
>> can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.
>
> Yah, I've just discovered the same problem with rekonq too (9.1), stopping the
> activity leaves a innaccessible phantom rekonq running. Start the activity and
> there it is, instantly.
>
> Most disappointing.

phantom programs? which KDE are you using?
phantom programs were a problem in KDE for a while now (well,
technically it's Qt's fault, not KDE), but i believe the latest 4.8.2
has solved the problem.

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469

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I actually would also like an answer to this. God holds all answers!

In Christ,
Ryan

"For God so loved the world in this way: He gave His one and only Son, do that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life." - John 3:16 HCSB

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On Apr 16, 2012, at 4:42 PM, Anj Tuesday <anj.tuesday@gmx.net> wrote:

> On Mo, 2012-04-16 at 23:18 +1000, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
>> Just starting to experiment with activities - finally might have found a use
>> case for them ...
>>
>> One activity I've setup is a development one - docs, some tools and the java
>> ide eclipse. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to respect the activity start or
>> stop. Is that because its not a KDE app? is there a way around it?
>> --
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>
> Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular,
> I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I
> can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.
>
> Anja
>
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On Monday, April 16, 2012 11:42:19 PM Anj Tuesday wrote:
> On Mo, 2012-04-16 at 23:18 +1000, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> > Just starting to experiment with activities - finally might have found a
> > use case for them ...
> >
> > One activity I've setup is a development one - docs, some tools and the
> > java ide eclipse. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to respect the activity
> > start or stop. Is that because its not a KDE app? is there a way around
> > it?
> Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular,
> I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I
> can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.
>
> Anja

Oddly, Chrome and Chromuim are the only applications that do not get along
with activities for me.
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On Di, 2012-04-17 at 03:55 +0300, Waleed Hamra wrote:
> On 04/17/2012 12:59 AM, Lindsay Mathieson wrote:
> > On Mon, 16 Apr 2012 11:42:19 PM Anj Tuesday wrote:
> >> Considering it works (for me) with Google Chrome but not with Okular,
> >> I would say the problem isn't the KDE-ess of an application. Sorry I
> >> can't be of much help. I'd like an answer to this myself.
> >
> > Yah, I've just discovered the same problem with rekonq too (9.1), stopping the
> > activity leaves a innaccessible phantom rekonq running. Start the activity and
> > there it is, instantly.
> >
> > Most disappointing.
>
> phantom programs? which KDE are you using?
> phantom programs were a problem in KDE for a while now (well,
> technically it's Qt's fault, not KDE), but i believe the latest 4.8.2
> has solved the problem.
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469
>
I think I have the same problem. But it's sort of the opposite of the
bug you linked. Stop (not just leave -- stop) an activity, and the
applications running on it keep running. Any process viewer will show
them alive and well, but they're invisible to the task bar (even if
said task bar is configured to show windows from all activities).

Actually, this has now stopped happening and been replaced by a
task bar twitching crazily with task items moving around at
some fast, computery speed. Fun :D

ANja



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Have done a bit of experimenting and in the process have come to quite
appreciate activities and they will be a lot better once apps behave better
under them *and* panels respect them.

I've found konqueror to be quite good - with it I can:

- Start it in two different activities with a different set of tabs open in
each

- stopping one activity still leaves a konqueror process running, as you woudl
expect.

- stopping both activites stops the konq process.

- No matter which order I stop/start the actitivies, konqueror opens up in the
same position with the right set of tabs per its parent activity (ie. a
different set for each activities).

This is pretty much how I would expect an app to work with activities, for
example I have:

Comics Activity
- konq up with half a dozen tabs open to different online comics

Dev Activitiy
- Konq opens to a few online references
- Konsole
- Eclipse (does not stop though)

Games Activity
- KPatience
- A bunch of short cuts to my favourite games

rekonq ufortunately seems to open a random set of saved tabs per activity, I
guess its not activity aware.

I'd *really* like to have different panels per activity but unfortunately its
not yet possible.

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2012 03:55:37 AM Waleed Hamra wrote:
> phantom programs? which KDE are you using?
> phantom programs were a problem in KDE for a while now (well,
> technically it's Qt's fault, not KDE), but i believe the latest 4.8.2
> has solved the problem.
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=275469

No, not that problem. I meant I close the Activity and rekonq vanishes with
the activity - isn't visible in any taskbar. But its still actually running, a
'ps -a|grep rekonq' show it still in the process list.

I done a bit more testing and the problem seems inconsistent, sometimes rekonq
did close. Also sometimes rekonq was still in the process list even after
manually closing it.

So I suspect the problem is with rekonq rather than activities.
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On Wed, 18 Apr 2012 01:56:19 PM you wrote:
> Have done a bit of experimenting and in the process have come to quite
> appreciate activities and they will be a lot better once apps behave better
> under them *and* panels respect them.

I'll add that adding the Activity Bar in a auto hide centered panel is really
useful too - makes seeing and switching Activities much better.



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