Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> I am ashamed I have to say this, but how do I ping the other computer?
>>
>>
>
> $ ping address.of.other.computer
>
> However, if you do not have a network configured, then the other
> computer doesn't even have an address yet.
>
>
Hi Dotan,
Long time without contact. I pasted your words into the shell. It just
returned to my , steven@Yeshua:~$
What happens if I have a connection? Does the audio make a pinging
sound, do bells ring, flashing lights, pretty girls come on the screen,
what? I am not connected though, am I.
Steven
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03-14-2009, 01:36 AM
Steven Vollom
Crossover cable connection between 2 computers.
Jonas Norlander wrote:
> 2009/3/13 Steven Vollom <stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net>:
>
>> I have a crossover cable. I would like to transfer data from one
>> computer to another using the cable. After the computers are connected,
>> what type of application will assist the transfer. I have been unable
>> to get Samba or fish to work. But I do have a crossover cable and would
>> like to try that. TIA.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>
>
> Fish or sftp would be the easiest. Have you got the network between
> the machines to work?
>
> / Jonas
>
>
That was the reason I wanted to try crossover. My old box has terrible
mount problems. It functions but will not make a fish or Samba
connection. I have need to move a lot of data from the old box. When
finished I will format and fresh install and correct the mounting
problems then. I have about 250gb to transfer, so I need a pretty fast
connection. Do you know if using a crossover is faster than Samba or
fish? If it is, it might be worth the extra trouble. And I am giving
the old computer away after I get the data transferred anyway. Thank
you for the help.
Steven
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03-14-2009, 01:50 AM
Jim
Crossover cable connection between 2 computers.
Steven Vollom wrote:
> I have a crossover cable. I would like to transfer data from one
> computer to another using the cable. After the computers are connected,
> what type of application will assist the transfer. I have been unable
> to get Samba or fish to work. But I do have a crossover cable and would
> like to try that. TIA.
>
> Steven
>
>
Go into Admin > Services and see if sshd is running and be sure you have
a .ssh directory, and in .ssh directory be sure you have a file named
known_hosts and ssh for "fish" will work.
To connect: fish://bob@192.168.1.100 (depending on name and IP
address) of computer you want to connect to.
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03-14-2009, 02:08 AM
Steven Vollom
Crossover cable connection between 2 computers.
Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> I have a crossover cable. I would like to transfer data from one
>> computer to another using the cable. After the computers are connected,
>> what type of application will assist the transfer. I have been unable
>> to get Samba or fish to work. But I do have a crossover cable and would
>> like to try that. TIA.
>>
>>
>
> Steven, you need to physically connect the machines (you have a
> crossover cable, that's enough), then set up a network between the
> machines (DHCP will assign addresses to each machine), then set up a
> server on one machine and a client on the other. You then connect to
> the server with the client, and transfer the files based upon the
> protocol of the server (samba and ftp seem poppular for this purpose,
> but you could use scp over SSH as well).
>
> Does that sound complicated? I think that it is a bit more complicated
> than it has to be. I do not know of any application that will make it
> any easier, but I will start filing RFEs to make this easier. In the
> meantime, those steps are what you need to do. Sorry.
>
> If anyone knows of an application that makes this easier than I've
> described, please mention it. Even non-Linux applications would
> interest me as I might be able to learn something from them and
> implement it on Linux (not the actual application, but the idea).
>
>
It is a good explanation, Dotan, I will have to study it a bit; I am
getting some pretty good help right now, so I am going to relax a bit
and allow people to help me. I usually screw up when I start getting
stressed, and this stuff is really confusing to me. A little easier
each day though. I expect to really understand the process by the time
the problems are resolved. Thank you for your help. I really think
this thing you are doing is a real benifit to the community of Linux
users. I know we all will appreciate the result. To me it is, the
impossible made easy. Perhaps a good title for a tutorial.
Steven
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03-14-2009, 02:12 AM
Norberto Bensa
Crossover cable connection between 2 computers.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 12:36 AM, Steven Vollom
<stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> That was the reason I wanted to try crossover. *My old box has terrible
> mount problems.
A crossover cable won't help you fix your mount points.
Steven, can you please run this commands on your old box:
sudo mkdir /storage1
sudo mkdir /storage2
sudo mount /dev/sda5 /storage1
sudo mount /dev/sda7 /storage2
and then, on the new computer open dolphin and type this in the address bar:
sftp://192.168.0.100/
Now, go into /storage1 and /storage2. Your files *should* be there.
Just copy them to whatever place you like in your new computer.
Regards,
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Hi all,
bc folds (LF/CR) right after the 68th char or so, when working with
large numbers. is there a way to avoid the folding from within bc? (I
know I can use c=$(echo $a |bc -l) ; echo $c |sed 's/ //g' as a work
around) - but if this could be done from within bc, that wud be
nice..!
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03-14-2009, 02:19 AM
Steven Vollom
Crossover cable connection between 2 computers.
Norberto Bensa wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Steven Vollom
> <stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>> I have a crossover cable. I would like to transfer data from one
>> computer to another using the cable.
>>
>
> Why!!!???
>
> You have a perfectly running network with the router you configured
> with my -and others- help. So why do you want to go the hard way?
>
>
We have come to sort of an impass. We haven't been able to make a
functioning connection either by using fish or Samba. The closest we
have come is just now I have one computer showing detail from both
computers for the first time. What it shows is not particular pleasing,
but at least they are communicating. I had already posted regarding
crossover anyway, before this breakthrough.
Additionally, I am interested in knowing the crossover technology. One
thing I have not received an answer for is this, which of these
processes transfers data faster. For now I am only going to use this
capability one time. I have about 250gb of data to move and a person
anxiously waiting in the wings to get my old computer.
Once the data is moved, I will be giving the computer to him. I won't
need the ability again until I fix the on/off switch on my laptop. Then
it will again be useful. You seem to know all the ways to transfer the
data using a network. I would also like to know the different ways. It
is no more complicated than that. If it is an abuse of the Lists time,
I would rather not do it, but if not, anyone who would like to know
these things too, can peek over my shoulder and experience the learning
process with me.
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03-14-2009, 02:32 AM
Steven Vollom
Crossover cable connection between 2 computers.
Jim wrote:
> Steven Vollom wrote:
>
>> I have a crossover cable. I would like to transfer data from one
>> computer to another using the cable. After the computers are connected,
>> what type of application will assist the transfer. I have been unable
>> to get Samba or fish to work. But I do have a crossover cable and would
>> like to try that. TIA.
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>
>>
> Go into Admin > Services and see if sshd is running
Yes, I didn't even know it existed. It is a new term for me.
> and be sure you have
> a .ssh directory,
I looked for .ssh in my /home directory and did not find it. Where do I
look for known_hosts and ssh? While waiting for a response, I will look
in my /home/steven directory.
> and in .ssh directory be sure you have a file named
> known_hosts and ssh for "fish" will work.
>
I just make the folders known_hosts and ssh but install them where?
/home/steven? /home/?
> To connect: fish://bob@192.168.1.100 (depending on name and IP
> address) of computer you want to connect to.
>
I want to connect from my old computer to my new computer. I have about
250gb of not backed up data to transfer.
I notice you have your username included like an email address. I did
not do that when I tried to get fish to work, I did this:
fish://192.168.0.100/storage1. Perhaps that is my mistake. I have no
knowledge to draw from, this is a new experience. Thanks for the help.
I need to take a break for a few minutes. I will return to your
instruction in a bit.
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03-14-2009, 02:58 AM
Norberto Bensa
Crossover cable connection between 2 computers.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:19 AM, Steven Vollom
<stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> Additionally, I am interested in knowing the crossover technology.
A crossover cable is just a normal Ethernet cable with pairs 1-3 and
2-6 crossed.
> One
> thing I have not received an answer for is this, which of these
> processes transfers data faster.
Both cables give you the same speed, unless your nics are 1Gbps and
your router/switch is only 10/100Mbps.
Regards,
Norberto
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03-14-2009, 03:02 AM
Norberto Bensa
Crossover cable connection between 2 computers.
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 1:32 AM, Steven Vollom
<stevenvollom@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> I notice you have your username included like an email address. *I did
> not do that when I tried to get fish to work, I did this:
> fish://192.168.0.100/storage1. *Perhaps that is my mistake. *I have no
Nope. Your users are the same in both computers (steven) and so you
can omit "user@" in the connection.
I noticed you want to connect from the old box to your new one. The
instructions I sent are the other way around. Connect to your old box
from the new one. Read them carefully.
Regards,
Norberto
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03-14-2009, 03:08 AM
Dotan Cohen
Crossover cable connection between 2 computers.
> Additionally, I am interested in knowing the crossover technology.
There is no crossfire technology. The changing of the wire's location
is an artifact, not a technology. It's still ethernet over cat5. Those
are two terms that you can google if you want to know more about the
technology.
>*One
> thing I have not received an answer for is this, which of these
> processes transfers data faster.
Can't say. In theory, eliminating the router may speed things up. In
practice not so.
>*For now I am only going to use this
> capability one time. *I have about 250gb of data to move and a person
> anxiously waiting in the wings to get my old computer.
>
So just put the second hard drive in the case and be done with it.
Mount it manually so as not to kill your already fragile fstab file.
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