nothing changed.
but i think the problem is with the wlan button. (It's not an
Fn-Fsomething key-combination, it's a button next to the power button)
When i typed lshal -m ,and pressed the button, it didn't even detect
it. :s I have no idea how to solve this problem

On 05/12/2007, Derek Broughton <news@pointerstop.ca> wrote:
> deguz wrote:
>
> > auto lo
> > iface lo inet loopback
> > address 127.0.0.1
> > netmask 255.0.0.0
> >
> >
> > iface wlan0 inet dhcp
>
> OK - that guarantees that NetworkManager will ignore it...
>
> Remove the wlan0 line, and then see what happens.
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deguz wrote:

> nothing changed.
> but i think the problem is with the wlan button. (It's not an
> Fn-Fsomething key-combination, it's a button next to the power button)

I know that. But the fact that "iwconfig" shows wlan0 (and with a power
setting) argued against that, imo. otoh, the fact that you don't have the
blue light argues for it :-)

> When i typed lshal -m ,and pressed the button, it didn't even detect
> it. :s I have no idea how to solve this problem

And on the third hand (I'm quickly running out of them...), I just did that,
turned off the switch on my wifi, and turned it back on, and lshal didn't
show anything either. The only thing it saw was a change to battery level.

So what does "lshal -u /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_14e4_4311 --long"
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found various reports on the problem...

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/26075

http://lwn.net/Articles/150579/

http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu.laptop.testing/2006-01/msg00004.html

http://marc.info/?l=fedora-list&m=113315667221843&w=1

imho must be a kernel thing...



deguz wrote:

nothing changed.
but i think the problem is with the wlan button. (It's not an
Fn-Fsomething key-combination, it's a button next to the power button)
When i typed lshal -m ,and pressed the button, it didn't even detect
it. :s I have no idea how to solve this problem

On 05/12/2007, Derek Broughton <news@pointerstop.ca> wrote:


deguz wrote:



auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
address 127.0.0.1
netmask 255.0.0.0


iface wlan0 inet dhcp


OK - that guarantees that NetworkManager will ignore it...

Remove the wlan0 line, and then see what happens.
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Would you guys PLEASE stop top-posting.

Sotiris Athanasiou wrote:

> found various reports on the problem...
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/26075
> http://lwn.net/Articles/150579/
> http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu.laptop.testing/2006-01/msg00004.html
> http://marc.info/?l=fedora-list&m=113315667221843&w=1
> imho must be a kernel thing...

It seems very unlikely, since I have the same hardware, and it works
flawlessly. My best guess so far is that it's his version of ndiswrapper.
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Sotiris Athanasiou wrote:

> found various reports on the problem...

Actually, no you didn't.

> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/26075

- that's apparently different hardware (at least in the original bug
report - some of the "me too" posters may actually have had the Broadcom
wifi - but nobody said so).

> http://lwn.net/Articles/150579/

- not only different hardware, but specifically about enabling a software
control method

> http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu.laptop.testing/2006-01/msg00004.html

- different hardware, and in fact he has a workaround

> http://marc.info/?l=fedora-list&m=113315667221843&w=1

Same problem as your second link, but different hardware - again, there's no
way of knowing if it actually refers to the same wireless NIC.

> imho must be a kernel thing...

Could well be, but there's no way of knowing so far. Imo, the only thing
that came out of those links that shows some promise is the person who
stated that he'd disabled his wireless under Windows, and couldn't then
_re-enable_ it in Linux. So Deguz, if you dual boot in Windows, go to
Windows and make sure it's functioning there, then reboot in Linux.
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udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_14e4_4311'
info.bus = 'pci' (string)
info.linux.driver = 'ndiswrapper' (string)
info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_2841' (string)
info.product = 'BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI' (string)
info.subsystem = 'pci' (string)
info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_14e4_4311' (string)
info.vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' (string)
linux.hotplug_type = 2 (0x2) (int)
linux.subsystem = 'pci' (string)
linux.sysfs_path =
'/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:10:00.0' (string)
pci.device_class = 2 (0x2) (int)
pci.device_protocol = 0 (0x0) (int)
pci.device_subclass = 128 (0x80) (int)
pci.linux.sysfs_path =
'/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:10:00.0' (string)
pci.product = 'BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI' (string)
pci.product_id = 17169 (0x4311) (int)
pci.subsys_product_id = 4981 (0x1375) (int)
pci.subsys_vendor = 'Hewlett-Packard Company' (string)
pci.subsys_vendor_id = 4156 (0x103c) (int)
pci.vendor = 'Broadcom Corporation' (string)
pci.vendor_id = 5348 (0x14e4) (int)


On 05/12/2007, Derek Broughton <news@pointerstop.ca> wrote:
> deguz wrote:
>
> > nothing changed.
> > but i think the problem is with the wlan button. (It's not an
> > Fn-Fsomething key-combination, it's a button next to the power button)
>
> I know that. But the fact that "iwconfig" shows wlan0 (and with a power
> setting) argued against that, imo. otoh, the fact that you don't have the
> blue light argues for it :-)
>
> > When i typed lshal -m ,and pressed the button, it didn't even detect
> > it. :s I have no idea how to solve this problem
>
> And on the third hand (I'm quickly running out of them...), I just did that,
> turned off the switch on my wifi, and turned it back on, and lshal didn't
> show anything either. The only thing it saw was a change to battery level.
>
> So what does "lshal -u /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_14e4_4311 --long"
> show?
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deguz wrote:

> udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_14e4_4311'
> info.bus = 'pci' (string)

OK, I asked nicely, so now I'm just going to tell you how it is.

This is a mail list, which means you ask a question, someone responds,
someone else responds to them. That's a conversation, and conversations
work top down. STOP top posting if you want help. I won't respond to any
more top posts.

Respond inline and trim to what you need for context.

Everything shows your hardware as operational - except actual network
traffic and the little blue light.

If you right-click on the Network Manager icon in the system tray, does it
show any wireless devices? Under "Options", does it show wireless as
Enabled and Online?

What happens if you try "sudo ifup wlan0", "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
and "sudo dhclient wlan0"?
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i only have linux on this laptop right now, do you think in this case
i should install windows too?
alright, i'm gonna degrade ndiswrapper to 1.45, and try again

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On 05/12/2007, Derek Broughton <news@pointerstop.ca> wrote:
> deguz wrote:
>
> > udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_14e4_4311'
> > info.bus = 'pci' (string)
>
> OK, I asked nicely, so now I'm just going to tell you how it is.
>
> This is a mail list, which means you ask a question, someone responds,
> someone else responds to them. That's a conversation, and conversations
> work top down. STOP top posting if you want help. I won't respond to any
> more top posts.
>
> Respond inline and trim to what you need for context.

Alright, i'm sorry for this. (I hope this kind of writing is ok, and i
didn't misunderstand you. (I'm sorry, but my english is poor, so maybe
i misunderstood you)

>
> Everything shows your hardware as operational - except actual network
> traffic and the little blue light.
>
> If you right-click on the Network Manager icon in the system tray, does it
> show any wireless devices? Under "Options", does it show wireless as
> Enabled and Online?

Yes it does show a wireless device. And in Options, it shows the wlan
card as enabled.

>
> What happens if you try "sudo ifup wlan0", "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
> and "sudo dhclient wlan0"?
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sudo ifup wlan0
Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.

After sudo ifconfig wlan0 up doesn't happen anything.

sudo dhclient wlan0
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.5
Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/

Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:1a:73:9b:84:8c
Sending on LPF/wlan0/00:1a:73:9b:84:8c
Sending on Socket/fallback
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 8
DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 5
No DHCPOFFERS received.
No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.

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deguz wrote:

> On 05/12/2007, Derek Broughton <news@pointerstop.ca> wrote:
>>
>> Respond inline and trim to what you need for context.
>
> Alright, i'm sorry for this. (I hope this kind of writing is ok, and i
> didn't misunderstand you. (I'm sorry, but my english is poor, so maybe
> i misunderstood you)

Your English is fine, and thanks for not top-posting :-)
>>
>> If you right-click on the Network Manager icon in the system tray, does
>> it
>> show any wireless devices? Under "Options", does it show wireless as
>> Enabled and Online?
>
> Yes it does show a wireless device. And in Options, it shows the wlan
> card as enabled.

I am running out of ideas - it really should be working.

>> What happens if you try "sudo ifup wlan0", "sudo ifconfig wlan0 up"
>> and "sudo dhclient wlan0"?
>
> sudo ifup wlan0
> Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.

yeah, that's fine - it really _shouldn't_ do anything, because we removed
wlan0 from /etc/network/interfaces.

>
> After sudo ifconfig wlan0 up doesn't happen anything.

Right.
>
> sudo dhclient wlan0
> Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client V3.0.5
> Copyright 2004-2006 Internet Systems Consortium.
> All rights reserved.
> For info, please visit http://www.isc.org/sw/dhcp/
>
> Listening on LPF/wlan0/00:1a:73:9b:84:8c
> Sending on LPF/wlan0/00:1a:73:9b:84:8c
> Sending on Socket/fallback
> DHCPDISCOVER on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3
...
> No DHCPOFFERS received.
> No working leases in persistent database - sleeping.

Trust me, this is almost as infuriating for me as it is for you!

If you right click on Network Manager, and choose "Connect to other wireless
network", and then enter the essid of your router, what shows in your
syslog from NetworkManager (grep NetworkManager /var/log/syslog)
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