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Old 05-22-2011, 03:49 PM
Robert Simmons
 
Default KTorrent/libktorrent

Are there plans to update KTorrent and libktorrent to 4.1.1? The
version in maverick and natty, 4.0.5, has a crash that leaves a zombie
process that prevents KTorrent from being opened again which then
requires a reboot to use KTorrent again. Please see
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267853

This bug does not appear in 4.1 and the current version is 4.1.1

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Old 05-22-2011, 08:18 PM
Harald Sitter
 
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On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are there plans to update KTorrent and libktorrent to 4.1.1? *The
> version in maverick and natty, 4.0.5, has a crash that leaves a zombie
> process that prevents KTorrent from being opened again which then
> requires a reboot to use KTorrent again. *Please see
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267853
>
> This bug does not appear in 4.1 and the current version is 4.1.1

Stable release update policies generally disallow that, as there is
grave regression potential from introducing new feature baring
versions into a stable release using the regular updates repository.

It could however go into the backports repository, once 4.1 lands in oneiric.

The probably most sensible option would probably be to get an as small
as possible patch that fixes this particular issue, so that this
individual bug fix could be deployed via updates to every user.

regards,
Harald

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Old 05-22-2011, 10:54 PM
Robert Simmons
 
Default KTorrent/libktorrent

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Are there plans to update KTorrent and libktorrent to 4.1.1? *The
>> version in maverick and natty, 4.0.5, has a crash that leaves a zombie
>> process that prevents KTorrent from being opened again which then
>> requires a reboot to use KTorrent again. *Please see
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267853
>>
>> This bug does not appear in 4.1 and the current version is 4.1.1
>
> Stable release update policies generally disallow that, as there is
> grave regression potential from introducing new feature baring
> versions into a stable release using the regular updates repository.
>
> It could however go into the backports repository, once 4.1 lands in oneiric.
>
> The probably most sensible option would probably be to get an as small
> as possible patch that fixes this particular issue, so that this
> individual bug fix could be deployed via updates to every user.

Well, I had submitted a bug report to bugs.kde.org about the problem,
and the suggestion was to upgrade to 4.1 because the bug was not
reproducible in that version, which I did and it fixed the problem. I
now have to keep the built-from-source version in /usr/local

How does something land in oneiric? Is the optimal thing for it to
drop into debian first?

And, once something is there in the dev branch, how does it move into backports?

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Old 05-23-2011, 06:34 AM
Harald Sitter
 
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On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Are there plans to update KTorrent and libktorrent to 4.1.1? *The
>>> version in maverick and natty, 4.0.5, has a crash that leaves a zombie
>>> process that prevents KTorrent from being opened again which then
>>> requires a reboot to use KTorrent again. *Please see
>>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267853
>>>
>>> This bug does not appear in 4.1 and the current version is 4.1.1
>>
>> Stable release update policies generally disallow that, as there is
>> grave regression potential from introducing new feature baring
>> versions into a stable release using the regular updates repository.
>>
>> It could however go into the backports repository, once 4.1 lands in oneiric.
>>
>> The probably most sensible option would probably be to get an as small
>> as possible patch that fixes this particular issue, so that this
>> individual bug fix could be deployed via updates to every user.
>
> Well, I had submitted a bug report to bugs.kde.org about the problem,
> and the suggestion was to upgrade to 4.1 because the bug was not
> reproducible in that version, which I did and it fixed the problem. *I
> now have to keep the built-from-source version in /usr/local
>
> How does something land in oneiric? *Is the optimal thing for it to
> drop into debian first?

Yes, then we either have to merge it or it will be pulled in
automatically (depending on whether we carry ubuntu changes to the
debian package, of which I am not sure for ktorrent).

> And, once something is there in the dev branch, how does it move into backports?

Someone follows [1] through

[1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Backport Process

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Old 05-23-2011, 11:37 PM
Robert Simmons
 
Default KTorrent/libktorrent

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 2:34 AM, Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:54 AM, Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Harald Sitter <apachelogger@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>>> On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 5:49 PM, Robert Simmons <rsimmons0@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Are there plans to update KTorrent and libktorrent to 4.1.1? *The
>>>> version in maverick and natty, 4.0.5, has a crash that leaves a zombie
>>>> process that prevents KTorrent from being opened again which then
>>>> requires a reboot to use KTorrent again. *Please see
>>>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=267853
>>>>
>>>> This bug does not appear in 4.1 and the current version is 4.1.1
>>>
>>> Stable release update policies generally disallow that, as there is
>>> grave regression potential from introducing new feature baring
>>> versions into a stable release using the regular updates repository.
>>>
>>> It could however go into the backports repository, once 4.1 lands in oneiric.
>>>
>>> The probably most sensible option would probably be to get an as small
>>> as possible patch that fixes this particular issue, so that this
>>> individual bug fix could be deployed via updates to every user.
>>
>> Well, I had submitted a bug report to bugs.kde.org about the problem,
>> and the suggestion was to upgrade to 4.1 because the bug was not
>> reproducible in that version, which I did and it fixed the problem. *I
>> now have to keep the built-from-source version in /usr/local
>>
>> How does something land in oneiric? *Is the optimal thing for it to
>> drop into debian first?
>
> Yes, then we either have to merge it or it will be pulled in
> automatically (depending on whether we carry ubuntu changes to the
> debian package, of which I am not sure for ktorrent).
>
>> And, once something is there in the dev branch, how does it move into backports?
>
> Someone follows [1] through
>
> [1] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports#Backport Process
>

Sounds good. I've contacted the debian maintainer to volunteer my
help in testing the package. Right now it is in experimental. How
far does it need to progress (wheezy or sid) before it can be merged
with ubuntu?

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