On Thursday 25 February 2010 15:09:47 O. Sinclair wrote:

> Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >>> I agree that wicd is much more reliable. Highly recommended.
> >>
> >> Are you pointing at this app:
> >> http://wicd.sourceforge.net/?
> >
> > Yes. Just install it from apt-get:
> > $ sudo apt-get install wicd
> >
> >>> Installing it does remove knetworkmanager.
> >>
> >> Does this removal happen automatically during the installation of
> >> wicd? If so, does it happen without complications elsewhere in the
> >> system configuration?
> >
> > Yes it happens automatically and without complications.
>
> you might want to add that Wicd does not work with 3g-modems or vpn
> networks. Not that Networkmanager-kde does much for 3G modems either, as
> for VPN I can't tell.

Nor can I as far as VPN is concerned. I'm writing this on a eeepc 1000HE
connected though wifi wpa2 with knetworkmanager. Both eth0 and my 3G modem
work tough broadband capability has worsened in respect to the very good
behaviour it had on NM 0.7 in Intrepid.

> But for "plain old wired and wireless network" I consider it the best

Indeed if one wants or need to use wicd - very nice for fixed IPs - the
Vodafone Driver may be a solution to any added Broadband need.

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>
> Nor can I as far as VPN is concerned. I'm writing this on a eeepc 1000HE
> connected though wifi *wpa2 with knetworkmanager. Both eth0 and my 3G modem
> work tough broadband capability has worsened in respect to the very good
> behaviour it had on NM 0.7 in Intrepid.
>
>> But for "plain old wired and wireless network" I consider it the best
>
> Indeed if one wants or need to use wicd - very nice for fixed IPs - the
> Vodafone Driver may be a solution to any added Broadband need.

I intend to use my netbook (eeepc 1001HA) for 3 kinds of internet
connections: LAN, WIFI, and mobile internet. Mobile internet is
available via a 2,5 G mobile phone, which I can use as a modem via a
cable. That's why I am wondering which option will be most workable in
practice:
maintaining the Knetworkmanager I have now at Kubuntu Karmic netbook
remix? Or the combination of WICD with some driver? Does the 'Vodafone
driver' also work for other mobile phone companies?

Respectfully yours.

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On Saturday 27 February 2010 10:51:52 Bas Roufs wrote:

> I intend to use my netbook (eeepc 1001HA) for 3 kinds of internet
> connections: LAN, WIFI, and mobile internet. Mobile internet is
> available via a 2,5 G mobile phone, which I can use as a modem via a
> cable. That's why I am wondering which option will be most workable in
> practice:

For that very little I have learned from using k/ubuntu in these few years it
seem to me that what works for me best might not work all that well for any
other. That said, you seem to plan a similar usage to mine. And I use the
default application. If it doesn't work for you, you will have to test and see
if other applications work better.

I know this might not be the answer you'd hoped for, but it's the best I can
suggest.

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Hello everybody.

Here is Bas, writing this message at Kubuntu Karmic Netbook remix at
my Eeepc 1001HA - the one I am aiming at ever since the beginning of
this thread.

About one week ago, I wrote:

> > I intend to use my netbook (eeepc 1001HA) for 3 kinds of internet
> > connections: LAN, WIFI, and 2,5 G mobile internet.....

Lanzen replied:
> ..... you seem to plan a similar usage to mine. And I use the
> default application. If it doesn't work for you, you will have to test and see
> if other applications *work better.

So far, I can confirm this point of view. Now, I have been using the
netbook with Kubuntu netbook remix 9.10 for a bit more than one week.
So far, the default internet connection manager Knetwork manager still
seems to run best at this configuration: both LAN and WLAN. After 8
March a permanent mobile connection will be available as well - than I
will test the 2,5 G connection and get back about it at this forum.

Also from other points of view, the test with Karmic @ the Eeepc
1001HA seems to run quite well so far. There are a only a few major
practical questions left. In this message, I share one of them.

Together with the netbook, I bought a small USB "Bluetooth" dongle
from the manufacturer Sitecom. The dongle is a small device aimed at
enabling the netbook to establish a "Bluetooth" connection with my
mobile phone and other "Bluetooth" devices. The name of the dongle
according to it's documentation is "USB micro adapter Bluetooth 2.1
version" from Sitecom. The software delivered with the little device
is only for Windows and Mc OS X (Apple). At the Windows partition, the
relevant drivers have been identified and installed automagically, but
at the Linux partition, this did not yet happen yet. That's why, I
carried out a terminal lsusb test. This delivered the following
results:
bas@Viaconsensus2:~$ lsusb
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 13d3:5108 IMC Networks
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd
Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
bas@Viaconsensus2:~$

Apparently, the dongle shows up in the 3rd line from below - so Linux
does recognise it. In Kubuntu 9.10 netbook remix there is even a
so-called 'KBluetooth manager". However, there is still some missing
link disabling me to establish the Bluetooth connection with my mobile
phone. I need this connection for exchanging data between the mobile
phone and the netbook. Can someone give me a clue how to activate it?
Thanks for replying if possible. Have a good weekend!

Respectfully Yours,

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Hello everybody.

Here is Bas, writing this message at Kubuntu Karmic Netbook remix at
my Eeepc 1001HA - the one I am aiming at ever since the beginning of
this thread.

About one week ago, I wrote:

> > I intend to use my netbook (eeepc 1001HA) for 3 kinds of internet
> > connections: LAN, WIFI, and 2,5 G mobile internet.....

Lanzen replied:
> ..... you seem to plan a similar usage to mine. And I use the
> default application. If it doesn't work for you, you will have to test and see
> if other applications *work better.

So far, I can confirm this point of view. Now, I have been using the
netbook with Kubuntu netbook remix 9.10 for a bit more than one week.
So far, the default internet connection manager Knetwork manager still
seems to run best at this configuration: both LAN and WLAN. After 8
March a permanent mobile connection will be available as well - than I
will test the 2,5 G connection and get back about it at this forum.

Also from other points of view, the test with Karmic @ the Eeepc
1001HA seems to run quite well so far. There are a only a few major
practical questions left. In this message, I share one of them.

Together with the netbook, I bought a small USB "Bluetooth" dongle
from the manufacturer Sitecom. The dongle is a small device aimed at
enabling the netbook to establish a "Bluetooth" connection with my
mobile phone and other "Bluetooth" devices. The name of the dongle
according to it's documentation is "USB micro adapter Bluetooth 2.1
version" from Sitecom. The software delivered with the little device
is only for Windows and Mc OS X (Apple). At the Windows partition, the
relevant drivers have been identified and installed automagically, but
at the Linux partition, this did not yet happen yet. That's why, I
carried out a terminal lsusb test. This delivered the following
results:
bas@Viaconsensus2:~$ lsusb
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 13d3:5108 IMC Networks
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd
Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
bas@Viaconsensus2:~$

Apparently, the dongle shows up in the 3rd line from below - so Linux
does recognise it. In Kubuntu 9.10 netbook remix there is even a
so-called 'KBluetooth manager". However, there is still some missing
link disabling me to establish the Bluetooth connection with my mobile
phone. I need this connection for exchanging data between the mobile
phone and the netbook. Can someone give me a clue how to activate it?
Thanks for replying if possible. Have a good weekend!

Respectfully Yours,

Bas.

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Bas Roufs wrote:
> Hello everybody.
>
> Here is Bas, writing this message at Kubuntu Karmic Netbook remix at
> my Eeepc 1001HA - the one I am aiming at ever since the beginning of
> this thread.
>
> About one week ago, I wrote:
>
* * * SNIP! * * *
>
> Together with the netbook, I bought a small USB "Bluetooth" dongle
> from the manufacturer Sitecom. The dongle is a small device aimed at
> enabling the netbook to establish a "Bluetooth" connection with my
> mobile phone and other "Bluetooth" devices. The name of the dongle
> according to it's documentation is "USB micro adapter Bluetooth 2.1
> version" from Sitecom. The software delivered with the little device
> is only for Windows and Mc OS X (Apple). At the Windows partition, the
> relevant drivers have been identified and installed automagically, but
> at the Linux partition, this did not yet happen yet. That's why, I
> carried out a terminal lsusb test. This delivered the following
> results:
>
>
* * * SNIP! * * *
> Apparently, the dongle shows up in the 3rd line from below - so Linux
> does recognise it. In Kubuntu 9.10 netbook remix there is even a
> so-called 'KBluetooth manager". However, there is still some missing
> link disabling me to establish the Bluetooth connection with my mobile
> phone. I need this connection for exchanging data between the mobile
> phone and the netbook. Can someone give me a clue how to activate it?
> Thanks for replying if possible. Have a good weekend!
>
> Respectfully Yours,
>
> Bas.
>
>
Have you gone to KPackageKit, apt-get, Synaptic, Aptitude, etc.
and looked for "kbluetooth"?


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Hello Tom and Everybody
> Have you gone to KPackageKit, apt-get, Synaptic, Aptitude, etc.
> and looked for "kbluetooth"?

"KBluetooth" is exactly the package I am trying to use ever since
about 2 weeks. However, the dongle is not being mentioned at it's list
of 'Bluetooth Adapters". Also Dolphin does not identify my dongle.
Only the console command "lsusb" delivers a result:
bas@Viaconsensus1:~$ lsusb
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd
Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) .....(snip)
Also the Bluetooth device inside my mobile phone does not recognise
the dongle, when running Kubuntu 9.10 - so I do not manage to transmit
any file from mobile to PC. On the other hand, at a Windows partition
the dongle seems to work out-of-the-box. So, at (K)ubuntu 9.10 there
is apparently still some missing link, which I hope to find out via
this forum.

The test results summarised in the lines above do apply for both my
netbook and desktop.

Thanks, respectfully yours,

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Bas Roufs wrote:
> Hello Tom and Everybody
>
>> Have you gone to KPackageKit, apt-get, Synaptic, Aptitude, etc.
>> and looked for "kbluetooth"?
>>
>
> "KBluetooth" is exactly the package I am trying to use ever since
> about 2 weeks. However, the dongle is not being mentioned at it's list
> of 'Bluetooth Adapters". Also Dolphin does not identify my dongle.
> Only the console command "lsusb" delivers a result:
> bas@Viaconsensus1:~$ lsusb
> Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd
> Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode) .....(snip)
> Also the Bluetooth device inside my mobile phone does not recognise
> the dongle, when running Kubuntu 9.10 - so I do not manage to transmit
> any file from mobile to PC. On the other hand, at a Windows partition
> the dongle seems to work out-of-the-box. So, at (K)ubuntu 9.10 there
> is apparently still some missing link, which I hope to find out via
> this forum.
>
> The test results summarised in the lines above do apply for both my
> netbook and desktop.
>
> Thanks, respectfully yours,
>
> Bas.
>
>
What results, if any, do you get with 'hciconfig'?

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> What results, if any, do you get with 'hciconfig'?

bas@Viaconsensus1:~$ hciconfig
bas@Viaconsensus1:~$ sudo hciconfig
[sudo] password for bas:
bas@Viaconsensus1:~$

In other words: no result at all!

Thx., respectfully yours,

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Bas Roufs wrote:
>> What results, if any, do you get with 'hciconfig'?
>>
>
> bas@Viaconsensus1:~$ hciconfig
> bas@Viaconsensus1:~$ sudo hciconfig
> [sudo] password for bas:
> bas@Viaconsensus1:~$
>
> In other words: no result at all!
>
> Thx., respectfully yours,
>
> Bas.
>
>
Did you:

man hciconfig
or
hciconfig -h

to get the command parameters?

Tom

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