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Old 12-10-2011, 06:53 AM
Janos Dohanics
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

While trying to set up KDE 4.7.2 (Kubuntu 11.10 AMD64) some seemingly
simple tasks turned out to be not so straightforward.

One of these was to add the home folder and trash can to the desktop.

After some poking around I figured out that this can be accomplished by:

- Switch to Application Launcher

- Highlight Computer in the menu

- Right click on Home/Trash

- Add to desktop

That was simple!

Then, I changed the number of desktops from 2 to 4 (my everyday OS is
FreeBSD, and I have 4 desktops there - I think that's the default
there).

Adding 2 more desktops though made the home folders and trash cans
disappear.

Repeating the above procedure to add these items had no effect, though.
Did it again - nothing.

Then, switched to another desktop - and there were 3 home folders!

Finally, I figured out that performing the above procedure on desktop
#1 will add the items to desktop #2.

What works then is (for my 4 desktops): do the procedure on desktop #n
to get the effect on desktop #n+1 - except procedure on desktop #
[highest number] to get the effect on desktop #[lowest number].

My apologies for having been a bit sarcastic - if anything, I should
learn more about KDE to get spared of frustration...

Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding
application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if
setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive.

For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3?

For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then could
be customized) or a set of sample config files?

For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config -
with a pointer to explanations?

I very much appreciate the vast number of configuration options, still,
those of us on the slower side, are a bit overwhelmed and lost...

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Old 12-10-2011, 08:15 AM
Neil Winchurst
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

Janos Dohanics wrote:


Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding
application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if
setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive.

For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3?

For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then could
be customized) or a set of sample config files?

For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config -
with a pointer to explanations?



And,for example, making it possible to have a different background on
each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't cracked it
with KDE4.


Neil

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Old 12-10-2011, 04:03 PM
stencil
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

On Sat, 10 Dec 2011 12:00:31 +0000,
in kubuntu-users Digest, Vol 83, Issue 13
Janos Dohanics wrote:

>I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if
>setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive.
>
>For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3?

You have that option, which is to replace KDE4.x with KDE3.5.
See
<http://www.trinitydesktop.org>

Works for me, using LTS Natty.

[ snipped 600-line rant about Glitzy Baroque Decadence Is Not
Advanced Technology, It's Performance Art And It Sucks]

gds, stencil

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Old 12-10-2011, 05:59 PM
gene heskett
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

On Saturday, December 10, 2011 01:58:22 PM Neil Winchurst did opine:

> Janos Dohanics wrote:
> > Still, as much as KDE developers deserve gratitude for an outstanding
> > application, I'm wondering if KDE would gain a larger following if
> > setup/customization would be a bit more simple, or more intuitive.
> >
> > For example, an option to display settings as they appeared in KDE3?
> >
> > For example, some sample configurations to choose from (which then
> > could be customized) or a set of sample config files?
> >
> > For example, listing of options in the style of Firefox about:config -
> > with a pointer to explanations?
>
> And,for example, making it possible to have a different background on
> each desktop. That was simple with KDE3. I still haven't cracked it
> with KDE4.
>
> Neil

Depends on your version of KDE. In 4.6.5 at least, this function has been
restored after we threatened to tar & feather the kde folks who took it
out. ;-)

Cheers, Gene
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Old 12-10-2011, 09:21 PM
Nils Kassube
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

Janos Dohanics wrote:
> While trying to set up KDE 4.7.2 (Kubuntu 11.10 AMD64) some seemingly
> simple tasks turned out to be not so straightforward.
>
> One of these was to add the home folder and trash can to the desktop.
>
> After some poking around I figured out that this can be accomplished
> by:
>
> - Switch to Application Launcher
>
> - Highlight Computer in the menu
>
> - Right click on Home/Trash
>
> - Add to desktop
>
> That was simple!
>
> Then, I changed the number of desktops from 2 to 4 (my everyday OS is
> FreeBSD, and I have 4 desktops there - I think that's the default
> there).
>
> Adding 2 more desktops though made the home folders and trash cans
> disappear.

Obviously you also enabled the option "Different widgets for each
desktop". If I don't enable that option the icons don't disappear.

> Repeating the above procedure to add these items had no effect,
> though. Did it again - nothing.
>
> Then, switched to another desktop - and there were 3 home folders!
>
> Finally, I figured out that performing the above procedure on desktop
> #1 will add the items to desktop #2.
>
> What works then is (for my 4 desktops): do the procedure on desktop
> #n to get the effect on desktop #n+1 - except procedure on desktop #
> [highest number] to get the effect on desktop #[lowest number].

I can confirm that strange behaviour. It looks like a bug to me. I also
tried it with a Kubuntu 12.04 daily live CD (from some time last week)
with KDE 4.7.3 and it is still the same behaviour. Is it the same on
your FreBSD system?


Nils

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Old 12-10-2011, 09:45 PM
Nils Kassube
 
Default Adding home folder/trash can to desktop + plea for simplicity

I wrote:
> I can confirm that strange behaviour. It looks like a bug to me. I
> also tried it with a Kubuntu 12.04 daily live CD (from some time
> last week) with KDE 4.7.3 and it is still the same behaviour. Is it
> the same on your FreBSD system?

Actually there is no need to try on your FreBSD system. I just found
this bugreport: <https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=283653>


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