On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 4:19 PM, Craig Brashear <rcbpage621@netscape.com> wrote:
> This was a clean install to a separate HD, it was not an upgrade.
> I only used my existing /home drive as home.

...which, although "supported," presents its own shade of hysterical raisins...


> I don't think it's a kernel specific issue, just the way it was configured,
> and built. I have the same kernel version on a Slackware partition and
> the sound
> and permissions all work just fine (Not Pulse) and a clean vanilla KDE
> install.

The same kernel version in Slackware *without* PulseAudio implies a
sound driver and/or hardware bug.


> Not being a sound driver guy, all I can do is complain and file a bug
> report, if I

Where is said bug report?

Best,
-Dan

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Daniel,



Said bug report will be forthcoming next week, as when the distro

started kludging permissions in my system and home folders

I pulled the drive, lest it wreck my production system.

I will tinker with it some more this weekend.



Submitting an incomplete bug report would just confuse the issue.



I am still not convinced that the timing of this swap to pulseaudio
is

in Kubuntus best interest. Due to the radical changes going on

in the KDE upstream in their switch to a Qt base, and the changes

going on the library structure, it makes bug

chasing that much more difficult, akin to finding

one individual bee in a swarm.



As iterated before, I have nothing against pulse, it works

exceptionally well in GNOME, that is why they have a GNOME

base for Ubuntustudio, not a Kubuntu studio.



Cheers



Craig





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On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Craig Brashear <rcbpage621@netscape.com> wrote:
> I am still not convinced that the timing of this swap to pulseaudio is
> in Kubuntus best interest. Due to the radical changes going on
> in the KDE upstream in their switch to a Qt base, and the changes
> going on the library structure, it makes bug
> chasing that much more difficult, akin to finding
> one individual bee in a swarm.

Eh, we've gone through this before with GNOME. It's no worse or
better, just more of the same, although this time around it'll be less
of a hassle given there are three times as many people (i.e., 3)
working on its infrastructure in Ubuntu.

Also, there is no "right" time to introduce a fairly significant
infrastructure change. On the other hand, we certainly don't want to
do so during an LTS.


> As iterated before, I have nothing against pulse, it works
> exceptionally well in GNOME, that is why they have a GNOME
> base for Ubuntustudio, not a Kubuntu studio.

No, that is not why we (yes, I was part of forming that derivative,
too, along with Xubuntu) chose to base Ubuntu Studio on GNOME.
Originally we debated (upon pulse's introduction into the desktop)
whether to try and remove the pulse dependency but ultimately decided
that we could document and use pasuspender for the cases that really
couldn't work alongside pulse. The only reason there is no shipped
Kubuntu base for Studio is because no one has expressed interest *and*
stepped up to spin an image.

Best,
-Dan

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