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Old 01-12-2008, 03:18 AM
David McGlone
 
Default KDE 4.0.0!

On Friday 11 January 2008 4:59:24 pm Paul Lemmons wrote:
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re:KDE 4.0.0!
> From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett@verizon.net>
> To: Kubuntu Help and User Discussions <kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Date: 01/11/2008 02:22 PM
>
> > On Friday 11 January 2008, David McGlone wrote:
> >> On Friday 11 January 2008 10:35:34 am Paul S wrote:
> >>> Eduardo P. Román O. said the following on 01/11/2008 09:58 AM:
> >>>> El Friday 11 January 2008 11:24:37 Paul S escribió:
> >>>>> Terence Simpson said the following on 01/11/2008 06:52 AM:
> >>>>>> Yes, it's finally here and ready to install
> >>>>>> For instructions see <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php>

<snip>

Well I got home a while ago and finally got a chance to look at kde 4, I have
noticed that it is harder to use konq as a file manager, because I cannot
find any way to "show hidden files" in konq. But it's there in dolphin.
Anyone know anything about this?

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Old 01-12-2008, 07:54 AM
"Martin Walshe"
 
Default KDE 4.0.0!

On Jan 12, 2008 4:18 AM, David McGlone <d.mcglone@att.net> wrote:

Well I got home a while ago and finally got a chance to look at kde 4, I have
noticed that it is harder to use konq as a file manager, because I cannot
find any way to "show hidden files" in konq. But it's there in dolphin.

Anyone know anything about this?

I had the same problem as well. Also was unable to create any new folder for some reason.

Marty.

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Old 01-12-2008, 09:12 AM
Joan Tur
 
Default KDE 4.0.0!

Es Divendres, 11 de Gener de 2008, en Terence Simpson va escriure:
| > ~$ sudo apt-get install kde4-core
| > Reading package lists... Done
| > Building dependency tree
| > Reading state information... Done
| > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
| > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
| > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
| > or been moved out of Incoming.
| >
| > Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
| > the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
| > that package should be filed.
| > The following information may help to resolve the situation:
| >
| > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
| > * kde4-core: Depends: kdebase-kde4 (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to
| > be installed
| > * * * * * * *Depends: kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going
| > to be installed
| > * * * * * * *Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going
| > to be installed
| > * * * * * * *Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to be
| > installed
| > * * * * * * *Depends: kdepimlibs5 (>= 4:4.0.0) but it is not going to be
| > installed
| > E: Broken packages
| >
| > *
|
| Just try installing "kdebase-bin-kde4" first, then go for "kde4-core"

Also, he can try using aptitude instead of apt-get; I've found it to solve
problems better than apt-get...

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Old 01-12-2008, 10:40 AM
David McGlone
 
Default KDE 4.0.0!

On Friday 11 January 2008 11:16:18 pm Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> On Friday 11 January 2008 10:18:32 pm David McGlone wrote:
> > On Friday 11 January 2008 4:22:42 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > On Friday 11 January 2008, David McGlone wrote:
> > > >On Friday 11 January 2008 10:35:34 am Paul S wrote:
> > > >> Eduardo P. Román O. said the following on 01/11/2008 09:58 AM:
> > > >> > El Friday 11 January 2008 11:24:37 Paul S escribió:
> > > >> >> Terence Simpson said the following on 01/11/2008 06:52 AM:
> > > >> >>> Yes, it's finally here and ready to install
> > > >> >>> For instructions see
> > > >> >>> <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> It seems to also be in gutsy-backports now, as it has already
> > > >> >> started downloading here.
> > > >>
> > > >> Sorry I mispoke .. backports just had an update to one kde4 lib
> > > >> package to 4.0.0. I'm now following the download instuctions from
> > > >> above.
> > > >>
> > > >> regards,
> > > >
> > > >I just installed KDE 4. First impression: Very nice! The looks of it
> > > > are so much more crisper and the colors are beautiful.
> > >
> > > What is the new email agent called, I see no mention of kmail in the
> > > 4.0 propaganda as yet.
> >
> > I'm still using Kontact. So I'm not sure.
>
> KDEPIM apps did not make the 4.0 release.

it's from my install of 3.5.8 alongside 4.0.



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Old 01-12-2008, 12:48 PM
Fred Schaer
 
Default KDE 4.0.0!

Terence Simpson a écrit*:

Yes, it's finally here and ready to install
For instructions see <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php>

RocK on!

Terence




Hmm, I tried for about 2 hour, and was... disappointed.



- I was damn unable to create a launch icon on the desktop !!! I could
create a standard icon "widget", but I could not change the icon
itself, nor could I give it a command line to launch... Can we put
other things then widgets on the desktop ?? I can't change the Desktop
icone size, and since I only have one, I like it beiing BIG :'(



- tried to run kde4 inside Xephyr/KDE3 by running << (Xephyr
-screen 1280x1024 :1&) && export DISPLAY=:1 &&
/usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde && export DISPLAY=:0 >> :
there, I see the desktop icon I have in KDE3, but I also see a
trash.dektop
file that I don't see in KDE3. weird. File is in ~/Desktop thought...
When I click on it, I have an error about malfomed URL : trash:/ .



- Widgets : why are there such thick borders on those widgets ? That's
horrible, looks like vista. The "get new widgets" button it's always
greyed - is this normal ?



- fonts : I feel reading text is painfull : maybe it's because of the
dirty grey, or because of the fonts, but I feel KDE3's fonts are much
more readable. I'm actually looking at Dolphin both in Kde4 and Kde3 :
i really feel latest is better.



screenshot is here
(http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9292/dolphinkde4vskde3qt3.png)



I think I found a way to enhance this, and it is by forcing fonts DPI
to 96 in "Computer > system setting KDE4 > Fonts". I also changed
those fonts that were at 8px to 9px.



- Kmenu : it looks like it's as unusable as Vista's one. Fortunately,
we
are allowed to keep an old style one. But is is not as polished as the
Kmenu I've got in KDE3 : maybe it's because in the actual one, I've got
this nice theme/picture on the left ? Also, I can't get the icons in
that standard menu as big as in KDE3. This standard Kmenu also displays
artifacts when openning submenus...



This is it for now, I hope all the anoyances we've all already seen are
gone soon in a maintenance release :]

I'll try to report all this at bugs.kde.org, as suggested ...



Best wishes,

Fred



P.S : by the way : I got Kde4 crashing when trying to logout from the
xephyr session



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Old 01-12-2008, 01:10 PM
TED FISCHER
 
Default KDE 4.0.0!

How much space is the KDE 4 upgrades taking? I my root drive is 10GB (SDB1)*I have a stock instelation + firefox and thunderbird and i only have 2.5 GB left. * I may have to resize and borrow some from my Home (SDB2) * Thanks Ted--
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Old 01-12-2008, 01:42 PM
"Michael W. Holdeman"
 
Default KDE 4.0.0!

On Saturday 12 January 2008 06:40:09 am David McGlone wrote:
> On Friday 11 January 2008 11:16:18 pm Michael W. Holdeman wrote:
> > On Friday 11 January 2008 10:18:32 pm David McGlone wrote:
> > > On Friday 11 January 2008 4:22:42 pm Gene Heskett wrote:
> > > > On Friday 11 January 2008, David McGlone wrote:
> > > > >On Friday 11 January 2008 10:35:34 am Paul S wrote:
> > > > >> Eduardo P. Román O. said the following on 01/11/2008 09:58 AM:
> > > > >> > El Friday 11 January 2008 11:24:37 Paul S escribió:
> > > > >> >> Terence Simpson said the following on 01/11/2008 06:52 AM:
> > > > >> >>> Yes, it's finally here and ready to install
> > > > >> >>> For instructions see
> > > > >> >>> <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> It seems to also be in gutsy-backports now, as it has already
> > > > >> >> started downloading here.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Sorry I mispoke .. backports just had an update to one kde4 lib
> > > > >> package to 4.0.0. I'm now following the download instuctions from
> > > > >> above.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >I just installed KDE 4. First impression: Very nice! The looks of it
> > > > > are so much more crisper and the colors are beautiful.
> > > >
> > > > What is the new email agent called, I see no mention of kmail in the
> > > > 4.0 propaganda as yet.
> > >
> > > I'm still using Kontact. So I'm not sure.
> >
> > KDEPIM apps did not make the 4.0 release.
>
> it's from my install of 3.5.8 alongside 4.0.
>
Sorry, I was unclear, I was replying to the original that there werent any 4.0
PIM apps yet. I as well am running the 3.5.8 PIM stuff in 4.0, Though I am
considering trying th 4.0 betas..

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Old 01-12-2008, 02:10 PM
Girard Henri
 
Default KDE 4.0.0!

I guess you need time to jump ??? lol
I am using kde4 for two months now... True there is a lot of nuisances
But the final on kubuntu hardy 64 bist is quiete usable
I am sure in a couple of years kde4 will have pass over kde3
Thanks kde4 teams ... I stoped vista which is really a rubbish compare
to kde4
even with coreduo and 2 Gb RAM



Fred Schaer a écrit :
>
>
> Terence Simpson a écrit :
>> Yes, it's finally here and ready to install
>> For instructions see <http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php>
>>
>> RocK on!
>>
>> Terence
>>
>>
>>
> Hmm, I tried for about 2 hour, and was... disappointed.
>
> - I was damn unable to create a launch icon on the desktop !!! I could
> create a standard icon "widget", but I could not change the icon
> itself, nor could I give it a command line to launch... Can we put
> other things then widgets on the desktop ?? I can't change the Desktop
> icone size, and since I only have one, I like it beiing BIG :'(
>
> - tried to run kde4 inside Xephyr/KDE3 by running << (Xephyr -screen
> 1280x1024 :1&) && export DISPLAY=:1 && /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde &&
> export DISPLAY=:0 >> : there, I see the desktop icon I have in KDE3,
> but I also see a trash.dektop file that I don't see in KDE3. weird.
> File is in ~/Desktop thought... When I click on it, I have an error
> about malfomed URL : trash:/ .
>
> - Widgets : why are there such thick borders on those widgets ? That's
> horrible, looks like vista. The "get new widgets" button it's always
> greyed - is this normal ?
>
> - fonts : I feel reading text is painfull : maybe it's because of the
> dirty grey, or because of the fonts, but I feel KDE3's fonts are much
> more readable. I'm actually looking at Dolphin both in Kde4 and Kde3 :
> i really feel latest is better.
>
> screenshot is here
> <http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9292/dolphinkde4vskde3qt3.png>
> (http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9292/dolphinkde4vskde3qt3.png)
>
> I think I found a way to enhance this, and it is by forcing fonts DPI
> to 96 in "Computer > system setting KDE4 > Fonts". I also changed
> those fonts that were at 8px to 9px.
>
> - Kmenu : it looks like it's as unusable as Vista's one. Fortunately,
> we are allowed to keep an old style one. But is is not as polished as
> the Kmenu I've got in KDE3 : maybe it's because in the actual one,
> I've got this nice theme/picture on the left ? Also, I can't get the
> icons in that standard menu as big as in KDE3. This standard Kmenu
> also displays artifacts when openning submenus...
>
> This is it for now, I hope all the anoyances we've all already seen
> are gone soon in a maintenance release :]
> I'll try to report all this at bugs.kde.org, as suggested ...
>
> Best wishes,
> Fred
>
> P.S : by the way : I got Kde4 crashing when trying to logout from the
> xephyr session


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Old 01-12-2008, 02:37 PM
Edwin Sendjaja
 
Default KDE 4.0.0!

KDE 4.0.0 sooooo buggyyyyyy and complicate!!



1. open AMSN, bang! monitor black!

2. no setting for sound?

3 .keyboard setting default?click change, and only default on the list. not other

4. on K-menu. Systemsetting has no icon

5. some of wigdet cant be moved

6. no setting to change the size of the Tray (e.g. Clock). My clock is too big like i am blind

7. why do i need to login as root, when i go to adept manager? (which i have to solve this using sudo passwd root)

8. my Keyboard doenst work full as in KDE3. (play stop volume button doenst work)





i just want to say, it's not worth it to install it now. better wait for the next release.

I was just wondering, why they've released so buggy edition.



edwin



On Sa, 2008-01-12 at 14:48 +0100, Fred Schaer wrote:






Terence Simpson a écrit*:


Yes, it's finally here and ready to install
For instructions see &lt;http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-4.0.php&gt;

RocK on!

Terence





Hmm, I tried for about 2 hour, and was... disappointed.



- I was damn unable to create a launch icon on the desktop !!! I could create a standard icon "widget", but I could not change the icon itself, nor could I give it a command line to launch... Can we put other things then widgets on the desktop ?? I can't change the Desktop icone size, and since I only have one, I like it beiing BIG :'(



- tried to run kde4 inside Xephyr/KDE3 by running << (Xephyr -screen 1280x1024 :1&) && export DISPLAY=:1 && /usr/lib/kde4/bin/startkde && export DISPLAY=:0 >> : there, I see the desktop icon I have in KDE3, but I also see a trash.dektop file that I don't see in KDE3. weird. File is in ~/Desktop thought... When I click on it, I have an error about malfomed URL : trash:/ .



- Widgets : why are there such thick borders on those widgets ? That's horrible, looks like vista. The "get new widgets" button it's always greyed - is this normal ?



- fonts : I feel reading text is painfull : maybe it's because of the dirty grey, or because of the fonts, but I feel KDE3's fonts are much more readable. I'm actually looking at Dolphin both in Kde4 and Kde3 : i really feel latest is better.



screenshot is here (http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/9292/dolphinkde4vskde3qt3.png)



I think I found a way to enhance this, and it is by forcing fonts DPI to 96 in "Computer > system setting KDE4 > Fonts". I also changed those fonts that were at 8px to 9px.



- Kmenu : it looks like it's as unusable as Vista's one. Fortunately, we are allowed to keep an old style one. But is is not as polished as the Kmenu I've got in KDE3 : maybe it's because in the actual one, I've got this nice theme/picture on the left ? Also, I can't get the icons in that standard menu as big as in KDE3. This standard Kmenu also displays artifacts when openning submenus...



This is it for now, I hope all the anoyances we've all already seen are gone soon in a maintenance release :]

I'll try to report all this at bugs.kde.org, as suggested ...



Best wishes,

Fred



P.S : by the way : I got Kde4 crashing when trying to logout from the xephyr session



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Old 01-12-2008, 03:13 PM
Terence Simpson
 
Default KDE 4.0.0!

Gert Gast wrote:
> But i do get the whole KDE 4.0 lot in Adept notifier on Dapper;
> how do I clean that out??
>
> Gert
>
As I've said, KDE4 is _not_ available on Dapper, only Gutsy and Hardy.

Terence


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