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Jason Paul Joines 09-16-2011 01:30 AM

amarok changing timestamps on netcasts
 
I'm using Amarok 2.4.0 wind KDE 4.6.2 on Kubuntu 11.04.

By default Amarok stores netcasts I download in
~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/NAME-of-NETCAST. For some reason, it
changes the timestamp on some of the saved files every day. This
results in my backups picking them up every day. All of the files dated
"2011-09-15 19:25" in this list had their timestamps updated at the same
time for no apparent reason even though most of them were downloaded
weeks or months ago. Any ideas?


jason@rooibos:~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts$ find ./ -iname '*mp3'
-exec ls -dhl {} ;
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 73M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./WNYC's
Radiolab/radiolab082311.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-08 14:06 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-985119.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-07-20 17:14 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-978200.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 2.3M 2011-07-29 10:06 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-979583.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-01 09:19 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-984080.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-07-27 07:30 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-979182.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-30 12:20 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-983897.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-07-19 14:14 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-978018.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-03 13:51 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-980283.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-25 08:20 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-983269.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-18 13:04 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-982271.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 2.3M 2011-08-05 10:44 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-980572.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-19 14:04 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-982478.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-07-18 11:09 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-977780.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-17 13:21 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-982066.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-29 11:28 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-983634.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-14 14:14 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-985930.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-07-26 08:05 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-978989.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-07-15 08:48 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-977609.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-13 10:46 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-985746.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-07-25 11:11 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-978733.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-24 14:16 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-983103.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 2.3M 2011-08-04 08:19 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-980379.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-06 09:39 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-984442.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-07 13:58 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-984905.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-12 14:00 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-985326.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-16 11:16 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-981897.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-04 22:03 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-984602.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-23 10:14 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-982698.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-06 09:38 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-984791.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-07-21 07:06 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-978379.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-986361.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-02 17:04 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-979793.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-15 13:36 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-981673.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 2.3M 2011-07-28 11:33 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-979386.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-07-21 19:13 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-978555.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-09-15 13:53 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-986149.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 4.6M 2011-08-26 10:06 ./National Native
News/local-nv1-983443.mp3

-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 27M 2011-08-14 18:04 ./This American Life/412.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 28M 2011-07-24 18:44 ./This American Life/339.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 31M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./This American Life/445.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 28M 2011-08-28 19:07 ./This American Life/323.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 28M 2011-07-18 15:34 ./This American Life/440.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 28M 2011-08-21 19:02 ./This American Life/443.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 27M 2011-09-04 19:03 ./This American Life/444.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 28M 2011-07-31 09:07 ./This American Life/441.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 27M 2011-09-11 13:52 ./This American Life/241.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 27M 2011-08-05 10:44 ./This American Life/442.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 14M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./Global
News/globalnews_20110819-1612a.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 15M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./Global
News/globalnews_20110914-0351a.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 14M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./Global
News/globalnews_20110913-1602a.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 17M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./Global
News/globalnews_20110914-1638a.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 14M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./Global
News/globalnews_20110819-0436a.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 40M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./Freakonomics
Radio/freakonomics_specials060311.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 16M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./APM_ The Dinner Party
Download/dpd_20110819_128.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 18M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./APM_ The Dinner Party
Download/dpd_20110805_128.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 22M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./APM_ The Dinner Party
Download/dpd_20110722_128.mp3
-rw-rw---- 1 jason jason 17M 2011-09-15 19:25 ./APM_ The Dinner Party
Download/dpd_20110812_128.mp3

jason@rooibos~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts$


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Michael Hirsch 09-26-2011 04:28 PM

amarok changing timestamps on netcasts
 
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Jason Paul Joines <jason@joines.org> wrote:

* *I'm using Amarok 2.4.0 wind KDE 4.6.2 on Kubuntu 11.04.



* *By default Amarok stores netcasts I download in ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/NAME-of-NETCAST. *For some reason, it changes the timestamp on some of the saved files every day. *This results in my backups picking them up every day. *All of the files dated "2011-09-15 19:25" in this list had their timestamps updated at the same time for no apparent reason even though most of them were downloaded weeks or months ago. *Any ideas?


Are you sure that amarok isn't downloading them every time?

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Jason Paul Joines 09-26-2011 10:17 PM

amarok changing timestamps on netcasts
 
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: amarok changing timestamps on netcasts
From: Michael Hirsch <mdhirsch@gmail.com>
To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Date: 2011.09.26.Mon.11:28:06


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Jason Paul Joines <jason@joines.org
<mailto:jason@joines.org>> wrote:


I'm using Amarok 2.4.0 wind KDE 4.6.2 on Kubuntu 11.04.

By default Amarok stores netcasts I download in
~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/NAME-of-NETCAST. For some
reason, it changes the timestamp on some of the saved files every
day. This results in my backups picking them up every day. All
of the files dated "2011-09-15 19:25" in this list had their
timestamps updated at the same time for no apparent reason even
though most of them were downloaded weeks or months ago. Any ideas?

Are you sure that amarok isn't downloading them every time?

Michael



Now that's a good question but I'm not quite sure how to figure it
out. Amarok has marked these episodes as downloaded already so I don't
know why it would download them again. If I understand this output
correctly, I downloaded the file on the 20th and the time stamp was
changed for no apparent reason today but the file is still 6 days old
and not a new file. Also, I manually download these files via a
secondary-click in Amarok. Amarok is configured to automatically scan
for updates to this netcast but not to download them.


~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/Global News$ stat
globalnews_20110920-1559a.mp3

File: `globalnews_20110920-1559a.mp3'
Size: 12350125 Blocks: 24128 IO Block: 4096 regular file
Device: 804h/2052d Inode: 13371644 Links: 1
Access: (0660/-rw-rw----) Uid: ( 1000/ jason) Gid: ( 1000/ jason)
Access: 2011-09-20 16:25:28.835232044 -0500
Modify: 2011-09-26 17:04:58.209045046 -0500
Change: 2011-09-26 17:04:58.209045046 -0500
~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/Global News$


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Michael Hirsch 10-03-2011 09:43 PM

amarok changing timestamps on netcasts
 
On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Jason Paul Joines <jason@joines.org> wrote:

-------- Original Message --------

Subject: Re: amarok changing timestamps on netcasts

From: Michael Hirsch <mdhirsch@gmail.com>

To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>

Date: 2011.09.26.Mon.11:28:06




On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Jason Paul Joines <jason@joines.org <mailto:jason@joines.org>> wrote:




* * * I'm using Amarok 2.4.0 wind KDE 4.6.2 on Kubuntu 11.04.



* * * By default Amarok stores netcasts I download in

* *~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/NAME-of-NETCAST. *For some

* *reason, it changes the timestamp on some of the saved files every

* *day. *This results in my backups picking them up every day. *All

* *of the files dated "2011-09-15 19:25" in this list had their

* *timestamps updated at the same time for no apparent reason even

* *though most of them were downloaded weeks or months ago. *Any ideas?



Are you sure that amarok isn't downloading them every time?



Michael






* *Now that's a good question but I'm not quite sure how to figure it out. *Amarok has marked these episodes as downloaded already so I don't know why it would download them again. *If I understand this output correctly, I downloaded the file on the 20th and the time stamp was changed for no apparent reason today but the file is still 6 days old and not a new file. *Also, I manually download these files via a secondary-click in Amarok. *Amarok is configured to automatically scan for updates to this netcast but not to download them.




~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/Global News$ stat globalnews_20110920-1559a.mp3

*File: `globalnews_20110920-1559a.mp3'

*Size: 12350125 * * * *Blocks: 24128 * * *IO Block: 4096 * regular file

Device: 804h/2052d * * *Inode: 13371644 * *Links: 1

Access: (0660/-rw-rw----) *Uid: ( 1000/ * jason) * Gid: ( 1000/ * jason)

Access: 2011-09-20 16:25:28.835232044 -0500

Modify: 2011-09-26 17:04:58.209045046 -0500

Change: 2011-09-26 17:04:58.209045046 -0500

~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/Global News$
Hmm.* Has the md5sum changed?* It's possible that the file has changed on the server, though unlikely.

You can also look at how many bytes get transfered.* "ifconfig eth0" tells you how many bytes have been transmitted and received.* If you run it before and after, while doing nothing else, you should get a rough count of home many bytes really were received.* If this is less than the file size the it didn't really download the file.


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Jason Paul Joines 10-04-2011 04:47 PM

amarok changing timestamps on netcasts
 
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: amarok changing timestamps on netcasts
From: Michael Hirsch <mdhirsch@gmail.com>
To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
Date: 2011.10.03.Mon.16:43:39



On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Jason Paul Joines <jason@joines.org
<mailto:jason@joines.org>> wrote:


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: amarok changing timestamps on netcasts
From: Michael Hirsch <mdhirsch@gmail.com <mailto:mdhirsch@gmail.com>>
To: Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com
<mailto:kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>>
Date: 2011.09.26.Mon.11:28:06


On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Jason Paul Joines
<jason@joines.org <mailto:jason@joines.org>
<mailto:jason@joines.org <mailto:jason@joines.org>>> wrote:

I'm using Amarok 2.4.0 wind KDE 4.6.2 on Kubuntu 11.04.

By default Amarok stores netcasts I download in
~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/NAME-of-NETCAST. For some
reason, it changes the timestamp on some of the saved files
every
day. This results in my backups picking them up every day.
All
of the files dated "2011-09-15 19:25" in this list had their
timestamps updated at the same time for no apparent reason even
though most of them were downloaded weeks or months ago.
Any ideas?

Are you sure that amarok isn't downloading them every time?

Michael



Now that's a good question but I'm not quite sure how to figure
it out. Amarok has marked these episodes as downloaded already so
I don't know why it would download them again. If I understand
this output correctly, I downloaded the file on the 20th and the
time stamp was changed for no apparent reason today but the file
is still 6 days old and not a new file. Also, I manually download
these files via a secondary-click in Amarok. Amarok is configured
to automatically scan for updates to this netcast but not to
download them.

~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/Global News$ stat
globalnews_20110920-1559a.mp3
File: `globalnews_20110920-1559a.mp3'
Size: 12350125 Blocks: 24128 IO Block: 4096 regular
file
Device: 804h/2052d Inode: 13371644 Links: 1
Access: (0660/-rw-rw----) Uid: ( 1000/ jason) Gid: ( 1000/
jason)

Access: 2011-09-20 16:25:28.835232044 -0500
Modify: 2011-09-26 17:04:58.209045046 -0500
Change: 2011-09-26 17:04:58.209045046 -0500
~/.kde/share/apps/amarok/podcasts/Global News$

Hmm. Has the md5sum changed? It's possible that the file has changed
on the server, though unlikely.


You can also look at how many bytes get transfered. "ifconfig eth0"
tells you how many bytes have been transmitted and received. If you
run it before and after, while doing nothing else, you should get a
rough count of home many bytes really were received. If this is less
than the file size the it didn't really download the file.


Michael




I'll check the md5sums.

I can't use the bytes from ifconfig though. I have no idea when
Amarok will change the time stamps, it's not the same time every day,
and there's a lot of network use other than Amarok.



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