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Old 02-09-2011, 02:51 PM
Brian Wootton
 
Default Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev) (Michael Hirsch)

On 09/02/11 12:00, kubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

Subject:
Re: Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev)
From:
Michael Hirsch <mdhirsch@gmail.com>
Date:
Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:06:01 -0700

To:
Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>


On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Brian Wootton<Brian.Meg@btinternet.com> wrote:

> On 05/02/11 12:00,kubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:

>>>
>>> I know the info is probably under my nose but I can't find

>>> > anywhere the expanded listing for the Function keys, can
>>> > anybody point me in the right direction:
>>> > >
>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> > -----------------------
>>> > > *General*Ctrl* keys*
>>> > > *Ctrl*+*A

>>> > Select

>>> > *Ctrl*+*PageDown*
>>> > Move to the lower part in the current directory.
>>> > > *Ctrl*+*F1..F12*
>>> > Standard (KDE) key-bindings.
>>> > > *Ctrl*+*Shift*+*F1..F12*
>>> > Standard (KDE) key-bindings.
>>> >

>>
>> Did you try System Settings ------> Shortcuts and Gestures?
>> gk
>>
>>

> Yes, amongst a lot of other places, couldn't see them there or anywhere
> else, hence this query.

It would be nice if there were just one place to find this, but it
isn't quite that simple.

System Settings ------> Shortcuts and Gestures shows you three icons:
"Custom Shortcuts", "Standard Keyboard Shortcuts", and "Global
Keyboard Shortcuts". The keybindings are distrubuted among these 3
things, each with several sub-categories just to make this more
difficult.

If you don't see this, then you need to fix you systemsettings tool.

Many of the settings are in the standard shortcuts which is also the
easiest to understand. These are apparently the shortcuts that are
used by all KDE apps. You can click on the "Shortcut" column to sort
by shortcut which helps find the one you want.

Most of the bindings are in the global shortcuts. Unfortunately,
these are broken up into different KDE components. So, if I am
looking for, say, Control-F1, which is bound to "Switch to Desktop 1"
on my machine, I have to go through the different components before I
find it in the KWin settings.

There is also "Custom Shortucts" that I've never had to deal with.

Michael


Sorry to be a dumb- bunny but I've again searched System Settings
------> Shortcuts and Gestures

and I can't find any of CTRL Fx or SHFT Fx mentioned anywhere in it.
I have Kubuntu 10.10 on an amd64 and have not touched System Settings
as installed from the
downloaded .iso. I can't even find Kwin, I do have the 'Custom',
'Standard' and 'Global' icons but in none

of them is there any mention of CTRL F(any) or SHFT F(any) or Kwin.

Like I say the listings in
'http://www.krusader.org/handbook/key_bindings.html' at least reference them

under 'General CTRL keys' even if it doesn't list them.
Is there a newer or different version of System settings, cos I don't
think I can have the same one you

are describing.
brian



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Old 02-09-2011, 09:16 PM
Michael Hirsch
 
Default Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev) (Michael Hirsch)

On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Brian Wootton <Brian.Meg@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On 09/02/11 12:00, kubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com wrote:
>>
>> Subject:
>> Re: Standard (KDE) key-bindings (Georgi Kourtev)
>> From:
>> Michael Hirsch <mdhirsch@gmail.com>
>> Date:
>> Tue, 8 Feb 2011 12:06:01 -0700
>>
>> To:
>> Kubuntu user technical support <kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Brian Wootton<Brian.Meg@btinternet.com>
>> *wrote:
>>>
>>> > *On 05/02/11 12:00,kubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com *wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> >>>
>>>>> >>> *I know the info is probably under my nose but I can't find
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> *> * *anywhere the expanded listing for the Function keys, can
>>>>>> >>> *> * *anybody point me in the right direction:
>>>>>> >>> *> * *>
>>>>>> >>> *>
>>>>>> >>> *---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> >>> *> * *-----------------------
>>>>>> >>> *> * *> * **General*Ctrl* * *keys*
>>>>>> >>> *> * *> * **Ctrl*+*A
>>>>>
>>>>> >>> * *> * *Select
>>>>>>
>>>>>> >>> *> * **Ctrl*+*PageDown*
>>>>>> >>> *> * *Move to the lower part in the current directory.
>>>>>> >>> *> * *> * **Ctrl*+*F1..F12*
>>>>>> >>> *> * *Standard (KDE) key-bindings.
>>>>>> >>> *> * *> * **Ctrl*+*Shift*+*F1..F12*
>>>>>> >>> *> * *Standard (KDE) key-bindings.
>>>>>> >>> *>
>>>>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Did you try System Settings ------> * *Shortcuts and Gestures?
>>>> >> *gk
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>
>>> > *Yes, amongst a lot of other places, couldn't see them there or
>>> > anywhere
>>> > *else, hence this query.
>>
>> It would be nice if there were just one place to find this, but it
>> isn't quite that simple.
>>
>> System Settings ------> * Shortcuts and Gestures shows you three icons:
>> "Custom Shortcuts", "Standard Keyboard Shortcuts", and "Global
>> Keyboard Shortcuts". *The keybindings are distrubuted among these 3
>> things, each with several sub-categories just to make this more
>> difficult.
>>
>> If you don't see this, then you need to fix you systemsettings tool.
>>
>> Many of the settings are in the standard shortcuts which is also the
>> easiest to understand. *These are apparently the shortcuts that are
>> used by all KDE apps. *You can click on the "Shortcut" column to sort
>> by shortcut which helps find the one you want.
>>
>> Most of the bindings are in the global shortcuts. *Unfortunately,
>> these are broken up into different KDE components. *So, if I am
>> looking for, say, Control-F1, which is bound to "Switch to Desktop 1"
>> on my machine, I have to go through the different components before I
>> find it in the KWin settings.
>>
>> There is also "Custom Shortucts" that I've never had to deal with.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
> Sorry to be a dumb- bunny but I've again searched *System Settings ------>
> Shortcuts and Gestures
> and I can't find any of CTRL Fx or SHFT Fx mentioned anywhere in it.
> *I have Kubuntu 10.10 on an amd64 and have not touched *System Settings as
> installed from the
> downloaded .iso. I can't even find Kwin, I do have the 'Custom', 'Standard'
> and 'Global' icons but in none
> of them is there any mention of CTRL F(any) or SHFT F(any) or Kwin.
>
> Like I say the listings in
> 'http://www.krusader.org/handbook/key_bindings.html' at least reference them
> under 'General CTRL keys' even if it doesn't list them.
> *Is there a newer or different version of System settings, cos I don't think
> I can have the same one you
> are describing.

This feature has been around in systemsettings for a long time. I
don't think it matters if you are using KDE 4.5.4 or 4.5.5.

Just to make sure we are talking about the same thing, here is a
screenshot of systemsettings on my system. See the part labeled "KDE
component:" and then the "KWin" label on the drop-down. What
components do you have in that dropdown?

https://photos-1.dropbox.com/i/l/2pCUg9yQ9VJ-PmY0zmgXQqxhmtq2nRwJRjZ3xDiTgSo/11678370/1297378800/4f54d6c#1

On a semi-related note--your emails to the list always seem to break
gmail's threading. Are you using the reply button, or doing something
unusual to create your replies?

Michael

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