I love the name Kubuntu. Please don't change it.
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Today's Topics:
* 1. Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself (Anj Tuesday)
* 2. Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself (Dale Trombley)
* 3. Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself (Nils Kassube)
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:00:50 +0200
From: Anj Tuesday <anj.tuesday@gmx.net>
To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself
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Am Mittwoch, 11. April 2012, 07:53:51 schrieb Steve Cookson:
> > But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was
> > actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the
> > KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like
> > Calligra has. Suggestions welcome
"
>
> I took a strategic decision that W2k would be my last Windows distro, in
> fact I upgraded to XP.
>
> And then I took on a new project and had to choose a system, I chose Kubuntu
> for two reasons:
>
> - It had a more modern-looking desktop
> - It met my technical requirements better than the other distros.
>
> I quite liked that it was part of the "Ubuntu" co-brand. *Think Georgio
> Armani, Armani Jeans, Armani Exchange. It gave Kubuntu a larger foot-print
> because of the other members of the family. *For that reason I feel the
> Kubuntu punches above its weight.
>
> Had I understood about the connection with Debian at the time, this would
> have given me the same feeling, but this is not intuitive from the name.
>
> Maybe it could have been "Debuntuk", to connect to Debian, Ubuntu and KDE in
> one word.
>
> But it's all a bit clunky. *What we in the Linux community don't have it the
> 'Windows' cover name to give every distro the associated values of the
> family.
>
> Maybe it needs a 'nix in the name.
>
> Debuntuknix anyone?
>
> Have a good day.
>
> Steve
K-Tux would be a little gangster, yes?
~Anja
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 07:16:00 -0400
From: Dale Trombley <buzzmandt@gmail.com>
To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Subject: Re: Kubuntu future and the name itself
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I think if it were a brand new project it should have a new name. But the
way I understand it it is still ubuntu+kde. *Joke name or not Kubuntu is
now an established name in the *nix community. *My vote would be stick with
the name everyone knows.
On Apr 11, 2012 6:19 AM, "O. Sinclair" <o.sinclair@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/04/12 12:04, Nils Kassube wrote:
>
>> O. Sinclair wrote:
>>
>>> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language and
>>> has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not in
>>> themselves mean anything.
>>>
>>
>> *From<http://en.wikipedia.org/**wiki/Kubuntu#Name<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>
>>> >:
>>>
>>
>> | "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
>> | ubuntu ("humanity").
>>
>> *Well you certainly got me on that one.. but let me quote Jonathan from
> his blog that got me started on this:
>
> "We must remain part of Ubuntu, they are a great community for distros and
> we couldn't survive without them. Kubuntu is often incorrectly called a
> "derivative" of Ubuntu but we are part of the Ubuntu family and we are one
> of their flavours which is just where we should be.
>
> New markets? Kubuntu Active is taking shape. I'd love to have TV friendly
> media centre support too for example.
>
> But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it was
> actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers for the KDE
> side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease of life like
> Calligra has. Suggestions welcome
"
>
>
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Date: Wed, 11 Apr 2012 13:17:39 +0200
From: Nils Kassube <kassube@gmx.net>
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O. Sinclair wrote:
> On 11/04/12 12:04, Nils Kassube wrote:
> > O. Sinclair wrote:
> >> I kind of support that - where as Ubuntu is a word in a language
> >> and has a meaning, Kubuntu (and Xubuntu, Lubuntu et al) does not
> >> in themselves mean anything.
> >>
> >>From<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kubuntu#Name>:
> > | "Kubuntu" means "towards humanity" in Bemba, and is derived from
> > | ubuntu ("humanity").
>
> Well you certainly got me on that one.. but let me quote Jonathan
> from his blog that got me started on this:
>
> "We must remain part of Ubuntu, they are a great community for
> distros and we couldn't survive without them. Kubuntu is often
> incorrectly called a "derivative" of Ubuntu but we are part of the
> Ubuntu family and we are one of their flavours which is just where
> we should be.
>
> New markets? Kubuntu Active is taking shape. I'd love to have TV
> friendly media centre support too for example.
>
> But do we need a new name? Kubuntu has never been a great name, it
> was actually a joke name made up by the original Ubuntu developers
> for the KDE side. I wonder if a new name would give us a new lease
> of life like Calligra has. Suggestions welcome
"
I'm not so sure if the name is a problem. I think it is more a question
of marketing. To paraphrase my first boss (actually he was qouting
someone else): "You may want to give away a lump of gold but you will
only find a taker if you advertise." Take Firefox as an example. They
got their share of the browser market by an advert campaign and not
because of a great name. Or take MS Word as a second example. It is a
common name for a mediocre product but MS dominates the market due to
agressive marketing.
Nils
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