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Jono Bacon 06-12-2008 11:23 PM

Changes to Gobuntu
 
Hi all,

The Gobuntu development team would like to announce that after 8.04
release of Gobuntu, the project will aim to merge many of the Gobuntu
changes into mainline Ubuntu, such as our "Free Software Only" installer
option which only installs software considered free by the Free Software
Foundation's definition of software freedom. This installer option now
obviates the need for a separate derivative project, and in the interest
of reducing the workload of Ubuntu core developers, the Gobuntu project
will instead focus on merging as many changes as possible into mainline
Ubuntu.

The Ubuntu community and Canonical remain deeply committed to driving
the development and adoption of free software. Thus, we will work with
interested downstream projects (e.g. gNewsense) to ensure that we make
their development efforts as easy and streamlined as practically
possible. The Ubuntu project has encouraged a culture of working with
and producing derivative distributions, and we will be discussing how we
may best serve the needs of these projects with the project leaders in
the coming weeks.

As always, the primary focus of the Ubuntu community, Canonical, and our
derivative and downstream projects remains the success of free, Open
Source software. We hope that by providing every Ubuntu user with the
ability to install a completely free system using the standard Ubuntu
installer we will move closer to a world of freedom, choice, and
personal liberty with the hardware you own.

Jono

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"Brett Alton" 06-13-2008 01:02 AM

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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:23 PM, Jono Bacon <jono@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> The Gobuntu development team would like to announce that after 8.04
> release of Gobuntu, the project will aim to merge many of the Gobuntu
> changes into mainline Ubuntu, such as our "Free Software Only" installer
> option which only installs software considered free by the Free Software
> Foundation's definition of software freedom. This installer option now
> obviates the need for a separate derivative project, and in the interest
> of reducing the workload of Ubuntu core developers, the Gobuntu project
> will instead focus on merging as many changes as possible into mainline
> Ubuntu.
>
> The Ubuntu community and Canonical remain deeply committed to driving
> the development and adoption of free software. Thus, we will work with
> interested downstream projects (e.g. gNewsense) to ensure that we make
> their development efforts as easy and streamlined as practically
> possible. The Ubuntu project has encouraged a culture of working with
> and producing derivative distributions, and we will be discussing how we
> may best serve the needs of these projects with the project leaders in
> the coming weeks.
>
> As always, the primary focus of the Ubuntu community, Canonical, and our
> derivative and downstream projects remains the success of free, Open
> Source software. We hope that by providing every Ubuntu user with the
> ability to install a completely free system using the standard Ubuntu
> installer we will move closer to a world of freedom, choice, and
> personal liberty with the hardware you own.
>
> Jono
>
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I whole heartedly agree with this move and wish you guys luck on your
upcoming release!

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Markus Laire 06-13-2008 06:08 AM

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Jono Bacon wrote:
> The Gobuntu development team would like to announce that after 8.04
> release of Gobuntu, the project will aim to merge many of the Gobuntu
> changes into mainline Ubuntu, such as our "Free Software Only"
> installer option which only installs software considered free by the
> Free Software Foundation's definition of software freedom. This
> installer option now obviates the need for a separate derivative
> project, and in the interest of reducing the workload of Ubuntu core
> developers, the Gobuntu project will instead focus on merging as many
> changes as possible into mainline Ubuntu.

Will you also change the "Free Software Only" installer option to
install free kernel?

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Matthew Flaschen 06-13-2008 03:28 PM

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Jono Bacon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The Gobuntu development team would like to announce that after 8.04
> release of Gobuntu, the project will aim to merge many of the Gobuntu
> changes into mainline Ubuntu, such as our "Free Software Only" installer
> option which only installs software considered free by the Free Software
> Foundation's definition of software freedom.

This will not make Ubuntu a free distribution, but it is a halfway step.
Also, I personally appreciate you being upfront about the future of
the distribution.

> The Ubuntu community and Canonical remain deeply committed to driving
> the development and adoption of free software. Thus, we will work with
> interested downstream projects (e.g. gNewsense) to ensure that we make
> their development efforts as easy and streamlined as practically
> possible.

Thanks. I look forward to this.

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Karl Goetz 06-13-2008 05:09 PM

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On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 00:23 +0100, Jono Bacon wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> The Gobuntu development team would like to announce that after 8.04
> release of Gobuntu, the project will aim to merge many of the Gobuntu
> changes into mainline Ubuntu, such as our "Free Software Only" installer
> option which only installs software considered free by the Free Software
> Foundation's definition of software freedom. This installer option now

Can I ask why its taken so long for an offical announcement to reach
this list, when its publically know that Gobuntu will be EOL'd with this
release since (at least) UDS?

> obviates the need for a separate derivative project, and in the interest
> of reducing the workload of Ubuntu core developers, the Gobuntu project
> will instead focus on merging as many changes as possible into mainline
> Ubuntu.

I hope this work results in an increased level of freeness for[*]Ubuntu.

>
> The Ubuntu community and Canonical remain deeply committed to driving
> the development and adoption of free software. Thus, we will work with
> interested downstream projects (e.g. gNewsense) to ensure that we make
> their development efforts as easy and streamlined as practically
> possible. The Ubuntu project has encouraged a culture of working with
> and producing derivative distributions, and we will be discussing how we
> may best serve the needs of these projects with the project leaders in
> the coming weeks.
>

I'll be interested in seeing how this "culture of working with ...
derivative distributions..." works.
I hope the "distribution leaders" in question give you some useful
feedback. :)
kk

>
> Jono

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Mark Shuttleworth 06-16-2008 11:16 AM

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Karl Goetz wrote:

On Fri, 2008-06-13 at 00:23 +0100, Jono Bacon wrote:


Hi all,

The Gobuntu development team would like to announce that after 8.04
release of Gobuntu, the project will aim to merge many of the Gobuntu
changes into mainline Ubuntu, such as our "Free Software Only" installer
option which only installs software considered free by the Free Software
Foundation's definition of software freedom. This installer option now



Can I ask why its taken so long for an offical announcement to reach
this list, when its publically know that Gobuntu will be EOL'd with this
release since (at least) UDS?


I mailed some other folks with similar goals and hoped to hear back
from them on how we could support them from within Ubuntu. No word yet,
so we decided to communicate the Gobuntu plan regardless.



Mark



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Colin Watson 06-18-2008 09:43 AM

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On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 09:54:09PM +0100, Jono Bacon wrote:
> The Gobuntu development team would like to announce that after 8.04
> release of Gobuntu, the project will aim to merge many of the Gobuntu
> changes into mainline Ubuntu, such as our "Free Software Only" installer
> option which only installs software considered free by the Free Software
> Foundation's definition of software freedom. This installer option now
> obviates the need for a separate derivative project, and in the interest
> of reducing the workload of Ubuntu core developers, the Gobuntu project
> will instead focus on merging as many changes as possible into mainline
> Ubuntu.

Following up to this, I released Gobuntu 8.04 CD images, which had been
lagging due to lack of testing (but Timo Jyrinki confirmed that they
were working for him):

http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/gobuntu/releases/hardy/release/

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Colin Watson 06-18-2008 09:47 AM

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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:08:36AM +0300, Markus Laire wrote:
> Jono Bacon wrote:
> > The Gobuntu development team would like to announce that after 8.04
> > release of Gobuntu, the project will aim to merge many of the Gobuntu
> > changes into mainline Ubuntu, such as our "Free Software Only"
> > installer option which only installs software considered free by the
> > Free Software Foundation's definition of software freedom. This
> > installer option now obviates the need for a separate derivative
> > project, and in the interest of reducing the workload of Ubuntu core
> > developers, the Gobuntu project will instead focus on merging as many
> > changes as possible into mainline Ubuntu.
>
> Will you also change the "Free Software Only" installer option to
> install free kernel?

This was always supposed to be the case, but a bug got in the way:

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-setup/+bug/220805

A set of fixes for this are now in hardy-proposed, and are likely to be
released with Ubuntu 8.04.1.

(Or, the short answer: yes.)

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Karl Goetz 06-18-2008 10:46 AM

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On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 10:47 +0100, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:08:36AM +0300, Markus Laire wrote:
> > Jono Bacon wrote:
> > > The Gobuntu development team would like to announce that after 8.04
> > > release of Gobuntu, the project will aim to merge many of the Gobuntu
> > > changes into mainline Ubuntu, such as our "Free Software Only"
> > > installer option which only installs software considered free by the
> > > Free Software Foundation's definition of software freedom. This
> > > installer option now obviates the need for a separate derivative
> > > project, and in the interest of reducing the workload of Ubuntu core
> > > developers, the Gobuntu project will instead focus on merging as many
> > > changes as possible into mainline Ubuntu.
> >
> > Will you also change the "Free Software Only" installer option to
> > install free kernel?
>
> This was always supposed to be the case, but a bug got in the way:
>
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-setup/+bug/220805
>
> A set of fixes for this are now in hardy-proposed, and are likely to be
> released with Ubuntu 8.04.1.
>
> (Or, the short answer: yes.)

Combined, i quite like these answers :)
kk

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