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Old 05-19-2008, 08:50 PM
Default OT: Linux/Standards-friendly mobile phone

On 19 May 2008, at 20:58, Stroller wrote:

On 19 May 2008, at 19:29, Albert Hopkins wrote:

... I know
OpenMoko and Android are pretty much not available to the masses
at this


I think that's a little debatable. The OpenMoko Freerunner is in
production this week, and will surely be shipping this month. The
final prototype completed testing - including all the production-
line testing - a week or two ago.


On 19 May 2008, at 21:02, steve@openmoko.com wrote:

The factory made us do one more Pre MP run to maximize yield.
basically you build a XyZ phones. you test them, Xy% pass the test,
and the factory says. "good. can you reduce the test time and
decrease the false negatives on the test software, because that bad
phone really was good." arrg.

Talked to sean this AM and everything looks good.


I presume "Pre MP" stands for pre Mass-Production. The design has
been absolutely finalised and there are community members out there
(i.e. not employees of Openmoko) with the final version of the phone
in their hands - about 100 were built for the previous stage of
testing. These are identical to the production version of the phone
(except, perhaps, for the change of one resistor).

Basically, the current stage of testing involves running the actual
final production design down the actual production line and having
the production-line workers put them together. You can imagine that
production will start very shortly.

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Old 05-19-2008, 08:51 PM
Grant Edwards
Default OT: Linux/Standards-friendly mobile phone

On 2008-05-19, Albert Hopkins <marduk@letterboxes.org> wrote:

> Well after acquiring my first very own mobile phone only three
> years ago I've come to destroying it last night. So now I'm
> in the market for a new phone. I'd prefer something Linux/OSS
> friendly,

When you say "Linux/OSS friendly" do you mean it in the context
of managing and communicating with the phone (backing up the
phone list, downloading new ringtones/wallpaper, grabbing
photos)? Or do you mean you want to develop Linux/OSS software
to run on the phone?

If you mean the former, then anything that's supported by
BitPIM or gnokii is "Linux/OSS friendly":


If you want one that _runs_ Linux and for which you can develop
software, then I've no idea...

Grant Edwards grante Yow! I want to kill
at everyone here with a cute
visi.com colorful Hydrogen Bomb!!

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Old 05-21-2008, 08:49 AM
Neil Bothwick
Default OT: Linux/Standards-friendly mobile phone

On Mon, 19 May 2008 20:51:47 +0000 (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote:

> If you mean the former, then anything that's supported by
> BitPIM or gnokii is "Linux/OSS friendly":

As is any phone running PalmOS.

Neil Bothwick

A bug in the hand is better than one as yet undetected.

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