Kapti, an experimentation on package installation/removal UI
Aurelien, I visited your page and wanted to offer some questions/feedback:
If you have a back and forward button, why not simply use a web browser?What does this application do that apt-url doesn't already do? I frequently use the 10.04 Ubuntu package manager and find it very useful 90% of the time (the interface is notoriously clunky, but it's icons, thumbnails, descriptions, visual feedback are pretty solid).* Is there an initiative to leverage similar behavior? When will a package manager start "graying-out" debug tools and library dependencies so people like my mother aren't bombarded with "amarok-dbg", "kamefu-data" when she just wants "amarok"? I like the idea and I'd like to see more, but at the end of the day I only need one package manager, and in kde, it's konsole. -Tres 2010/6/1 Aurélien Gâteau <aurelien.gateau@canonical.com> Hi, Since I have lots of free time :), I played this weekend with an idea of mine: a simple tool to install/remove packages. The tool is named Kapti, this wiki page will let you learn more about it and even install it: http://gitorious.org/kapti/pages/Home What makes it a bit different than other tools is that it's a web-like UI: you click links to install/remove packages or view the detailed information of a package. This is quite handy because for example the detailed information presents the suggests/recommends list as links, so you can easily learn more about a suggested package, click its "Install" link, then click the "Back" button to return to the previous package you were reading about. I do not intend to develop this as a competitor to KPackageKit and I already talked with Daniel Nicoletti, the KPackageKit maintainer (who is CC to this mail), about this. I see Kapti as an experiment on the UI, something which maybe could be integrated in KPackageKit later (but there is nothing precise right now). I am interested in your feedback, especially regarding the fact that it behaves a bit like a web browser. Aurélien DISCLAIMER: I created Kapti in my (ever shrinking) free time, Canonical is not involved in it. -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- - Tres.Finocchiaro@gmail.com -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel |
Kapti, an experimentation on package installation/removal UI
This is great.* There is no more reason not to like apt-get/aptitude for those GUI obsessed.* Keep it up.* Thank you so much for sharing as it's inspired me.
2010/6/1 Aurélien Gâteau <aurelien.gateau@canonical.com> Hi, Since I have lots of free time :), I played this weekend with an idea of mine: a simple tool to install/remove packages. The tool is named Kapti, this wiki page will let you learn more about it and even install it: http://gitorious.org/kapti/pages/Home What makes it a bit different than other tools is that it's a web-like UI: you click links to install/remove packages or view the detailed information of a package. This is quite handy because for example the detailed information presents the suggests/recommends list as links, so you can easily learn more about a suggested package, click its "Install" link, then click the "Back" button to return to the previous package you were reading about. I do not intend to develop this as a competitor to KPackageKit and I already talked with Daniel Nicoletti, the KPackageKit maintainer (who is CC to this mail), about this. I see Kapti as an experiment on the UI, something which maybe could be integrated in KPackageKit later (but there is nothing precise right now). I am interested in your feedback, especially regarding the fact that it behaves a bit like a web browser. Aurélien DISCLAIMER: I created Kapti in my (ever shrinking) free time, Canonical is not involved in it. -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel |
Kapti, an experimentation on package installation/removal UI
Package manager are just that.* Maybe you should give your mom an Application manager.* Why is she even be doing sys admin in the first place when all she wanted is to listen to music. :)
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Tres Finocchiaro <fatbuttlarry@gmail.com> wrote: Aurelien, I visited your page and wanted to offer some questions/feedback: If you have a back and forward button, why not simply use a web browser? What does this application do that apt-url doesn't already do? I frequently use the 10.04 Ubuntu package manager and find it very useful 90% of the time (the interface is notoriously clunky, but it's icons, thumbnails, descriptions, visual feedback are pretty solid).* Is there an initiative to leverage similar behavior? When will a package manager start "graying-out" debug tools and library dependencies so people like my mother aren't bombarded with "amarok-dbg", "kamefu-data" when she just wants "amarok"? I like the idea and I'd like to see more, but at the end of the day I only need one package manager, and in kde, it's konsole. -Tres 2010/6/1 Aurélien Gâteau <aurelien.gateau@canonical.com> Hi, Since I have lots of free time :), I played this weekend with an idea of mine: a simple tool to install/remove packages. The tool is named Kapti, this wiki page will let you learn more about it and even install it: http://gitorious.org/kapti/pages/Home What makes it a bit different than other tools is that it's a web-like UI: you click links to install/remove packages or view the detailed information of a package. This is quite handy because for example the detailed information presents the suggests/recommends list as links, so you can easily learn more about a suggested package, click its "Install" link, then click the "Back" button to return to the previous package you were reading about. I do not intend to develop this as a competitor to KPackageKit and I already talked with Daniel Nicoletti, the KPackageKit maintainer (who is CC to this mail), about this. I see Kapti as an experiment on the UI, something which maybe could be integrated in KPackageKit later (but there is nothing precise right now). I am interested in your feedback, especially regarding the fact that it behaves a bit like a web browser. Aurélien DISCLAIMER: I created Kapti in my (ever shrinking) free time, Canonical is not involved in it. -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- - Tres.Finocchiaro@gmail.com -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel |
Kapti, an experimentation on package installation/removal UI
> Package manager are just that.* Maybe you should
give your mom an Application manager.* She uses Ubuntu.* Ubuntu's software center is fairly sufficient for her. :) > Why is she even be doing sys admin in the first place when all she wanted is to listen to music. :) I wouldn't consider installing software "Sys Admin", especially if that software is already packaged to work on her computer, and comes from a trusted source.* I would simply call that "using her computer". :) On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Ike Sumera <ike.sumera@gmail.com> wrote: Package manager are just that.* Maybe you should give your mom an Application manager.* Why is she even be doing sys admin in the first place when all she wanted is to listen to music. :) On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Tres Finocchiaro <fatbuttlarry@gmail.com> wrote: Aurelien, I visited your page and wanted to offer some questions/feedback: If you have a back and forward button, why not simply use a web browser? What does this application do that apt-url doesn't already do? I frequently use the 10.04 Ubuntu package manager and find it very useful 90% of the time (the interface is notoriously clunky, but it's icons, thumbnails, descriptions, visual feedback are pretty solid).* Is there an initiative to leverage similar behavior? When will a package manager start "graying-out" debug tools and library dependencies so people like my mother aren't bombarded with "amarok-dbg", "kamefu-data" when she just wants "amarok"? I like the idea and I'd like to see more, but at the end of the day I only need one package manager, and in kde, it's konsole. -Tres 2010/6/1 Aurélien Gâteau <aurelien.gateau@canonical.com> Hi, Since I have lots of free time :), I played this weekend with an idea of mine: a simple tool to install/remove packages. The tool is named Kapti, this wiki page will let you learn more about it and even install it: http://gitorious.org/kapti/pages/Home What makes it a bit different than other tools is that it's a web-like UI: you click links to install/remove packages or view the detailed information of a package. This is quite handy because for example the detailed information presents the suggests/recommends list as links, so you can easily learn more about a suggested package, click its "Install" link, then click the "Back" button to return to the previous package you were reading about. I do not intend to develop this as a competitor to KPackageKit and I already talked with Daniel Nicoletti, the KPackageKit maintainer (who is CC to this mail), about this. I see Kapti as an experiment on the UI, something which maybe could be integrated in KPackageKit later (but there is nothing precise right now). I am interested in your feedback, especially regarding the fact that it behaves a bit like a web browser. Aurélien DISCLAIMER: I created Kapti in my (ever shrinking) free time, Canonical is not involved in it. -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- - Tres.Finocchiaro@gmail.com -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel -- - Tres.Finocchiaro@gmail.com -- kubuntu-devel mailing list kubuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/kubuntu-devel |
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