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Old 11-10-2008, 10:40 AM
Jonathan Riddell
 
Default KDE 4.1.3 into intrepid-updates

Hi

I'd like to proposed KDE 4.1.3 can be moved to intrepid-updates. I'd
also like to ask about a standing allowance for KDE bugfix releases to
go into -proposed/updates.

The fixes are well documented
http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog4_1_2to4_1_3.php

and the release is currently in intrepid-backports with no reports of
regressions.

It also includes a couple of further fixes from upstream and a dependency
workaround for khangman is currently broken when installed without kanagram.

Jonathan

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Old 11-10-2008, 02:26 PM
Martin Pitt
 
Default KDE 4.1.3 into intrepid-updates

Hi Jonathan,

Jonathan Riddell [2008-11-10 11:40 +0000]:
> I'd like to proposed KDE 4.1.3 can be moved to intrepid-updates.

You mean -proposed? They haven't been in -proposed, and I didn't see
any SRU bugs for calling for testing, etc.

How much testing did they get so far? Is this documented anywhere?

> I'd also like to ask about a standing allowance for KDE bugfix
> releases to go into -proposed/updates.

This needs to be ack'ed by the Technical Board [1]. Is there a policy
somewhere which kind of fixes go into stable point releases, and which
kind of testing they receive?

My personal feeling is that it's a good idea in general. However, I
still remember the time when a microrelease completely broke SSL in
konqueror; at that time, it had also been tested for several days
already, and nobody noticed it. So if this gets a standing exception,
it should follow the standard SRU bug/testing/verification
documentation procedure, similar to the GNOME updates.

Thanks,

Martin

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates/MicroReleaseExceptions

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Old 11-10-2008, 10:21 PM
Jonathan Riddell
 
Default KDE 4.1.3 into intrepid-updates

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 04:26:40PM +0100, Martin Pitt wrote:
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Jonathan Riddell [2008-11-10 11:40 +0000]:
> > I'd like to proposed KDE 4.1.3 can be moved to intrepid-updates.
>
> You mean -proposed? They haven't been in -proposed, and I didn't see
> any SRU bugs for calling for testing, etc.

Yes, via -proposed.

> How much testing did they get so far? Is this documented anywhere?

It has got wide testing through the community from -backports. We
don't have it documented anywhere, can you point me to an example of
how this is done with Gnome?

> > I'd also like to ask about a standing allowance for KDE bugfix
> > releases to go into -proposed/updates.
>
> This needs to be ack'ed by the Technical Board [1]. Is there a policy
> somewhere which kind of fixes go into stable point releases, and which
> kind of testing they receive?
>
> My personal feeling is that it's a good idea in general. However, I
> still remember the time when a microrelease completely broke SSL in
> konqueror; at that time, it had also been tested for several days
> already, and nobody noticed it. So if this gets a standing exception,
> it should follow the standard SRU bug/testing/verification
> documentation procedure, similar to the GNOME updates.

Yes it should follow the same procedure, I'll take this to a future
tech board meeting.

Jonathan

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Old 11-11-2008, 08:52 AM
Martin Pitt
 
Default KDE 4.1.3 into intrepid-updates

Hi Jonathan,

Jonathan Riddell [2008-11-10 23:21 +0000]:
> Yes, via -proposed.

OK.

> It has got wide testing through the community from -backports. We
> don't have it documented anywhere, can you point me to an example of
> how this is done with Gnome?

We use the normal SRU workflow. E. g. a microrelease which fixed a
previously filed bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/192316

and one without a previously filed bug:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/226831

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Old 11-11-2008, 04:25 PM
Tomasz Czapiewski
 
Default KDE 4.1.3 into intrepid-updates

On Mon, 10 Nov 2008, Martin Pitt wrote:

> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Jonathan Riddell [2008-11-10 11:40 +0000]:
>> I'd like to proposed KDE 4.1.3 can be moved to intrepid-updates.
>
> You mean -proposed? They haven't been in -proposed, and I didn't see
> any SRU bugs for calling for testing, etc.
>
> How much testing did they get so far? Is this documented anywhere?

KDE 4.1.3 packages are announced on Kubuntu.org web page and many people are
using it already. I've tested it on 4 computers since KDE 4.1.3 packages have
been announced with using Konqueror as main web browser (with many tabs open
and internet banking with https, too) and I haven't found any regressions.

With Regards,
Tomasz Czapiewski

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