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Today's Topics:

**1. hardy *depends* on non-free artwork? (Tim Dobson)

**2. Re: hardy *depends* on non-free artwork? (Karl Goetz)
**3. Re: hardy *depends* on non-free artwork? (Dave Crossland)


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Message: 1

Date: Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:44:52 +0000
From: Tim Dobson <personalwebsite@army.com>
Subject: hardy *depends* on non-free artwork?
To: gobuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com

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Hi there.
I know vrms is a guide not a definitive tool but would anyone like to

take a look at this:

####

timmy@freedom-zero:~$ vrms
************Non-free packages installed on freedom-zero

human-icon-theme**********Human Icon theme
tangerine-icon-theme******Tangerine Icon theme

tango-icon-theme**********Tango Icon theme
**Reason: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License

**3 non-free packages, 0.2% of 1851 installed packages.

timmy@freedom-zero:~$ sudo aptitude remove human-icon-theme

tangerine-icon-theme tango-icon-theme --purge ;vrms
[sudo] password for timmy:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information

Initialising package states... Done
Building tag database... Done
The following packages are BROKEN:
**gobuntu-desktop human-theme tango-icon-theme-common
The following packages will be REMOVED:
**human-icon-theme tangerine-icon-theme tango-icon-theme

0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 3 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 18.1MB will be freed.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
**tango-icon-theme-common: Depends: tango-icon-theme but it is not

installable
**human-theme: Depends: human-icon-theme but it is not installable
**gobuntu-desktop: Depends: tangerine-icon-theme but it is not installable
Resolving dependencies...
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:


Remove the following packages:
gobuntu-desktop
human-theme
tango-icon-theme-common
ubuntu-artwork

Score is 326

Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]

####

From what I can see gobuntu-desktop meta-package depends on the

non-free package tangerine-icon-theme.

Would someone like to fix this?

Tim

P.S. having just looked at the list I see a post about gobuntu artwork.
I imagine this ties in with that.

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If each of us have one idea, and we exchange them, then each of us now
has two ideas.** -**George Bernard Shaw




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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 10:22:53 +1030
From: Karl Goetz <karl@kgoetz.id.au>
Subject: Re: hardy *depends* on non-free artwork?

To: Tim Dobson <personalwebsite@army.com>
Cc: gobuntu-devel@lists.ubuntu.com
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On Sat, 2008-03-22 at 19:44 +0000, Tim Dobson wrote:
> Hi there.
> I know vrms is a guide not a definitive tool but would anyone like to
> take a look at this:

>
> ####
>
> timmy@freedom-zero:~$ vrms
>**************Non-free packages installed on freedom-zero
>
> human-icon-theme**********Human Icon theme
> tangerine-icon-theme******Tangerine Icon theme

> tango-icon-theme**********Tango Icon theme
>****Reason: Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 2.5 License
>
>****3 non-free packages, 0.2% of 1851 installed packages.
>

<snip>


>
> ####
>
>**From what I can see gobuntu-desktop meta-package depends on the
> non-free package tangerine-icon-theme.

AIUI, the FSF consider CC-SA 2.5 to be free, but because its part of the

CC licences, wont support it.

Search down to "Creative commons" near the bottom.

http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/license-list.html


Debian have issues with CC licences in general, and i belive none are
DFSG free.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/01/msg00020.html

http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/01/msg00021.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2007/01/msg00022.html


kk

>
> Would someone like to fix this?
>
> Tim
>
> P.S. having just looked at the list I see a post about gobuntu artwork.
> I imagine this ties in with that.
>


>
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Karl Goetz,
Debian user / Ubuntu contributor / gNewSense contributor
http://www.kgoetz.id.au
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2008 03:29:22 +0000
From: "Dave Crossland" <dave@lab6.com>
Subject: Re: hardy *depends* on non-free artwork?

To: karl@kgoetz.id.au
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On 22/03/2008, Karl Goetz <karl@kgoetz.id.au> wrote:
>
> AIUI, the FSF consider CC-SA 2.5 to be free, but because its part of the

>**CC licences, wont support it.
>**Debian have issues with CC licences in general, and i belive none are
>**DFSG free.

Yes, that's right; the FSF considers CC-BY(-SA) free, and Debian don't

(mainly because of the anti-DRM stuff, iirc)

RMS used to not support CC because they promoted a load of licenses
that didn't permit verbatim noncommercial sharing worldwide, but CC
changed their policy and "discontinued" those licenses, so RMS now

supports them. I assume the FSF follows his change.

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