Peter Humphrey wrote:
> On Friday 06 July 2012 01:18:42 Dale wrote:
>
>> But if you try to boot and the grub menu doesn't come up at all, then
>> what? You can't select to boot anything including the rescue system.
> Yet to happen, but if it did I'd have to boot a rescue CD, mount the
> rescue system and chroot to it, rerun grub and reboot. Doesn't sound
> like much of a problem to me.

It would be for me. I have my system partitioned out pretty well.
Since so much stuff has moved to /usr, that means I would have to mount
basically every partition I have. It's not a problem but as I
mentioned, it is a pain in the butt. It's also something I would like
to avoid if possible. That is why I, likely others too, want more info
and docs so that we can rescue ourselves.


>
>> I want to be able to fix whatever happens. Grub has been good to me
>> so far but I have had a time when after the BIOS was done, I got
>> nothing, nothing at all. That would be something I would want to
>> know how to fix since I can't even boot to get help or search
>> google. If it isn't between my ears, I'm toast. Right now, there
>> is very little grub2 between my ears. Sometimes there is very
>> little at all between my ears. lol
> Not sure what we're arguing about here. My method suits me, yours you.
> :-)
>

Not arguing, just pointing out that things can and do fail and that
having good plans before it happens is a good idea. Something that hal
taught me in a quick hurry. Just because something works for most
people doesn't mean we shouldn't plan for a problem.

Dale

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Plus you don't technically need a menu at all. You can.use the grub cli to boot whichever partitions you have mind to.

Terry

Peter Humphrey <peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> wrote:

>On Friday 06 July 2012 01:18:42 Dale wrote:
>
>> But if you try to boot and the grub menu doesn't come up at all, then
>> what? You can't select to boot anything including the rescue system.
>
>Yet to happen, but if it did I'd have to boot a rescue CD, mount the
>rescue system and chroot to it, rerun grub and reboot. Doesn't sound
>like much of a problem to me.
>
>> I want to be able to fix whatever happens. Grub has been good to me
>> so far but I have had a time when after the BIOS was done, I got
>> nothing, nothing at all. That would be something I would want to
>> know how to fix since I can't even boot to get help or search
>> google. If it isn't between my ears, I'm toast. Right now, there
>> is very little grub2 between my ears. Sometimes there is very
>> little at all between my ears. lol
>
>Not sure what we're arguing about here. My method suits me, yours you.
>:-)
>
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There are.many good docs on the web about it. Yes much of this is just resistance to change.

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Sebastian Pipping <sping@gentoo.org> wrote:
Hello,


On 07/05/2012 08:28 PM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2012-07-05, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> Has anyone seen/tried this guide?
>>
>> http://dev.gentoo.org/~cardoe/docs/grub2-migration.xml
>>
>> The devs seem to be moving along with migration to grub2.
>>
>> as evidence in the gentoo-dev thread. I curious if folks are going to
>> follow the docs, or are we each going to wing out way to grub2 with
>> the legacy installs of gentoo?
>
> I plan on dragging my feet for as long as possible, and won't switch
> until I'm forced to. And by "forced to" I mean that grub-legacy
> simply won't work anymore -- regardless of whether there's a Gentoo
> pack
age for
it or not.

a few weeks ago I was one of those people about to stay away from GRUB 2
as long as possible. What I didn't know is that part of what I knew and
disliked about GRUB 2 was (only) specific to Debian, the fact that you
no longer edit /etc/grub/grub.cfg directly: you edit parts that are
combined for you.

Short version: if it's fear of the unknown with you too, I recommend
getting to know that beast a little better. You'll either end up with
many good arguments against it or find out that it's better than you
expected in the beginning. My guess is the latter. Anyway. Give it a try.

Best,



Sebastian

On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:17:53 -0500, Dale wrote:

> > Yet to happen, but if it did I'd have to boot a rescue CD, mount the
> > rescue system and chroot to it, rerun grub and reboot. Doesn't sound
> > like much of a problem to me.
>
> It would be for me. I have my system partitioned out pretty well.
> Since so much stuff has moved to /usr, that means I would have to mount
> basically every partition I have. It's not a problem but as I
> mentioned, it is a pain in the butt.

Then put a shell script in the root filesystem to do it all for you. that
way you get to type the commands when you are not in a panic about losing
all your data and only have to run one command when you are.


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On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:20:15 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I been reading up on this beast too. The commands and such appear to be
> specific to Gentoo OR at least different from Kubuntu. My money is on
> Kubuntu being weird. On my bro's Kubuntu I run grub-update but on
> Gentoo it is grub-mkconfig or something to that effect.

grub-update is just a one line shell script that runs

grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg


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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 20:17:53 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>>> Yet to happen, but if it did I'd have to boot a rescue CD, mount the
>>> rescue system and chroot to it, rerun grub and reboot. Doesn't sound
>>> like much of a problem to me.
>> It would be for me. I have my system partitioned out pretty well.
>> Since so much stuff has moved to /usr, that means I would have to mount
>> basically every partition I have. It's not a problem but as I
>> mentioned, it is a pain in the butt.
> Then put a shell script in the root filesystem to do it all for you. that
> way you get to type the commands when you are not in a panic about losing
> all your data and only have to run one command when you are.
>
>


That would work until I moved something around. Then, back to the
drawing board. I draw on the drawing board a lot tho. ;-)

Dale

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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Jul 2012 18:20:15 -0500, Dale wrote:
>
>> I been reading up on this beast too. The commands and such appear to be
>> specific to Gentoo OR at least different from Kubuntu. My money is on
>> Kubuntu being weird. On my bro's Kubuntu I run grub-update but on
>> Gentoo it is grub-mkconfig or something to that effect.
> grub-update is just a one line shell script that runs
>
> grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
>
>


I should have bet money on Kubuntu. lol I sort of figured that Gentoo
was following upstream so that sort of left Kubuntu out of the water or
maybe downstream. It's to early for thinking right now.

Dale

:-) :-)

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