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Eric 08-04-2008 10:09 PM

KDE 4.1 won't start
 
I just upgraded from 6.06 LTS to 8.04.1. I installed KDE 4.1. When I try
to start it the screen says KDE 4.1 and then it shows graphically the
different processes are shown loading. It gets all the way to the "K"
and then it goes back to the login screen.

Any ideas?


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Bruce Marshall 08-04-2008 10:56 PM

KDE 4.1 won't start
 
On Monday 04 August 2008, Eric wrote:
> I just upgraded from 6.06 LTS to 8.04.1. I installed KDE 4.1. When I try
> to start it the screen says KDE 4.1 and then it shows graphically the
> different processes are shown loading. It gets all the way to the "K"
> and then it goes back to the login screen.
>
> Any ideas?

This can sometime happen of KDE can't write to the home directory... or some
other spot that is necessary to write to.

Look through your log files or try starting kdm from a CLI. /etc/init.d/kdm
start

and look for error messages.


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"p.daniels" 08-05-2008 01:06 AM

KDE 4.1 won't start
 
On Monday August 4 2008 17:09:44 Eric wrote:

> I just upgraded from 6.06 LTS to 8.04.1. I installed KDE 4.1. When I try

> to start it the screen says KDE 4.1 and then it shows graphically the

> different processes are shown loading. It gets all the way to the "K"

> and then it goes back to the login screen.

>

> Any ideas?



That happened to me once. Check to make sure you have permissions on ~/.ICEauthority



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Eric 08-06-2008 11:33 AM

KDE 4.1 won't start
 
Bruce Marshall wrote:
> On Monday 04 August 2008, Eric wrote:
>> I just upgraded from 6.06 LTS to 8.04.1. I installed KDE 4.1. When I try
>> to start it the screen says KDE 4.1 and then it shows graphically the
>> different processes are shown loading. It gets all the way to the "K"
>> and then it goes back to the login screen.
>>
>> Any ideas?
>
> This can sometime happen of KDE can't write to the home directory... or some
> other spot that is necessary to write to.
>
> Look through your log files or try starting kdm from a CLI. /etc/init.d/kdm
> start
>
> and look for error messages.

I'm not sure I understand. I booted up in text mode and I issued the
command kdm. I got no response. No error message. Nothing changed in any
way visibly. Is that the way you were suggesting I issue this command?

Eric

>
>


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David McGlone 08-06-2008 11:46 AM

KDE 4.1 won't start
 
On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:33:39 am Eric wrote:
> Bruce Marshall wrote:
> > On Monday 04 August 2008, Eric wrote:
> >> I just upgraded from 6.06 LTS to 8.04.1. I installed KDE 4.1. When I try
> >> to start it the screen says KDE 4.1 and then it shows graphically the
> >> different processes are shown loading. It gets all the way to the "K"
> >> and then it goes back to the login screen.
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >
> > This can sometime happen of KDE can't write to the home directory... or
> > some other spot that is necessary to write to.
> >
> > Look through your log files or try starting kdm from a CLI.
> > /etc/init.d/kdm start
> >
> > and look for error messages.
>
> I'm not sure I understand. I booted up in text mode and I issued the
> command kdm. I got no response. No error message. Nothing changed in any
> way visibly. Is that the way you were suggesting I issue this command?

I haven't been following this thread very closely, but I wonder if anyone has
suggested booting into text mode and renaming his .kde folder and then use
the command startx

If kde starts then some configuration in .kde is messed up, if not he probably
has a problem with his XOrg config.

David M.



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Eric 08-06-2008 12:28 PM

KDE 4.1 won't start
 
David McGlone wrote:
> On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:33:39 am Eric wrote:
>> Bruce Marshall wrote:
>>> On Monday 04 August 2008, Eric wrote:
>>>> I just upgraded from 6.06 LTS to 8.04.1. I installed KDE 4.1. When I try
>>>> to start it the screen says KDE 4.1 and then it shows graphically the
>>>> different processes are shown loading. It gets all the way to the "K"
>>>> and then it goes back to the login screen.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>> This can sometime happen of KDE can't write to the home directory... or
>>> some other spot that is necessary to write to.
>>>
>>> Look through your log files or try starting kdm from a CLI.
>>> /etc/init.d/kdm start
>>>
>>> and look for error messages.
>> I'm not sure I understand. I booted up in text mode and I issued the
>> command kdm. I got no response. No error message. Nothing changed in any
>> way visibly. Is that the way you were suggesting I issue this command?
>
> I haven't been following this thread very closely, but I wonder if anyone has

The entire thread except for one message is written above.

> suggested booting into text mode and renaming his .kde folder and then use
> the command startx
>
> If kde starts then some configuration in .kde is messed up, if not he probably
> has a problem with his XOrg config.

I'm not sure what the default KDE is that comes with 8.04.1 but that's
installed and it loads. What will happen to it if I rename the .kde folder?

Thanks for your help.

Eric


>
> David M.
>
>
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Bruce Marshall 08-06-2008 03:04 PM

KDE 4.1 won't start
 
On Wednesday 06 August 2008, Eric wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand. I booted up in text mode and I issued the
> command kdm. I got no response. No error message. Nothing changed in any
> way visibly. Is that the way you were suggesting I issue this command?

You probably had an instance of KDM already running. Make sure kdm isn't
running before issuing the command.

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Bruce Marshall 08-06-2008 03:10 PM

KDE 4.1 won't start
 
On Wednesday 06 August 2008, Eric wrote:
> I'm not sure what the default KDE is that comes with 8.04.1 but that's
> installed and it loads. What will happen to it if I rename the .kde folder?
>
> Thanks for your help.

If you rename it, KDE will create a new one with default settings. Not a bad
thing in my view and sometimes the only way to resolve an issue like that.

And when you get good at it, you can copy things out of the renamed directory
(like email addresses) into the new .kde directory.

But have you checked the permissions on your home directory? When you
installed 8.01, it might have given your user a new UID and you would need to
change the ownership of files.

All of this is a major reason why I never do an update in place. Always
install fresh to new partitions and setting the old release partitions aside.

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David McGlone 08-06-2008 04:36 PM

KDE 4.1 won't start
 
On Wednesday 06 August 2008 8:28:24 am Eric wrote:
> David McGlone wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 August 2008 7:33:39 am Eric wrote:
> >> Bruce Marshall wrote:
> >>> On Monday 04 August 2008, Eric wrote:
> >>>> I just upgraded from 6.06 LTS to 8.04.1. I installed KDE 4.1. When I
> >>>> try to start it the screen says KDE 4.1 and then it shows graphically
> >>>> the different processes are shown loading. It gets all the way to the
> >>>> "K" and then it goes back to the login screen.
> >>>>
> >>>> Any ideas?
> >>>
> >>> This can sometime happen of KDE can't write to the home directory...
> >>> or some other spot that is necessary to write to.
> >>>
> >>> Look through your log files or try starting kdm from a CLI.
> >>> /etc/init.d/kdm start
> >>>
> >>> and look for error messages.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure I understand. I booted up in text mode and I issued the
> >> command kdm. I got no response. No error message. Nothing changed in any
> >> way visibly. Is that the way you were suggesting I issue this command?
> >
> > I haven't been following this thread very closely, but I wonder if anyone
> > has
>
> The entire thread except for one message is written above.
>
> > suggested booting into text mode and renaming his .kde folder and then
> > use the command startx
> >
> > If kde starts then some configuration in .kde is messed up, if not he
> > probably has a problem with his XOrg config.
>
> I'm not sure what the default KDE is that comes with 8.04.1 but that's
> installed and it loads. What will happen to it if I rename the .kde folder?

what will happen is when you log back into KDE, it will automatically create
another .kde folder with all default settings. And if it works, this will
show that there is a problem within your .kde folder and not with your X
configuration.

just boot to a console and type

mv .kde .kde.bak

then type:

startx

X will probably now start.

Also when you log back out of X it will take you back to the console until you
actually reboot your machine, so don't panic if you log out and it takes you
back to the console just reboot and from then on X will automatically start.

David M.

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