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Old 02-04-2008, 04:16 AM
Douglas McClendon
 
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Jeremy Katz wrote:

On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 17:11 -0600, Douglas McClendon wrote:

Jeremy Katz wrote:

On Sat, 2008-02-02 at 07:34 +0900, John Summerfield wrote:

The absolute minimum maintainable set should be "minimum."

It needs a text editor, and the one history tells us should be there is
vi (not that johnny-come-lately nano that some install).


I don't care whether the practical minimum is "base" or "core," and I
think I'm not alone in being unable to see the difference between the terms.

The problem is that the word "minimum" is so heavily loaded (and
differently loaded) that if you use it, you make no one happy. So, you
pick different terms so that people can have the "minimum" they are
looking for

I was both joking, and making your point about this, regarding ed vs vi.

But a real question is this- Can the parsing of the package list be
improved so that the original intuitive attempt at the beginning of this
thread-


%packages
@base
-selinux-policy
-selinux-policy-targeted
-selinux-policy-mls
%end

would actually work?


It should be working -- I haven't tried it in anaconda in a while, but
it definitely was working in livecd-creator when I was poking at the
smallest installs back before the holiday. I'll try to fire up an
install later in the weekend and try. But right now, it's 8 pm on
Friday night and so I am going to enjoy the evening :-)


You mean RH actually lets you have friday nights off?

Anyway, perhaps related, I just filed this bug-

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431393

-dmc

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Old 02-04-2008, 12:43 PM
Jesse Keating
 
Default Minimal systems

On Mon, 04 Feb 2008 13:42:21 -0500
Jeremy Katz <katzj@redhat.com> wrote:

> [1] No rawhide images today and F8 is the other thing that I keep
> handy for testing

There are images for x86_64 and ppc. i386 just failed for some reason
I haven't yet determined.

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Old 02-04-2008, 05:42 PM
Jeremy Katz
 
Default Minimal systems

On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 20:06 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:
> On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 17:11 -0600, Douglas McClendon wrote:
> > But a real question is this- Can the parsing of the package list be
> > improved so that the original intuitive attempt at the beginning of this
> > thread-
> >
> > %packages
> > @base
> > -selinux-policy
> > -selinux-policy-targeted
> > -selinux-policy-mls
> > %end
> >
> > would actually work?
>
> It should be working -- I haven't tried it in anaconda in a while, but
> it definitely was working in livecd-creator when I was poking at the
> smallest installs back before the holiday. I'll try to fire up an
> install later in the weekend and try. But right now, it's 8 pm on
> Friday night and so I am going to enjoy the evening :-)

I just did this install with F8[1] and it worked as I expected. The
only things in the output of 'rpm -qa |grep -i selinux' is libselinux
and its python bindings. Which are required by other things which get
installed and can't really be taken out without rebuilding things to not
link with the library

Jeremy

[1] No rawhide images today and F8 is the other thing that I keep handy
for testing

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Old 02-04-2008, 06:23 PM
Gary Thomas
 
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Jeremy Katz wrote:

On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 20:06 -0500, Jeremy Katz wrote:

On Fri, 2008-02-01 at 17:11 -0600, Douglas McClendon wrote:
But a real question is this- Can the parsing of the package list be
improved so that the original intuitive attempt at the beginning of this
thread-


%packages
@base
-selinux-policy
-selinux-policy-targeted
-selinux-policy-mls
%end

would actually work?

It should be working -- I haven't tried it in anaconda in a while, but
it definitely was working in livecd-creator when I was poking at the
smallest installs back before the holiday. I'll try to fire up an
install later in the weekend and try. But right now, it's 8 pm on
Friday night and so I am going to enjoy the evening :-)


I just did this install with F8[1] and it worked as I expected. The
only things in the output of 'rpm -qa |grep -i selinux' is libselinux
and its python bindings. Which are required by other things which get
installed and can't really be taken out without rebuilding things to not
link with the library


As mentioned, it *used* to work for me, up through at least 11.4.0.21.
I'm running 11.4.0.28 now and this just started happening to me.

I anticipate trying it on rawhide (11.4.0.30+), once the i386 images
are back.

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Old 02-04-2008, 06:38 PM
Jeremy Katz
 
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On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 12:23 -0700, Gary Thomas wrote:
> As mentioned, it *used* to work for me, up through at least 11.4.0.21.
> I'm running 11.4.0.28 now and this just started happening to me.

Aha, I missed that specific tidbit. Or had forgotten by the time we got
this far in the thread. Or something. I have no excuses for myself
really.

> I anticipate trying it on rawhide (11.4.0.30+), once the i386 images
> are back.

The code for doing the removal has changed (so that we can use globs
like you can when adding packages). It's entirely possible a buglet
creeped in at the same time. Should be quick and easy to knock out,
though

Jeremy

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