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forgottenwizard 04-17-2008 01:34 PM

baselayout-2.0.0 surprises
 
On 16:03 Thu 17 Apr , Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> Hi,
>
> after upgrading to baselayout-2.0.0 ( and openrc ) I've got some
> unpleasant surprises.
> Is there an upgrade guide anywhere ?
>
> Maybe some problems are causes by myself (accidently)
>
> /etc/conf.d/rc seems to have gone (now /etc/rc.conf ?)
>
> /etc/conf.d/net seems to have gone
> this inhibited my network after reboot
> Has it really gone or did I delete by accident ?
> After I have replaced /etc/conf.d/net from a backup
> the network came up on the next boot.
>
> While the init scripts is running, I get the following
> messages never seen before
>
> - cruft in proc
>
> - net.ppp0 not under our control, aborting
> Fortunately it didn't abort my ppp connection
> (otherwise there wouldn't been this email)
>
> Are there more problems to be expected?
>
> Many thanks for your help,
>
> Helmut Jarausch
>
> Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
> RWTH - Aachen University
> D 52056 Aachen, Germany
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>
>

There is also a thread discussing the new baselayout.

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Helmut Jarausch 04-17-2008 02:03 PM

baselayout-2.0.0 surprises
 
Hi,

after upgrading to baselayout-2.0.0 ( and openrc ) I've got some
unpleasant surprises.
Is there an upgrade guide anywhere ?

Maybe some problems are causes by myself (accidently)

/etc/conf.d/rc seems to have gone (now /etc/rc.conf ?)

/etc/conf.d/net seems to have gone
this inhibited my network after reboot
Has it really gone or did I delete by accident ?
After I have replaced /etc/conf.d/net from a backup
the network came up on the next boot.

While the init scripts is running, I get the following
messages never seen before

- cruft in proc

- net.ppp0 not under our control, aborting
Fortunately it didn't abort my ppp connection
(otherwise there wouldn't been this email)

Are there more problems to be expected?

Many thanks for your help,

Helmut Jarausch

Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
RWTH - Aachen University
D 52056 Aachen, Germany
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Neil Bothwick 04-17-2008 02:07 PM

baselayout-2.0.0 surprises
 
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:03:09 +0200 (CEST), Helmut Jarausch wrote:

> after upgrading to baselayout-2.0.0 ( and openrc ) I've got some
> unpleasant surprises.

Because you didn't read the elog messages.

> Is there an upgrade guide anywhere ?

Yes, and emerge tells you to read it:

You should now update all files in /etc, using etc-update
or equivalent before restarting any services or this host.

Please read the migration guide available at:
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml


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"Andrés Becerra Sandoval" 04-17-2008 02:08 PM

baselayout-2.0.0 surprises
 
On 4/17/08, Helmut Jarausch <jarausch@igpm.rwth-aachen.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> after upgrading to baselayout-2.0.0 ( and openrc ) I've got some
> unpleasant surprises.
> Is there an upgrade guide anywhere ?
>
> Maybe some problems are causes by myself (accidently)
>
> /etc/conf.d/rc seems to have gone (now /etc/rc.conf ?)
>
> /etc/conf.d/net seems to have gone
> this inhibited my network after reboot
> Has it really gone or did I delete by accident ?
> After I have replaced /etc/conf.d/net from a backup
> the network came up on the next boot.
>
> While the init scripts is running, I get the following
> messages never seen before
>
> - cruft in proc
>
> - net.ppp0 not under our control, aborting
> Fortunately it didn't abort my ppp connection
> (otherwise there wouldn't been this email)
>
> Are there more problems to be expected?
>
> Many thanks for your help,
>
> Helmut Jarausch
>
> Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik
> RWTH - Aachen University
> D 52056 Aachen, Germany
>
> --
> gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
>
>

Hello,

The migration guide is here:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/openrc-migration.xml

I think it will help you solve your problems.

--
Andrés

Volker Armin Hemmann 04-17-2008 03:23 PM

baselayout-2.0.0 surprises
 
On Donnerstag, 17. April 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:03:09 +0200 (CEST), Helmut Jarausch wrote:
> > after upgrading to baselayout-2.0.0 ( and openrc ) I've got some
> > unpleasant surprises.
>
> Because you didn't read the elog messages.

it is still not ok to remove /etc/conf.d/net. That is extremly stupid.

Oh, and another stupid think.

fsck runs with the -p option. -p for prune. But xfs does not now the -p
option and reiser4 lists all plugins.

The smart thing would be changing -p to -a - but our beloved devs don't like
intelligent solutions, instead there are patches for xfs and reiser4progs -
which are not in the tree - fucking up systems with these fs.

Really intelligent.
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"Dirk Heinrichs" 04-17-2008 05:20 PM

baselayout-2.0.0 surprises
 
Am Donnerstag, den 17.04.2008, 17:23 +0200 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> fsck runs with the -p option. -p for prune. But xfs does not now the
> -p option

Just set fsck to 0 in fstab for xfs volumes.

Bye...

Dirk

Neil Bothwick 04-17-2008 05:42 PM

baselayout-2.0.0 surprises
 
On Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:23:18 +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> > Because you didn't read the elog messages.
>
> it is still not ok to remove /etc/conf.d/net. That is extremly stupid.

It would be, but it wasn't removed on any of the three machines I
upgraded. /etc/init.d/net.eth0 was removed on all of them, but that is
documented in the upgrade guide.


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Volker Armin Hemmann 04-17-2008 06:36 PM

baselayout-2.0.0 surprises
 
On Donnerstag, 17. April 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 17.04.2008, 17:23 +0200 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> > fsck runs with the -p option. -p for prune. But xfs does not now the
> > -p option
>
> Just set fsck to 0 in fstab for xfs volumes.
>
> Bye...
>
> Dirk

no, the thing is, -p for 'automatic check&repair' is just wrong. -a would be
better. Because -a is understood by a lot more fscks.

-p as prune/automatic repair is only understood by ext2/3 and reiserfsck.
-a is there for a reason. A good one.
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"Dirk Heinrichs" 04-17-2008 06:40 PM

baselayout-2.0.0 surprises
 
Am Donnerstag, den 17.04.2008, 20:36 +0200 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> On Donnerstag, 17. April 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 17.04.2008, 17:23 +0200 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> > > fsck runs with the -p option. -p for prune. But xfs does not now the
> > > -p option
> >
> > Just set fsck to 0 in fstab for xfs volumes.
>
> no, the thing is, -p for 'automatic check&repair' is just wrong. -a would be
> better. Because -a is understood by a lot more fscks.
>
> -p as prune/automatic repair is only understood by ext2/3 and reiserfsck.
> -a is there for a reason. A good one.

Both of them have no effect on fsck.xfs, because no matter what options
you give to a dummy, it will stay a dummy.

Bye...

Dirk

"Dirk Heinrichs" 04-17-2008 06:51 PM

baselayout-2.0.0 surprises
 
Am Donnerstag, den 17.04.2008, 20:36 +0200 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> On Donnerstag, 17. April 2008, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 17.04.2008, 17:23 +0200 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
> > > fsck runs with the -p option. -p for prune. But xfs does not now the
> > > -p option
> >
> > Just set fsck to 0 in fstab for xfs volumes.

> no, the thing is, -p for 'automatic check&repair' is just wrong. -a would be
> better. Because -a is understood by a lot more fscks.
>
> -p as prune/automatic repair is only understood by ext2/3 and reiserfsck.
> -a is there for a reason. A good one.

Not using fsck for xfs also has a reason. A good one. From "man
fsck.xfs":

XFS is a journaling filesystem and performs recovery at mount(8) time if
necessary, so fsck.xfs simply exits with a zero exit status.

So whatever option you give to it, it doesn't matter.

Bye...

Dirk


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