colibri notifications
 

Am Montag 01 November 2010, 18:55:43 schrieb Roman Shtylman:

> The basic question is, do we, or do we not, enable colibri
> notifications by default? Do we have user feedback about this? Should
> we do more to make it clear you can enable colibri style
> notifications?

Kubuntu does not use Colibri but Atayana (or whatever it's called) notifications. Kubuntu
patches a few bits of kdebase for this. Colibri is based on the same code but works
without patching. Colibri is not a KDE project (yet) but I think it should be moved into
KDE Extragear. KDE SC should, IMO, ship with a KCM that allows selecting different
notification systems and Kubuntu should move away from Atayana towards Colibri.

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On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Markus Slopianka <markus.s@kdemail.net> wrote:
>
> Am Montag 01 November 2010, 18:55:43 schrieb Roman Shtylman:
>
> > The basic question is, do we, or do we not, enable colibri
> > notifications by default? Do we have user feedback about this? Should
> > we do more to make it clear you can enable colibri style
> > notifications?
>
> Kubuntu does not use Colibri but Atayana (or whatever it's called) notifications. Kubuntu
> patches a few bits of kdebase for this. Colibri is based on the same code but works
> without patching. Colibri is not a KDE project (yet) but I think it should be moved into
> KDE Extragear. KDE SC should, IMO, ship with a KCM that allows selecting different
> notification systems and Kubuntu should move away from Atayana towards Colibri.

The Colibri package's description says:
provides an alternative to KDE 4 Plasma notifications colibri
notifications look lighter and are completely passive: they do not
provide any buttons.

From this, I think that Colibri is the Qt implementation of the
Ayatana notifications which got rid of buttons on Ubuntu's GNOME
Desktop. I'm pretty sure Kubuntu uses KNotify since the notifications
on a clean install *do* have buttons.

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On Monday, November 01, 2010 03:46:29 pm Markus Slopianka wrote:
> Kubuntu does not use Colibri but Atayana (or whatever it's called)
> notifications.

This is wrong. We provided an Ayatana option in Karmic, but not since.
Collabri is a similar implementation to the Ayatana design, but a separate
package rather than integrated into the workspace.

The only default notification system Kubuntu has ever shipped is the one built
by KDE.

Scott K

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For what its worth, the only time I would use the buttons is for Pidgin when*receiving*a new message, and they don't seem to work for me (if this have since been fixed, sorry!)
As far as the file copy progress, it doesn't really make sense when I watch it 0/1 and spin animation. *Seems a step backwards from a good old progress bar/percentage. *I'd rather see a lot of the notifications go back to basics (dialogs, baloons, etc), or go without interaction until the interaction works. *Glossy widgets as a notification area feel bloated to the eye, especially when comparing them to Ubuntu notifications (which is similar in a lot of ways to Outlook email notifications)

I know my argument is based on Pidgin -- a GTK application -- but I don't think a write-up is needed for why Pidgin is much better to use than Kopete (or is a write-up due?)

My 2 cents. *Constructive and appreciative. :)
-Tres

On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 5:57 PM, Scott Kitterman <ubuntu@kitterman.com> wrote:

On Monday, November 01, 2010 03:46:29 pm Markus Slopianka wrote:

> Kubuntu does not use Colibri but Atayana (or whatever it's called)

> notifications.



This is wrong. *We provided an Ayatana option in Karmic, but not since.

Collabri is a similar implementation to the Ayatana design, but a separate

package rather than integrated into the workspace.



The only default notification system Kubuntu has ever shipped is the one built

by KDE.



Scott K



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If you decide to move away from upstream (which is totally your call) remember
that you will loss support from us, for example BlueDevil doesn't support
notification system without actions, an user using colibri won't get
notification such "Device XX wants a PiN", or "Authorize device YYY". Well, the
user will get them but with no actions :p

In trunk (KDE 4.6) notifications has been again improved, until the point that
I'm confortable with them. If you're still not, please contact with the plasma
team and try to work together, since that is what kubuntu has been doing for
month/years and is something we're happy with (and you too as far as I can see
in some blog posts).

Just my 0.2c

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