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Old 07-13-2012, 01:34 PM
Dale Trombley
 
Default KDE Telepathy 0.4 - Call for Testing

I've been using it for some time now and really like it.

On Jul 12, 2012 6:35 PM, "Aleix Pol" <aleixpol@kde.org> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> wrote:

> For the release of Kubuntu 12.10 we are thinking about switching to a

> different instant messaging framework named Telepathy.

>

> With KDE Telepathy 0.4 [1] we now have a viable testing candiate for

> you to try on your existing 12.04 installation [2].

>

> Please take it for a test drive and report back any findings and thoughts.

>

> [1] http://dot.kde.org/2012/06/11/new-kde-telepathy-version-features-audio-and-video-calls

> [2] http://www.kubuntu.org/ktp-0.4

>

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FWIW, I've been using it (master version) for a while already and it

works great



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Old 07-15-2012, 06:25 PM
Clay Weber
 
Default KDE Telepathy 0.4 - Call for Testing

On Thursday, July 12, 2012 09:00:52 PM Harald Sitter wrote:
> For the release of Kubuntu 12.10 we are thinking about switching to a
> different instant messaging framework named Telepathy.
>
> With KDE Telepathy 0.4 [1] we now have a viable testing candiate for
> you to try on your existing 12.04 installation [2].
>
> Please take it for a test drive and report back any findings and thoughts.
>
> [1]
> http://dot.kde.org/2012/06/11/new-kde-telepathy-version-features-audio-and-
> video-calls [2] http://www.kubuntu.org/ktp-0.4
>
> HS

Having used KTP for a whiole now, I do like it overall. I mostly use it for
Yahoo so have not yet tried out video calls.

I am not sure if it does so when installed, but I recall having to add the
Presence widget to the tray. The tray icons could be better somehow maybe. I
know the history feature is new, so I assume this will see some improvements.
Overall the IM client works very well. It has been relaible for me, does not
have the random Yahoo disconnects I used to see in Kopete. KTP does lack some
features as compared to Kopete, but I personally do not use many of them.

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Old 07-15-2012, 06:25 PM
Clay Weber
 
Default KDE Telepathy 0.4 - Call for Testing

On Thursday, July 12, 2012 09:00:52 PM Harald Sitter wrote:
> For the release of Kubuntu 12.10 we are thinking about switching to a
> different instant messaging framework named Telepathy.
>
> With KDE Telepathy 0.4 [1] we now have a viable testing candiate for
> you to try on your existing 12.04 installation [2].
>
> Please take it for a test drive and report back any findings and thoughts.
>
> [1]
> http://dot.kde.org/2012/06/11/new-kde-telepathy-version-features-audio-and-
> video-calls [2] http://www.kubuntu.org/ktp-0.4
>
> HS

Having used KTP for a whiole now, I do like it overall. I mostly use it for
Yahoo so have not yet tried out video calls.

I am not sure if it does so when installed, but I recall having to add the
Presence widget to the tray. The tray icons could be better somehow maybe. I
know the history feature is new, so I assume this will see some improvements.
Overall the IM client works very well. It has been relaible for me, does not
have the random Yahoo disconnects I used to see in Kopete. KTP does lack some
features as compared to Kopete, but I personally do not use many of them.

Clay

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Old 07-15-2012, 06:31 PM
Harald Sitter
 
Default KDE Telepathy 0.4 - Call for Testing

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Clay Weber <clay@claydoh.com> wrote:
> I am not sure if it does so when installed, but I recall having to add the
> Presence widget to the tray. The tray icons could be better somehow maybe.

Ultimately we'd get message-indicator support in which case it would
show up in the m-i plasmoid, failing to get that I suppose adding the
presence plasmoid to the default setup is the way to go IMHO.

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Old 07-16-2012, 01:08 AM
David Edmundson
 
Default KDE Telepathy 0.4 - Call for Testing

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Harald Sitter <sitter.harald@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Clay Weber <clay@claydoh.com> wrote:

> I am not sure if it does so when installed, but I recall having to add the

> Presence widget to the tray. The tray icons could be better somehow maybe.



Ultimately we'd get message-indicator support in which case it would

show up in the m-i plasmoid, failing to get that I suppose adding the

presence plasmoid to the default setup is the way to go IMHO.
*The presence plasmoid allows you to control whether you're online, away, etc. *Which (AFAIK) isn't built into m-i. It also makes using KTp a lot easier to use, as it acts as a sort of "dock" for the contact list. If you do add it to the default setup, I would add it into the system tray, rather than in the panel.*

If the plasmoid isn't running the contact list gives a warning when you first close saying "you're closing the contact, you will still remain online and have nothing to show you this. Add the plasmoid!". *(the wording is slightly different, I can't remember what it is exactly).*

tl;dr: Adding it to the default would be really useful.
The outstanding issue with message-indicator (https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=303473) is going to need to be patched downstream. With my KTp hat on, it's your message indicator duplicating stuff we do - and we can't remove it as not every distro uses m-i, so there's nothing we can do.
Last time it was discussed we did have a plan on how this patch could work, I think it's in the ML thread linked to on the bug report.
Dave


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Old 07-16-2012, 01:29 AM
Harald Sitter
 
Default KDE Telepathy 0.4 - Call for Testing

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:08 AM, David Edmundson
<david@davidedmundson.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Harald Sitter <sitter.harald@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Clay Weber <clay@claydoh.com> wrote:
>> > I am not sure if it does so when installed, but I recall having to add
>> > the
>> > Presence widget to the tray. The tray icons could be better somehow
>> > maybe.
>>
>> Ultimately we'd get message-indicator support in which case it would
>> show up in the m-i plasmoid, failing to get that I suppose adding the
>> presence plasmoid to the default setup is the way to go IMHO.

>
> The presence plasmoid allows you to control whether you're online, away,
> etc. Which (AFAIK) isn't built into m-i. It also makes using KTp a lot
> easier to use, as it acts as a sort of "dock" for the contact list.

That sound just like what m-i does. If you have an m-i app running and
simply close the window but not quit the application you can open it
via the m-i (which is what we do with Kopete right now).

> If you
> do add it to the default setup, I would add it into the system tray, rather
> than in the panel.

+ That is what I meant

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Old 07-16-2012, 01:35 AM
Aleix Pol
 
Default KDE Telepathy 0.4 - Call for Testing

On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:08 AM, David Edmundson
> <david@davidedmundson.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Harald Sitter <sitter.harald@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Clay Weber <clay@claydoh.com> wrote:
>>> > I am not sure if it does so when installed, but I recall having to add
>>> > the
>>> > Presence widget to the tray. The tray icons could be better somehow
>>> > maybe.
>>>
>>> Ultimately we'd get message-indicator support in which case it would
>>> show up in the m-i plasmoid, failing to get that I suppose adding the
>>> presence plasmoid to the default setup is the way to go IMHO.
>
>>
>> The presence plasmoid allows you to control whether you're online, away,
>> etc. Which (AFAIK) isn't built into m-i. It also makes using KTp a lot
>> easier to use, as it acts as a sort of "dock" for the contact list.
>
> That sound just like what m-i does. If you have an m-i app running and
> simply close the window but not quit the application you can open it
> via the m-i (which is what we do with Kopete right now).
>
>> If you
>> do add it to the default setup, I would add it into the system tray, rather
>> than in the panel.
>
> + That is what I meant
>
> HS
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The problem with m-i is that it doesn't help to track the status. Also
adds a 1-click step.
Additionally it renders useless the context menu on the system tray.

I had never used it before starting to use kubuntu. I see the value
that it's grouping applications and the notificatons, but I don't love
it. Adding such a usability abstraction for just two programs (irc and
IM) is not worth the trouble, IMHO.

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Old 07-16-2012, 02:03 AM
Scott Kitterman
 
Default KDE Telepathy 0.4 - Call for Testing

On Monday, July 16, 2012 03:35:32 AM Aleix Pol wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:29 AM, Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com>
wrote:
> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 3:08 AM, David Edmundson
> >
> > <david@davidedmundson.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Harald Sitter <sitter.harald@gmail.com>
> >>
> >> wrote:
> >>> On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 8:25 PM, Clay Weber <clay@claydoh.com> wrote:
> >>> > I am not sure if it does so when installed, but I recall having to add
> >>> > the
> >>> > Presence widget to the tray. The tray icons could be better somehow
> >>> > maybe.
> >>>
> >>> Ultimately we'd get message-indicator support in which case it would
> >>> show up in the m-i plasmoid, failing to get that I suppose adding the
> >>> presence plasmoid to the default setup is the way to go IMHO.
> >>
> >> The presence plasmoid allows you to control whether you're online, away,
> >> etc. Which (AFAIK) isn't built into m-i. It also makes using KTp a lot
> >> easier to use, as it acts as a sort of "dock" for the contact list.
> >
> > That sound just like what m-i does. If you have an m-i app running and
> > simply close the window but not quit the application you can open it
> > via the m-i (which is what we do with Kopete right now).
> >
> >> If you
> >> do add it to the default setup, I would add it into the system tray,
> >> rather
> >> than in the panel.
> >
> > + That is what I meant
> >
> > HS
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> The problem with m-i is that it doesn't help to track the status. Also
> adds a 1-click step.
> Additionally it renders useless the context menu on the system tray.
>
> I had never used it before starting to use kubuntu. I see the value
> that it's grouping applications and the notificatons, but I don't love
> it. Adding such a usability abstraction for just two programs (irc and
> IM) is not worth the trouble, IMHO.

This is not at all discoverable, but if shit-click on the M-I icon in the
systray it'll take you straight to the most recent highlight.

Scott K

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