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Old 12-10-2011, 11:02 PM
Janos Dohanics
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 23:21:32 +0100
Nils Kassube <kassube@gmx.net> wrote:

> Janos Dohanics wrote:
> > While trying to set up KDE 4.7.2 (Kubuntu 11.10 AMD64) some
> > seemingly simple tasks turned out to be not so straightforward.
> >
> > One of these was to add the home folder and trash can to the
> > desktop.
> >
> > After some poking around I figured out that this can be accomplished
> > by:
> >
> > - Switch to Application Launcher
> >
> > - Highlight Computer in the menu
> >
> > - Right click on Home/Trash
> >
> > - Add to desktop
> >
> > That was simple!
> >
> > Then, I changed the number of desktops from 2 to 4 (my everyday OS
> > is FreeBSD, and I have 4 desktops there - I think that's the default
> > there).
> >
> > Adding 2 more desktops though made the home folders and trash cans
> > disappear.
>
> Obviously you also enabled the option "Different widgets for each
> desktop". If I don't enable that option the icons don't disappear.

I must have stumbled upon the "Different widgets for each desktop"
option. Still, should you expect that your existing customization
disappears after turning on this option?

> > Repeating the above procedure to add these items had no effect,
> > though. Did it again - nothing.
> >
> > Then, switched to another desktop - and there were 3 home folders!
> >
> > Finally, I figured out that performing the above procedure on
> > desktop
> > #1 will add the items to desktop #2.
> >
> > What works then is (for my 4 desktops): do the procedure on desktop
> > #n to get the effect on desktop #n+1 - except procedure on desktop #
> > [highest number] to get the effect on desktop #[lowest number].
>
> I can confirm that strange behaviour. It looks like a bug to me. I
> also tried it with a Kubuntu 12.04 daily live CD (from some time last
> week) with KDE 4.7.3 and it is still the same behaviour. Is it the
> same on your FreBSD system?

Haven't tried it...

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Old 12-11-2011, 07:41 AM
Nils Kassube
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

Janos Dohanics wrote:
> Nils Kassube <kassube@gmx.net> wrote:
> > Janos Dohanics wrote:
> > > While trying to set up KDE 4.7.2 (Kubuntu 11.10 AMD64) some
> > > seemingly simple tasks turned out to be not so straightforward.
> > >
> > > One of these was to add the home folder and trash can to the
> > > desktop.
> > >
> > > After some poking around I figured out that this can be
> > > accomplished by:
> > >
> > > - Switch to Application Launcher
> > >
> > > - Highlight Computer in the menu
> > >
> > > - Right click on Home/Trash
> > >
> > > - Add to desktop
> > >
> > > That was simple!
> > >
> > > Then, I changed the number of desktops from 2 to 4 (my everyday
> > > OS is FreeBSD, and I have 4 desktops there - I think that's the
> > > default there).
> > >
> > > Adding 2 more desktops though made the home folders and trash
> > > cans disappear.
> >
> > Obviously you also enabled the option "Different widgets for each
> > desktop". If I don't enable that option the icons don't disappear.
>
> I must have stumbled upon the "Different widgets for each desktop"
> option. Still, should you expect that your existing customization
> disappears after turning on this option?

Of course not, that's why I mentioned the bug report [1] in the other
mail. I'd expect that either I'm asked on which desktop I want to have
the current customization or to have that customization copied to all
desktops.

> > > Repeating the above procedure to add these items had no effect,
> > > though. Did it again - nothing.
> > >
> > > Then, switched to another desktop - and there were 3 home
> > > folders!
> > >
> > > Finally, I figured out that performing the above procedure on
> > > desktop
> > > #1 will add the items to desktop #2.
> > >
> > > What works then is (for my 4 desktops): do the procedure on
> > > desktop #n to get the effect on desktop #n+1 - except procedure
> > > on desktop # [highest number] to get the effect on desktop
> > > #[lowest number].

Thinking about it again, it seems you found another bug. This behaviour
isn't mentioned in the bug report although it might be related. Maybe
you should add that info to the existing bug report or file a new one.


Nils

[1] <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283653>

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Old 12-11-2011, 07:53 AM
Neil Winchurst
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

On 10/12/11 18:59, gene heskett wrote:
> On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine:
>
>> Janos Dohanics wrote:
>>> Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding
>>> application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if
>>> setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive.
>>>
>>> For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3?
>>>
>>> For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then
>>> could be customized) or a set of sample config files?
>>>
>>> For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config -
>>> with a pointer to explanations?
>>
>> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background on
>> each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't cracked it
>> with KDE4.
>>
>> Neil
>
> Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function has been
> restored after we threatened to tar & feather the kde folks who took it
> out. ;-)
>
> Cheers, Gene
Thanks for that. I have just checked, and my version of KDE is 4.6.2!!

Oh well, if I upgrade to Kubuntu 12.04 next year it should be there.

Thanks

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Old 12-11-2011, 08:10 AM
Neil Winchurst
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

gene heskett wrote:

On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine:


Janos Dohanics wrote:

Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding
application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if
setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive.

For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3?

For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then
could be customized) or a set of sample config files?

For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config -
with a pointer to explanations?


And,for example, making it possible to have a different background on
each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't cracked it
with KDE4.

Neil


Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function has been
restored after we threatened to tar& feather the kde folks who took it
out. ;-)

Cheers, Gene
As a further reply to this, I have Kubuntu v11.10 set up in VBox. I
have just checked and that is using KDE 4.7.2. And I still can't find
how to have different backgrounds on each desktop. That was so useful
in KDE3.


Still baffled

Neil

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Old 12-11-2011, 08:24 AM
"O. Sinclair"
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

On 11/12/11 11:10, Neil Winchurst wrote:

gene heskett wrote:

On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine:


Janos Dohanics wrote:

Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding
application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if
setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive.

For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3?

For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then
could be customized) or a set of sample config files?

For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config -
with a pointer to explanations?


And,for example, making it possible to have a different background on
each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't cracked it
with KDE4.

Neil


Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function has been
restored after we threatened to tar& feather the kde folks who took it
out. ;-)

Cheers, Gene

As a further reply to this, I have Kubuntu v11.10 set up in VBox. I have
just checked and that is using KDE 4.7.2. And I still can't find how to
have different backgrounds on each desktop. That was so useful in KDE3.

Still baffled

Neil

what do you mean by different backgrounds? I have different wallpapers
on my 2 desktops... all I do/did was "unlock widgets", right-click on
desktop, choose "desktop settings" and change to whatever wallpaper I
like. I have also experimented with using "search and launch" on 2nd
desktop and that also works.


Best
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:17 AM
Nils Kassube
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

Neil Winchurst wrote:
> On 10/12/11 18:59, gene heskett wrote:
> > On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine:
> >> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background
> >> on each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't
> >> cracked it with KDE4.

> > Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function
> > has been restored after we threatened to tar & feather the kde
> > folks who took it out. ;-)

> Thanks for that. I have just checked, and my version of KDE is
> 4.6.2!!
>
> Oh well, if I upgrade to Kubuntu 12.04 next year it should be there.

It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier.
However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled
(even in 12.04).


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Old 12-11-2011, 10:25 AM
Neil Winchurst
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote:
> Neil Winchurst wrote:
>> On 10/12/11 18:59, gene heskett wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine:
>>>> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background
>>>> on each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't
>>>> cracked it with KDE4.
>
>>> Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function
>>> has been restored after we threatened to tar & feather the kde
>>> folks who took it out. ;-)
>
>> Thanks for that. I have just checked, and my version of KDE is
>> 4.6.2!!
>>
>> Oh well, if I upgrade to Kubuntu 12.04 next year it should be there.
>
> It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier.
> However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled
> (even in 12.04).
>
>
> Nils
>
As I understand it, that means that I can have different icons on each
desktop, but it does not alter the colour of the background. What I am
looking for is to have the same icons on every desktop but different
background colours for each one.

Neil

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Old 12-11-2011, 10:34 AM
Neil Winchurst
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote:
> Neil Winchurst wrote:
>> On 10/12/11 18:59, gene heskett wrote:
>>> On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine:
>>>> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background
>>>> on each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't
>>>> cracked it with KDE4.
>
>>> Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function
>>> has been restored after we threatened to tar & feather the kde
>>> folks who took it out. ;-)
>
>> Thanks for that. I have just checked, and my version of KDE is
>> 4.6.2!!
>>
>> Oh well, if I upgrade to Kubuntu 12.04 next year it should be there.
>
> It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier.
> However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop" enabled
> (even in 12.04).
>
>
> Nils
>
As I understand it this just means that I can have different icons on
each desktop, not different backgrounds. Or am I wrong about that?

With KDE3, if I right clicked on the desktop and chose to change the
settings I saw a list of all the desktops so I could choose each one
separately and set the background colour as wanted. Now, with KDE4, I
don't see a list of the desktops, the only choice is 'Default desktop'.
Anything I do here changes all desktops together. Or am I missing something?

Neil

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Old 12-11-2011, 10:35 AM
Nils Kassube
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

Neil Winchurst wrote:
> On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote:
> > It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier.
> > However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop"
> > enabled (even in 12.04).

> As I understand it, that means that I can have different icons on
> each desktop, but it does not alter the colour of the background.

It doesn't alter the background automatically but you can change the
background for each desktop individually.

> What I am looking for is to have the same icons on every desktop but
> different background colours for each one.

Granted, that would be nice, but it is not possible. Even in 12.04 I
didn't find an option for that feature. So if you want different
backgrounds you would have to put the icons on every single desktop
manually.


Nils

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Old 12-11-2011, 10:44 AM
Neil Winchurst
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

On 11/12/11 11:35, Nils Kassube wrote:
> Neil Winchurst wrote:
>> On 11/12/11 10:17, Nils Kassube wrote:
>>> It is already available in version 4.4.5 (Lucid) and maybe earlier.
>>> However you need the option "Different widgets for each desktop"
>>> enabled (even in 12.04).
>
>> As I understand it, that means that I can have different icons on
>> each desktop, but it does not alter the colour of the background.
>
> It doesn't alter the background automatically but you can change the
> background for each desktop individually.
>
>> What I am looking for is to have the same icons on every desktop but
>> different background colours for each one.
>
> Granted, that would be nice, but it is not possible. Even in 12.04 I
> didn't find an option for that feature. So if you want different
> backgrounds you would have to put the icons on every single desktop
> manually.
>
>
> Nils
>
That is what I thought. It was available in KDE3 and I found it useful
to have different colours for the background of each desktop. Then I
could see at a glance which one was in use. Since KDE4 this seems to
have disappeared. I never understand why something that is working and
useful can be removed. I can understand why something new may not be
added because of the extra time and work needed. But here the work was
already done.

Oh well, never mind

Neil

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