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Old 06-02-2008, 11:00 AM
Mick
 
Default Installing Gentoo 2007.1

On Monday 02 June 2008, Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
> 2008/6/1 Norman Hakim <desprado_mariachi@yahoo.com>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Actually i'm a newbie to Linux world but my final year project requires
> > me to use Gentoo Linux as my platform. So can u assist me the easiest way
> > to install Gentoo Linux 2007.1 and how to install stage3 as currently my
> > pc is running windows xp and i would like to overwrite my windows with
> > Gentoo Linux.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Norman Hakim
> >
> >
> > NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
>
> Norman,
>
> I believe that's a really good project =).
>
> Let me introduce you to "Gentoo".
>
> Gentoo is (in my opinion) one of the best documented Linux
> distribution. You can check the Gentoo Handbook [1], which is a very
> good step-by-step guide to install Gentoo on your system. It's
> translated into German, English, French, Italian, Polish, Simplified
> Chinese and Spanish. Take a look at it, I think that will answer your
> question. If you have any other questions after reading the Gentoo
> Handbook, we will be glad to answer you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ricardo Bevilacqua.
>
>
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

By the way, you may want to just shrink your MSWindows partition with e.g.
gparted LiveCD and then create new partitions to install Gentoo in. This
will allow you to multiboot into either OS. A common data partition will
allow you access to your data files, music, etc. by both OS too.

As Ricardo says, following the handbook is the best way to install Gentoo.
Then read some of the documentation for setting up and configuring a desktop,
or different services if you want to. Any questions just ask in this M/L,
the forums and in IRC.

Good luck!
--
Regards,
Mick
 
Old 06-03-2008, 01:31 AM
Norman Hakim
 
Default Installing Gentoo 2007.1

>>By the way, you may want to just shrink your MSWindows partition with
e.g.
gparted LiveCD and then create new partitions to install Gentoo in.
This
will allow you to multiboot into either OS. A common data partition
will
allow you access to your data files, music, etc. by both OS too.<<

HI,

Can u assist me or explain more detailed how do i shrink my MSWindows and
how do i create new partitions to install Gentoo so that i can do multiboot
into either os? and also about the common data partition.

Thanks.

Regards,
Norman


Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote: On Monday 02 June 2008, Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
> 2008/6/1 Norman Hakim :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Actually i'm a
newbie to Linux world but my final year project requires
> > me to use Gentoo Linux as my platform. So can u assist me the easiest way
> > to install Gentoo Linux 2007.1 and how to install stage3 as currently my
> > pc is running windows xp and i would like to overwrite my windows with
> > Gentoo Linux.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Norman Hakim
> >
> >
> > NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
>
> Norman,
>
> I believe that's a really good project =).
>
> Let me introduce you to "Gentoo".
>
> Gentoo is (in my opinion) one of the best documented Linux
> distribution. You can check the Gentoo Handbook [1], which is a very
> good step-by-step guide to install Gentoo on your system. It's
> translated into German, English, French, Italian, Polish, Simplified
> Chinese and Spanish. Take a look at it, I think
that will answer your
> question. If you have any other questions after reading the Gentoo
> Handbook, we will be glad to answer you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ricardo Bevilacqua.
>
>
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

By the way, you may want to just shrink your MSWindows partition with e.g.
gparted LiveCD and then create new partitions to install Gentoo in. This
will allow you to multiboot into either OS. A common data partition will
allow you access to your data files, music, etc. by both OS too.

As Ricardo says, following the handbook is the best way to install Gentoo.
Then read some of the documentation for setting up and configuring a desktop,
or different services if you want to. Any questions just ask in this M/L,
the forums and in IRC.

Good luck!
--
Regards,
Mick













NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
 
Old 06-03-2008, 11:16 AM
Mick
 
Default Installing Gentoo 2007.1

On Tuesday 03 June 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
> >>By the way, you may want to just shrink your MSWindows partition with
>
> e.g.
> gparted LiveCD and then create new partitions to install Gentoo in.
> This
> will allow you to multiboot into either OS. A common data partition
> will
> allow you access to your data files, music, etc. by both OS too.<<
>
> HI,
>
> Can u assist me or explain more detailed how do i shrink my MSWindows and
> how do i create new partitions to install Gentoo so that i can do multiboot
> into either os? and also about the common data partition.

Hi Norman,
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Try to follow accepted/expected netiquette on this mailing list please. Check
(http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php) which includes avoiding
html format and top-posting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

My way of shrinking MSWIndows OS partitions:

1. Move all data files from C: drive, where MSWindows usually saves files as
a default (e.g. from My Documents, My Music, etc.), to a CD/DVD/fileserver.
2. Delete all *.tmp files under Cocuments and Settingsuser_nameLocal
SettingsTemp, stale image files, etc.
3. Defragment the C: drive, reboot and defragment once more.
4. Use Gparted to shrink the C: drive partition to something between 12 to
15GB.
5. Boot into MSWindows, which may well run chdisk - let it finish. Then go to
Administrative Tools/ Disk Manager and create a new data partition, but leave
enough space on the disk for the Gentoo partitions (min 10G). The new data
partition can be formatted as ntfs or msdos.
6. Move all your data files from the CD/DVD/fileserver into the new partition.
Change all MSWindows applications default paths to save their new files into
your new data partition, instead of C: - otherwise you will soon run out of
space on your C: drive.

For getting gparted go to http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php download
the iso and burn a CD image. If you would prefer using a LiveUSB and your PC
can boot from a USB drive, then follow the link to the LiveUSB in the gparted
website.

Then follow the Gentoo installation handbook for creating the Gentoo
partitions while booted into the gparted LiveCD if you wish, or boot using
the Gentoo LiveCD and use fdisk to create the new partitions exactly as the
handbook describes.

Multibooting can be achieved in different ways. If your linux installation is
to become permanent then follow the Gentoo handbook to install Grub in the
MBR of the hard disk and configure your /boot/grub/grub.conf as shown in the
handbook for chainloading the WinXP OS.

Alternatively, if your MSWindows OS is permanent and your Linux installation
is temporary, you will need to install Grub into the partition boot sector of
your Linux OS (either the /boot partition, or if you do not use a separate
boot partition then use your root partition) and follow the instructions
under the section "Getting NTLDR to Load Linux" in this link:
http://www.vsubhash.com/writeups/multiboot_os.asp

The link describes the LiLo boot manager, but the principles are the same as
far as MSWindows is concerned. You can google for "chainload Grub using
NTLDR" or similar to find the same approach but using Grub as the linux boot
manager.

HTH.
--
Regards,
Mick
 
Old 06-06-2008, 01:13 AM
Norman Hakim
 
Default Installing Gentoo 2007.1

I'm planning to install Gentoo Linux and i want to overwrite my current MSWindows because i don't to do multiboot. How do i actually do so that i can install it.

I have no experience in installing any Linux Distro. =)

Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote: On Monday 02 June 2008, Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
> 2008/6/1 Norman Hakim :
> > Hi,
> >
> > Actually i'm a newbie to Linux world but my final year project requires
> > me to use Gentoo Linux as my platform. So can u assist me the easiest way
> > to install Gentoo Linux 2007.1 and how to install stage3 as currently my
> > pc is running windows xp and i would like to overwrite my windows with
> > Gentoo Linux.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
Regards,
> > Norman Hakim
> >
> >
> > NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
>
> Norman,
>
> I believe that's a really good project =).
>
> Let me introduce you to "Gentoo".
>
> Gentoo is (in my opinion) one of the best documented Linux
> distribution. You can check the Gentoo Handbook [1], which is a very
> good step-by-step guide to install Gentoo on your system. It's
> translated into German, English, French, Italian, Polish, Simplified
> Chinese and Spanish. Take a look at it, I think that will answer your
> question. If you have any other questions after reading the Gentoo
> Handbook, we will be glad to answer you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ricardo Bevilacqua.
>
>
> [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/index.xml

By the way, you may want to just shrink your MSWindows partition with e.g.
gparted LiveCD and then create new
partitions to install Gentoo in. This
will allow you to multiboot into either OS. A common data partition will
allow you access to your data files, music, etc. by both OS too.

As Ricardo says, following the handbook is the best way to install Gentoo.
Then read some of the documentation for setting up and configuring a desktop,
or different services if you want to. Any questions just ask in this M/L,
the forums and in IRC.

Good luck!
--
Regards,
Mick













NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
 
Old 06-06-2008, 01:23 AM
Matt Harrison
 
Default Installing Gentoo 2007.1

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Norman Hakim wrote:
| I'm planning to install Gentoo Linux and i want to overwrite my current
| MSWindows because i don't to do multiboot. How do i actually do so that
| i can install it.

Just follow the instructions in the install sections of the handbook,
and when it comes to the partitioning, just delete all the partitions
that are there before creating those for gentoo.

Of course I have to write that you need to be sure this is really what
you want, just in case.

I've just checked and there is a section on removing all partitions from
a disk in the handbook so you should be able to work it out

- --
Matt Harrison
iwasinnamuknow@genestate.com
http://blog.genestate.com
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Old 06-06-2008, 01:25 AM
Norman Hakim
 
Default Installing Gentoo 2007.1

Ok..I will try..Thanks mate! =)

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Norman Hakim wrote:
| I'm planning to install Gentoo Linux and i want to overwrite my current
| MSWindows because i don't to do multiboot. How do i actually do so that
| i can install it.

Just follow the instructions in the install sections of the handbook,
and when it comes to the partitioning, just delete all the partitions
that are there before creating those for gentoo.

Of course I have to write that you need to be sure this is really what
you want, just in case.

I've just checked and there is a section on removing all partitions from
a disk in the handbook so you should be able to work it out

- --
Matt
Harrison
iwasinnamuknow@genestate.com
http://blog.genestate.com
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NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
 
Old 06-06-2008, 10:02 AM
Mick
 
Default Installing Gentoo 2007.1

On Friday 06 June 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
> Ok..I will try..Thanks mate! =)

Please stop top-posting and sending HTML formatted messages with banners to
this mailing list.

As I pointed to you before:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Try to follow accepted/expected netiquette on this mailing list please. Check
(http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php) which includes avoiding
html format and top-posting.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

--
Regards,
Mick
 

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