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Old 04-16-2010, 12:22 PM
Basil Chupin
 
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On 16/04/10 21:27, Liam Proven wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Basil Chupin<blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>> I stuffed up my earlier post by asking about Midnight Commander and not
>> about the Terminal I normally open it in because the Terminal and mc are
>> almost synonymous to me in the way I use both.
>>
>> My intended question was: how do I make the *TERMINAL* open in full
>> screen mode and not as a small window (and then having to enlarge it)?
>> Whatever I have tried so far (click-drag to full page, maximising) is
>> ineffective and it always opens as a small window.
>>
>> Anyone know how to make it behave? (Or is another one of those
>> ALT-something thingies..... :-) )
>>
> Leave it the size you want it when you shut down. It should remember
> and reopen that size next time.
>

As I wrote above, this is the problem- it doesn't "remember" and always
opens small.

From what I have looked at so far, it is the only program which doesn't
behave normally.

> Or, just press Ctrl-Alt-1 to 6 and use the real text console.
>

Which is another thing I have a gripe about - and which is why I don't
use my usual ALT-CTRL-F3 in Lucid: the font which comes up is primitive,
something I guess to be from the EGA era of 800X640 resolution, and I am
used to 1920X1080. Never had this problem until I started using Ubuntu
(Lucid). How can the resolution in these terminals (ALT-CTRLF1-F6) be
made to be the same as the Desktop setting? Or is this just a temporary
glitch in Beta 2?

>> I don't like water because of the things fish do in it.
>>
>> W C Fields
>>
> If you're going to claim to quote someone, don't bowdlerise the quote!
> That's butchered and it's a travesty. Fields *actually* said: "I never
> drink water; fish fuck in it" - which is far more amusing, not to
> mention pithier by far.
>

LOL!

I only ever saw the above quote and didn't know what he actually said.
I'll change the wording accordingly :-)

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Old 04-16-2010, 12:34 PM
Liam Proven
 
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On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Basil Chupin <blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> On 16/04/10 21:27, Liam Proven wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Basil Chupin<blchupin@iinet.net.au> Â*wrote:
>>
>>> I stuffed up my earlier post by asking about Midnight Commander and not
>>> about the Terminal I normally open it in because the Terminal and mc are
>>> almost synonymous to me in the way I use both.
>>>
>>> My intended question was: how do I make the *TERMINAL* open in full
>>> screen mode and not as a small window (and then having to enlarge it)?
>>> Whatever I have tried so far (click-drag to full page, maximising) is
>>> ineffective and it always opens as a small window.
>>>
>>> Anyone know how to make it behave? (Or is another one of those
>>> ALT-something thingies..... :-) )
>>>
>> Leave it the size you want it when you shut down. It should remember
>> and reopen that size next time.
>>
>
> As I wrote above, this is the problem- it doesn't "remember" and always
> opens small.
>
> Â*From what I have looked at so far, it is the only program which doesn't
> behave normally.

Hmm. I've not tested it recently - I don't generally leave terminals
open - but IIRC it had to be open *when you shutdown or logged out of
GNOME*. This is what it did a couple of years back, anyway!

>> Or, just press Ctrl-Alt-1 to 6 and use the real text console.
>>
>
> Which is another thing I have a gripe about - and which is why I don't
> use my usual ALT-CTRL-F3 in Lucid: the font which comes up is primitive,
> something I guess to be from the EGA era of 800X640 resolution, and I am
> used to 1920X1080. Never had this problem until I started using Ubuntu
> (Lucid). How can the resolution in these terminals (ALT-CTRLF1-F6) be
> made to be the same as the Desktop setting? Or is this just a temporary
> glitch in Beta 2?

It's normal behaviour for Linux. The virtual consoles are in VGA text
mode, normally. Ubuntu has always done this along with all Linuxes.

You can pass parameters in GRUB to set the console to a particular
screen mode, but if you set it to the native resolution of the
monitor, the text will get *very* small. Generally the font remains
9x9 pixels or whatever and you just get more columns.

Enjoy the retro feel of the text mode that pretty much the entire
computing world looked at from the1980s to the 1990s!

>>> I don't like water because of the things fish do in it.
>>>
>>> Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* Â* W C Fields
>>>
>> If you're going to claim to quote someone, don't bowdlerise the quote!
>> That's butchered and it's a travesty. Fields *actually* said: "I never
>> drink water; fish fuck in it" - which is far more amusing, not to
>> mention pithier by far.
>>
>
> LOL!
>
> I only ever saw the above quote and didn't know what he actually said.
> I'll change the wording accordingly :-)

:¬) You'll probably get banned from some lists for the Naughty Word.

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Old 04-16-2010, 12:48 PM
Nils Kassube
 
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Basil Chupin wrote:
> My intended question was: how do I make the *TERMINAL* open in full
> screen mode and not as a small window (and then having to enlarge
> it)? Whatever I have tried so far (click-drag to full page,
> maximising) is ineffective and it always opens as a small window.

~/ > gnome-terminal --help
Usage:
gnome-terminal [OPTION...]

Help Options:
-h, --help Show help options
--help-all Show all help options
--help-terminal Show terminal options
--help-window-options Show per-window options

[...]

~/ > gnome-terminal --help-window-options
Usage:
gnome-terminal [OPTION...]

Window options; if used before the first --window or --tab argument,
sets the default for all windows:
--show-menubar Turn on the menubar
--hide-menubar Turn off the menubar
--maximize Maximise the window

[...]

I think you want to start it like this:

gnome-terminal --maximize


Nils

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Old 04-16-2010, 01:03 PM
Karl Larsen
 
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On 04/16/2010 06:34 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Basil Chupin<blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>> On 16/04/10 21:27, Liam Proven wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Basil Chupin<blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> I stuffed up my earlier post by asking about Midnight Commander and not
>>>> about the Terminal I normally open it in because the Terminal and mc are
>>>> almost synonymous to me in the way I use both.
>>>>
>>>> My intended question was: how do I make the *TERMINAL* open in full
>>>> screen mode and not as a small window (and then having to enlarge it)?
>>>>
In Gnome it is very simple. In the upper left corner of the
terminal there are three symbols. These are a square, a horizonal line
and a X. Click on the square and your terminal is full screen. If you
click the square on anything it goes full screen, even this message.

73 Karl




>>>> Whatever I have tried so far (click-drag to full page, maximising) is
>>>> ineffective and it always opens as a small window.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone know how to make it behave? (Or is another one of those
>>>> ALT-something thingies..... :-) )
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Leave it the size you want it when you shut down. It should remember
>>> and reopen that size next time.
>>>
>>>
>> As I wrote above, this is the problem- it doesn't "remember" and always
>> opens small.
>>
>> From what I have looked at so far, it is the only program which doesn't
>> behave normally.
>>
> Hmm. I've not tested it recently - I don't generally leave terminals
> open - but IIRC it had to be open *when you shutdown or logged out of
> GNOME*. This is what it did a couple of years back, anyway!
>
>
>>> Or, just press Ctrl-Alt-1 to 6 and use the real text console.
>>>
>>>
>> Which is another thing I have a gripe about - and which is why I don't
>> use my usual ALT-CTRL-F3 in Lucid: the font which comes up is primitive,
>> something I guess to be from the EGA era of 800X640 resolution, and I am
>> used to 1920X1080. Never had this problem until I started using Ubuntu
>> (Lucid). How can the resolution in these terminals (ALT-CTRLF1-F6) be
>> made to be the same as the Desktop setting? Or is this just a temporary
>> glitch in Beta 2?
>>
> It's normal behaviour for Linux. The virtual consoles are in VGA text
> mode, normally. Ubuntu has always done this along with all Linuxes.
>
> You can pass parameters in GRUB to set the console to a particular
> screen mode, but if you set it to the native resolution of the
> monitor, the text will get *very* small. Generally the font remains
> 9x9 pixels or whatever and you just get more columns.
>
> Enjoy the retro feel of the text mode that pretty much the entire
> computing world looked at from the1980s to the 1990s!
>
>
>>>> I don't like water because of the things fish do in it.
>>>>
>>>> W C Fields
>>>>
>>>>
>>> If you're going to claim to quote someone, don't bowdlerise the quote!
>>> That's butchered and it's a travesty. Fields *actually* said: "I never
>>> drink water; fish fuck in it" - which is far more amusing, not to
>>> mention pithier by far.
>>>
>>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> I only ever saw the above quote and didn't know what he actually said.
>> I'll change the wording accordingly :-)
>>
> :¬) You'll probably get banned from some lists for the Naughty Word.
>
>


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Old 04-16-2010, 01:04 PM
Basil Chupin
 
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On 16/04/10 22:48, Nils Kassube wrote:
> Basil Chupin wrote:
>
>> My intended question was: how do I make the *TERMINAL* open in full
>> screen mode and not as a small window (and then having to enlarge
>> it)? Whatever I have tried so far (click-drag to full page,
>> maximising) is ineffective and it always opens as a small window.
>>
> ~/> gnome-terminal --help
> Usage:
> gnome-terminal [OPTION...]
>
> Help Options:
> -h, --help Show help options
> --help-all Show all help options
> --help-terminal Show terminal options
> --help-window-options Show per-window options
>
> [...]
>
> ~/> gnome-terminal --help-window-options
> Usage:
> gnome-terminal [OPTION...]
>
> Window options; if used before the first --window or --tab argument,
> sets the default for all windows:
> --show-menubar Turn on the menubar
> --hide-menubar Turn off the menubar
> --maximize Maximise the window
>
> [...]
>
> I think you want to start it like this:
>
> gnome-terminal --maximize
>

"The man wins a cigar!" Yes, this is what is required to make it open in
full screen.

Many thanks!

BC


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Old 04-16-2010, 01:12 PM
Basil Chupin
 
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On 16/04/10 22:34, Liam Proven wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Basil Chupin<blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>

> It's normal behaviour for Linux. The virtual consoles are in VGA text
> mode, normally. Ubuntu has always done this along with all Linuxes.
>

Nope, not normal mode with all Linuxes. I come from openSUSE and this
does not happen there. The font is equivalent to size 10 of the DeJavu
Sans Mono font. A line of output from, say, ps aux is fully readable
across the screen.

> You can pass parameters in GRUB to set the console to a particular
> screen mode, but if you set it to the native resolution of the
> monitor, the text will get *very* small. Generally the font remains
> 9x9 pixels or whatever and you just get more columns.
>

With this new grub2 setup, where do you set this parameter, any idea?


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Old 04-16-2010, 01:17 PM
Basil Chupin
 
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On 16/04/10 23:03, Karl Larsen wrote:
> On 04/16/2010 06:34 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Basil Chupin<blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 16/04/10 21:27, Liam Proven wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Basil Chupin<blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I stuffed up my earlier post by asking about Midnight Commander and not
>>>>> about the Terminal I normally open it in because the Terminal and mc are
>>>>> almost synonymous to me in the way I use both.
>>>>>
>>>>> My intended question was: how do I make the *TERMINAL* open in full
>>>>> screen mode and not as a small window (and then having to enlarge it)?
>>>>>
>>>>>
> In Gnome it is very simple. In the upper left corner of the
> terminal there are three symbols. These are a square, a horizonal line
> and a X. Click on the square and your terminal is full screen. If you
> click the square on anything it goes full screen, even this message.
>
> 73 Karl
>

Karl, you are making a habit of this :-( . Does it come naturally or did
you have to practice hard to acquire this habit? :-)

Read carefully what I wrote.

(And don't tell me to "Do what I say!", alright? :-) )

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Old 04-16-2010, 01:31 PM
Karl Larsen
 
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On 04/16/2010 07:17 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
> On 16/04/10 23:03, Karl Larsen wrote:
>
>> On 04/16/2010 06:34 AM, Liam Proven wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Basil Chupin<blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 16/04/10 21:27, Liam Proven wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Basil Chupin<blchupin@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I stuffed up my earlier post by asking about Midnight Commander and not
>>>>>> about the Terminal I normally open it in because the Terminal and mc are
>>>>>> almost synonymous to me in the way I use both.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My intended question was: how do I make the *TERMINAL* open in full
>>>>>> screen mode and not as a small window (and then having to enlarge it)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>> In Gnome it is very simple. In the upper left corner of the
>> terminal there are three symbols. These are a square, a horizonal line
>> and a X. Click on the square and your terminal is full screen. If you
>> click the square on anything it goes full screen, even this message.
>>
>> 73 Karl
>>
>>
> Karl, you are making a habit of this :-( . Does it come naturally or did
> you have to practice hard to acquire this habit? :-)
>
> Read carefully what I wrote.
>
> (And don't tell me to "Do what I say!", alright? :-) )
>
> BC
>
>
I told you what you should do. If your not happy it's not my fault.


73 Karl


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Old 04-16-2010, 01:36 PM
Oliver Grawert
 
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hi,
Am Freitag, den 16.04.2010, 23:04 +1000 schrieb Basil Chupin:
> On 16/04/10 22:48, Nils Kassube wrote:
> > Basil Chupin wrote:
> >
> >> My intended question was: how do I make the *TERMINAL* open in full
> >> screen mode
just because i like to nitpick sometimes, fullscreen (vs. maximize) is
what you get when hitting F11
(hit it again to return to normal)

ciao
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Old 04-16-2010, 01:50 PM
Basil Chupin
 
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On 16/04/10 23:31, Karl Larsen wrote:
> On 04/16/2010 07:17 AM, Basil Chupin wrote:
>
>>
>>>>>>> My intended question was: how do I make the *TERMINAL* open in full
>>>>>>> screen mode and not as a small window (and then having to enlarge it)?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>> In Gnome it is very simple. In the upper left corner of the
>>> terminal there are three symbols. These are a square, a horizonal line
>>> and a X. Click on the square and your terminal is full screen. If you
>>> click the square on anything it goes full screen, even this message.
>>>
>>> 73 Karl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Karl, you are making a habit of this :-( . Does it come naturally or did
>> you have to practice hard to acquire this habit? :-)
>>
>> Read carefully what I wrote.
>>
>> (And don't tell me to "Do what I say!", alright? :-) )
>>
>> BC
>>
>>
>>
> I told you what you should do. If your not happy it's not my fault.
>

Karl, I think you should learn proper English and not that American
stuff you are now using :-) .

Here is what I wrote,

QUOTE

My intended question was: how do I make the *TERMINAL* open in full
screen mode and not as a small window (and then having to enlarge it)?

UNQUOTE


What exactly in what I wrote has got you confused? What is it that is not clear as to what I am asking about?

BC

PS This is the end of any replies from me to you on this topic.

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