re grub error 17
anyone know of why when loading the grub that comes with error 17
* when I tried to load up 2 extra Hdd from my modile hdd racks(80gb bkup xp pro+ and my old copy of Me 40gb) in the Grub line said grub loading next line error 17, what does that mean, also when I done a clone copy of the current bkupman 80gb the one I use with dual to to Kubuntu, it clonned ok thru dos using Ghost 3 but when I attached as main drive to check that it work worked, when booting started to do the grub loading but said grub grub grub grub grub etc forever so I presume the clone didnt work, so is there a clone app I can use when in K to clone mt xp pro dual boot hdd to a backup of it, cause I can use paragon disk copy 8 to clone the K drives when in xp pro??????? * ray Find your ideal job with SEEK Time for change? -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users |
re grub error 17
You can clone the full HD in Linux using dd:
* connect source and dest HDs * boot from a LiveCD (Kubuntu ones are fine) * from a terminal, type: $ dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb ... where /dev/sda is the device associated with your source HD and /dev/sdb to the destination. Quadruple-check that you know which is which as there is no way back!!! HTH Hervé 2009/1/17 Ray Burke <rayburke30@hotmail.com> anyone know of why when loading the grub that comes with error 17 * when I tried to load up 2 extra Hdd from my modile hdd racks(80gb bkup xp pro+ and my old copy of Me 40gb) in the Grub line said grub loading next line error 17, what does that mean, also when I done a clone copy of the current bkupman 80gb the one I use with dual to to Kubuntu, it clonned ok thru dos using Ghost 3 but when I attached as main drive to check that it work worked, when booting started to do the grub loading but said grub grub grub grub grub etc forever so I presume the clone didnt work, so is there a clone app I can use when in K to clone mt xp pro dual boot hdd to a backup of it, cause I can use paragon disk copy 8 to clone the K drives when in xp pro??????? * ray Find your ideal job with SEEK Time for change? -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users |
re grub error 17
Herve in xp pro,
* How can I check which are correct when in Kubuntu, and also I cant load up my bkup drive to my win xp pro as with my dual boot I get error 17 as I have my backup loaded in a mobile rack(may be via external usb drive????) * thru xp pro I have drive c 80gb win xp pro drive d 40gb linux(k) drive e 80gb bkup xp pro drive L 40 gb bkup linux(K) both bkup's are in modbile racks that I can switch on/off when booting up but now that I have grub with my dual boot whichever o/s I try to boot to grub says error 17, but when switched off the mobile racks its boot ok into either win xp pro/Kubuntu thru the grub,so then cant clone my 80gb xp pro, but the linux will clone thru paragon drive copy 8 whhen in xp pro????? ray Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2009 17:00:45 +0100 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: re grub error 17 CC: kubuntu-users-request@lists.ubuntu.com; kubuntu-users-owner@lists.ubuntu.com You can clone the full HD in Linux using dd: * connect source and dest HDs * boot from a LiveCD (Kubuntu ones are fine) * from a terminal, type: $ dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb ... where /dev/sda is the device associated with your source HD and /dev/sdb to the destination. Quadruple-check that you know which is which as there is no way back!!! HTH Hervé 2009/1/17 Ray Burke <rayburke30@hotmail.com> anyone know of why when loading the grub that comes with error 17 * when I tried to load up 2 extra Hdd from my modile hdd racks(80gb bkup xp pro+ and my old copy of Me 40gb) in the Grub line said grub loading next line error 17, what does that mean, also when I done a clone copy of the current bkupman 80gb the one I use with dual to to Kubuntu, it clonned ok thru dos using Ghost 3 but when I attached as main drive to check that it work worked, when booting started to do the grub loading but said grub grub grub grub grub etc forever so I presume the clone didnt work, so is there a clone app I can use when in K to clone mt xp pro dual boot hdd to a backup of it, cause I can use paragon disk copy 8 to clone the K drives when in xp pro??????? * ray Find your ideal job with SEEK Time for change? -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Find great deals on eBay Net yourself a bargain -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users |
re grub error 17
Hello Ray,
Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail. I - Booting with the backup disks on If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs: * one on the main hard drive (the one you want) * at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't) and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS). II - Error 17 The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this: $ df /boot which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet): /dev/sda8************ 52506748** 3838592* 46000968** 8% / I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help. Hervé -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users |
re grub error 17
Herve,
* I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!! when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro?? * do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive????? * ray Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hello Ray, Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail. I - Booting with the backup disks on If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs: * one on the main hard drive (the one you want) * at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't) and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS). II - Error 17 The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this: $ df /boot which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet): /dev/sda8************ 52506748** 3838592* 46000968** 8% / I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help. Hervé Download free emoticons today! Holiday cheer from Messenger. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users |
re grub error 17
Hi Ray,
2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30@hotmail.com> Herve, * I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!!No worries :-) when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro??I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-) * do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive?????Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry again for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools though I know they exist. *To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the backup; that's what dd does. For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe /dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so: $ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb This means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of) /dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table. You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination >= source). For example: $ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4 Good luck, Hervé * ray Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hello Ray, Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail. I - Booting with the backup disks on If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs: * one on the main hard drive (the one you want) * at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't) and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS). II - Error 17 The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this: $ df /boot which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet): /dev/sda8************ 52506748** 3838592* 46000968** 8% / I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help. Hervé Download free emoticons today! Holiday cheer from Messenger. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users |
re grub error 17
Herve,
* Cant I do this $ df /boot in the terminal window*in 'K' * also can the $ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb be done with k loaded as the system is not using xp pro drive and the external usb drive these two addresses would be dev/sda1 for xp pro and dev/sdh1 for the external usb drive, there fore the command in the terminal window would read $ dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/dev/sdh1 ???????????? * as I dont understand why I would load up the live cd for K?????? * ray Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:16:51 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hi Ray, 2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30@hotmail.com> Herve, * I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!! No worries :-) when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro?? I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-) * do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive????? Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry again for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools though I know they exist. * To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the backup; that's what dd does. For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe /dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so: $ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb This means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of) /dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table. You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination >= source). For example: $ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4 Good luck, Hervé * ray Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hello Ray, Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail. I - Booting with the backup disks on If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs: * one on the main hard drive (the one you want) * at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't) and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS). II - Error 17 The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this: $ df /boot which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet): /dev/sda8************ 52506748** 3838592* 46000968** 8% / I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help. Hervé Download free emoticons today! Holiday cheer from Messenger. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Download free emoticons today! Holiday cheer from Messenger. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users |
re grub error 17
Herve I am in K,
I booted up with the k live cd, and once up then turned on the external usb disk drive and did a $df -h* and a $df /boot see below ************************************************** ******************** *rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h Filesystem*********** Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************* 18G* 7.6G* 9.0G* 46% / varrun*************** 474M* 160K* 474M** 1% /var/run varlock************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /var/lock udev***************** 474M** 88K* 474M** 1% /dev devshm*************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /dev/shm lrm****************** 474M** 38M* 437M** 8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile /dev/sdb2************* 19G* 6.2G** 13G* 34% /home /dev/sda1************* 75G** 39G** 36G* 52% /media/BKUP MAN /dev/sdh1************* 75G** 37G** 38G* 50% /media/BKUP MAN-1 rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot Filesystem********** 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************ 1 rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h Filesystem*********** Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************* 18G* 7.6G* 9.0G* 46% / varrun*************** 474M* 160K* 474M** 1% /var/run varlock************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /var/lock udev***************** 474M** 88K* 474M** 1% /dev devshm*************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /dev/shm lrm****************** 474M** 38M* 437M** 8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile /dev/sdb2************* 19G* 6.2G** 13G* 34% /home /dev/sda1************* 75G** 39G** 36G* 52% /media/BKUP MAN /dev/sdh1************* 75G** 37G** 38G* 50% /media/BKUP MAN-1 rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot Filesystem********** 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************ 18034492** 7909904** 9397488* 46% / rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ 8034492** 7909904** 9397488* 46% / rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ ************************************************** *********************************** so as you see the main xp pro is sda1 and the external usb is sdh1 and only have one boot on sdb1????? so await your advise ray Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:16:51 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hi Ray, 2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30@hotmail.com> Herve, * I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!!No worries :-) when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro??I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-) * do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive?????Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry again for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools though I know they exist. *To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the backup; that's what dd does. For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe /dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so: $ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb This means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of) /dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table. You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination >= source). For example: $ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4 Good luck, Hervé * ray Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hello Ray, Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail. I - Booting with the backup disks on If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs: * one on the main hard drive (the one you want) * at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't) and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS). II - Error 17 The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this: $ df /boot which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet): /dev/sda8************ 52506748** 3838592* 46000968** 8% / I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help. Hervé Download free emoticons today! Holiday cheer from Messenger. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Find your ideal job with SEEK Time for change? -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users |
re grub error 17
Hello Ray,
I think I see the problem. Can you confirm that: * /dev/sda is your Windows disk, with one partition: /dev/sda1 (called BKUP_MAN ???) * /dev/sdb is your Kubuntu disk, with several partitions * /dev/sdh is your backup disk, with one partition: /dev/sdh1 (called BKUP_MAN-1) * you do not have a backup of Kubuntu As I see it: * /dev/sdh (the full disk) is the backup of /dev/sda, including the boot record, where grub is. * grub looks for its startup files on /dev/sdb * when you boot with the backup disk connected, the BIOS boots the backup disk, with the broken grub Or: * the BIOS sees the backup disk (when present at boot) as the second hard disk, and GRUB therefore looks for its files in the wrong place (/dev/sdh instead of /dev/sdb). One thing is sure: you'd be better off with grub on /dev/sdb, so all Linux-related stuff remains together. You'd then have to tell your BIOS to boot from your Linux disk instead of the Windows one. IOW, tell you BIOS to boot from the slave disk on the primary controller. But this requires a bit of fidling with grub on the command line, which is not for the faint of heart! Otherwise, tell your BIOS to not probe for USB disks if that is possible. Of course I could be wrong! Hervé 2009/1/22 Ray Burke <rayburke30@hotmail.com> Herve I am in K, I booted up with the k live cd, and once up then turned on the external usb disk drive and did a $df -h* and a $df /boot see below ************************************************** ******************** *rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h Filesystem*********** Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************* 18G* 7.6G* 9.0G* 46% / varrun*************** 474M* 160K* 474M** 1% /var/run varlock************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /var/lock udev***************** 474M** 88K* 474M** 1% /dev devshm*************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /dev/shm lrm****************** 474M** 38M* 437M** 8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile /dev/sdb2************* 19G* 6.2G** 13G* 34% /home /dev/sda1************* 75G** 39G** 36G* 52% /media/BKUP MAN /dev/sdh1************* 75G** 37G** 38G* 50% /media/BKUP MAN-1 rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot Filesystem********** 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************ 1 rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h Filesystem*********** Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************* 18G* 7.6G* 9.0G* 46% / varrun*************** 474M* 160K* 474M** 1% /var/run varlock************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /var/lock udev***************** 474M** 88K* 474M** 1% /dev devshm*************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /dev/shm lrm****************** 474M** 38M* 437M** 8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile /dev/sdb2************* 19G* 6.2G** 13G* 34% /home /dev/sda1************* 75G** 39G** 36G* 52% /media/BKUP MAN /dev/sdh1************* 75G** 37G** 38G* 50% /media/BKUP MAN-1 rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot Filesystem********** 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************ 18034492** 7909904** 9397488* 46% / rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ 8034492** 7909904** 9397488* 46% / rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ ************************************************** *********************************** so as you see the main xp pro is sda1 and the external usb is sdh1 and only have one boot on sdb1????? so await your advise ray Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:16:51 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hi Ray, 2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30@hotmail.com> Herve, * I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!!No worries :-) when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro??I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-) * do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive?????Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry again for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools though I know they exist. *To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the backup; that's what dd does. For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe /dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so: $ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb This means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of) /dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table. You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination >= source). For example: $ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4 Good luck, Hervé * ray Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hello Ray, Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail. I - Booting with the backup disks on If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs: * one on the main hard drive (the one you want) * at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't) and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS). II - Error 17 The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this: $ df /boot which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet): /dev/sda8************ 52506748** 3838592* 46000968** 8% / I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help. Hervé Download free emoticons today! Holiday cheer from Messenger. -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users Find your ideal job with SEEK Time for change? -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users -- kubuntu-users mailing list kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-users |
re grub error 17
Herve I am in xp pro,
* Yes that is right what you say below, and I already have a bkup of kubuntu done when in xp pro I clonned thru paragon drive copy 8 as Ghost did not work????? * PS the main xp pro is on dev/sda1 the backup xp pro is on dev/sdh1 both have only one partition * hope this helps to find a resolution to my problem ray Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2009 12:47:37 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hello Ray, I think I see the problem. Can you confirm that: * /dev/sda is your Windows disk, with one partition: /dev/sda1 (called BKUP_MAN ???) * /dev/sdb is your Kubuntu disk, with several partitions * /dev/sdh is your backup disk, with one partition: /dev/sdh1 (called BKUP_MAN-1) * you do not have a backup of Kubuntu As I see it: * /dev/sdh (the full disk) is the backup of /dev/sda, including the boot record, where grub is. * grub looks for its startup files on /dev/sdb * when you boot with the backup disk connected, the BIOS boots the backup disk, with the broken grub Or: * the BIOS sees the backup disk (when present at boot) as the second hard disk, and GRUB therefore looks for its files in the wrong place (/dev/sdh instead of /dev/sdb). One thing is sure: you'd be better off with grub on /dev/sdb, so all Linux-related stuff remains together. You'd then have to tell your BIOS to boot from your Linux disk instead of the Windows one. IOW, tell you BIOS to boot from the slave disk on the primary controller. But this requires a bit of fidling with grub on the command line, which is not for the faint of heart! Otherwise, tell your BIOS to not probe for USB disks if that is possible. Of course I could be wrong! Hervé 2009/1/22 Ray Burke <rayburke30@hotmail.com> Herve I am in K, I booted up with the k live cd, and once up then turned on the external usb disk drive and did a $df -h* and a $df /boot see below ************************************************** ******************** *rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h Filesystem*********** Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************* 18G* 7.6G* 9.0G* 46% / varrun*************** 474M* 160K* 474M** 1% /var/run varlock************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /var/lock udev***************** 474M** 88K* 474M** 1% /dev devshm*************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /dev/shm lrm****************** 474M** 38M* 437M** 8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile /dev/sdb2************* 19G* 6.2G** 13G* 34% /home /dev/sda1************* 75G** 39G** 36G* 52% /media/BKUP MAN /dev/sdh1************* 75G** 37G** 38G* 50% /media/BKUP MAN-1 rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot Filesystem********** 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************ 1 rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df -h Filesystem*********** Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************* 18G* 7.6G* 9.0G* 46% / varrun*************** 474M* 160K* 474M** 1% /var/run varlock************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /var/lock udev***************** 474M** 88K* 474M** 1% /dev devshm*************** 474M**** 0* 474M** 0% /dev/shm lrm****************** 474M** 38M* 437M** 8% /lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/volatile /dev/sdb2************* 19G* 6.2G** 13G* 34% /home /dev/sda1************* 75G** 39G** 36G* 52% /media/BKUP MAN /dev/sdh1************* 75G** 37G** 38G* 50% /media/BKUP MAN-1 rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ df /boot Filesystem********** 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/sdb1************ 18034492** 7909904** 9397488* 46% / rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ 8034492** 7909904** 9397488* 46% / rayburke@rayburke-desktop:~$ ************************************************** *********************************** so as you see the main xp pro is sda1 and the external usb is sdh1 and only have one boot on sdb1????? so await your advise ray Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 21:16:51 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hi Ray, 2009/1/21 Ray Burke <rayburke30@hotmail.com> Herve, * I am sorry as kost of my questions on the forum go astray!!!!! No worries :-) when I boot from the backup disk it just continually says gub, but this was a clonned copy thru ghost 3 of the main xp pro?? I s'pose ghost did not just copy the disk... I actually don't know this program. I use dd which is not very beautiful being command line and all that, but does exactly what's written on the tin :-) * do I do this $ df /boot when in K and with just my xp pro drive and linux drive????? Sorry, you'd do this from the command line (Konsole) in Kubuntu. Sorry again for my use of command line, I actually don't know the graphical tools though I know they exist. * To copy the disks, I'd boot from a LiveCD of Kubuntu, so none of the hard disks are being used, then I'd make a bit-for-bit copy of my disks to the backup; that's what dd does. For example, when you start from the LiveCD, your main hard disk maybe /dev/sdc and your backup disk /dev/sdb, do you'd copy like so: $ dd if=/dev/sdc of=/dev/sdb This means copy from input 'file' (if) /dev/sdc to output 'file' (of) /dev/sdb, and it preserves the boot record and partition table. You can also copy partitions the same way (after checking that destination >= source). For example: $ dd if=/dev/sda3 of=/dev/sdb4 Good luck, Hervé * ray Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:04:04 +0100 Subject: Re: re grub error 17 From: Herve@lucidia.net To: kubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Hello Ray, Re-posting to the list in case it might help others... was sent to personal e-mail. I - Booting with the backup disks on If your system boots ok with the backups off and does not when they're on, then my guess is that you have two grubs: * one on the main hard drive (the one you want) * at least one on the backups (the one[s] you don't) and that your system boots by default from the backup. This, as you probably know, can be changed in the BIOS settings, under the boot section (its location depends on your BIOS). II - Error 17 The reason why grub gives error 17 is due to the difference between the partition layout in the backup disk[s] and the original disk. For example, Linux's boot partition maybe on partition /dev/sda3 on the original disk and /dev/sda1 on the backup disk[s]. To find out your boot partition, type this: $ df /boot which gives me (/boot is not a separate partition on my laptop - yet): /dev/sda8************ 52506748** 3838592* 46000968** 8% / I hope this can help a bit. Do not hesitate to ask again if I can be of help. Hervé Download free emoticons today! 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