On Tuesday 15 May 2012 18:25:57 john wrote:

> Would like to thank all guys and girls for posting. Even though I
> post very little myself your posts are always excellent and there is
> plenty to learn from just reading them.
>
> There are things I can do now which I never thought possible. Thanks

Is this one case in which a me-too message is acceptable? Anyway, I
second John's gratitude to you all.

--
Rgds
Peter

On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think:

>

> http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml

>

> I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit tho.

> Someone put alum in your water or something?

>


I blabbed that much??


Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related to CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end up in the top 5?? o_O


Rgds,

On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:32 +0700
Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:

> On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think:
> >
> > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml
> >
> > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit
> > tho. Someone put alum in your water or something?
> >
>
> I blabbed that much??
>
> Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related to
> CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end up in
> the top 5?? o_O
>
> Rgds,

OK, OK. May I remind you what started this thread?
If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will
of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm
forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious.
I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post
on preferring top-most would start off.

My original problem (see title) is as yet unsolved. Any one
out there with an idea what might be causing this?
I'm grateful to those 3 or 4 who tried to help, but
by now I'm rather desperate and in the whole of internet
pages there is nothing even coming near.

bugzilla told me this wasn't a bug and go to the forums.
So you are really my last resort.

regards, michael

Michael Scherer wrote:
> On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:32 +0700
> Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
>
>> On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think:
>>>
>>> http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml
>>>
>>> I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit
>>> tho. Someone put alum in your water or something?
>>>
>>
>> I blabbed that much??
>>
>> Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related to
>> CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end up in
>> the top 5?? o_O
>>
>> Rgds,
>
> OK, OK. May I remind you what started this thread?
> If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will
> of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm
> forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious.
> I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post
> on preferring top-most would start off.
>
> My original problem (see title) is as yet unsolved. Any one
> out there with an idea what might be causing this?
> I'm grateful to those 3 or 4 who tried to help, but
> by now I'm rather desperate and in the whole of internet
> pages there is nothing even coming near.
>
> bugzilla told me this wasn't a bug and go to the forums.
> So you are really my last resort.
>
> regards, michael
>
>


I would start with running make -j1 && make modules_install. Someone
else posted it could be a race condition.

Are you editing the config by hand or are you using menuconfig or some
such tool? If editing by hand maybe one thing is enabled but something
else it needs is not.

Still thinking.

Dale

:-) :-)


--
I am only responsible for what I said ... Not for what you understood or
how you interpreted my words!

Miss the compile output? Hint:
EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--quiet-build=n"

On Thu, 17 May 2012 18:14:20 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:

> I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post
> on preferring top-most would start off.

It wasn't your preference, it was your attitude, with this comment

"from now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames."

Did you really have no idea that such an arrogant and inflammatory
statement would produce a reaction?


--
Neil Bothwick

She's fine, upstanding, and wonderful laying down.

On 2012-05-17 12:14 PM, Michael Scherer <a6702894@unet.univie.ac.at> wrote:

If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will of course
comply, though with outlook express which I'm forced to use most of
the time this is a bit tedious.


Interesting... so, you have someone standing next to you most of the
time, pointing a gun at your head, forcing you to use one of the worst
mail clients that ever existed?

On May 17, 2012 11:19 PM, "Michael Scherer" <a6702894@unet.univie.ac.at> wrote:

>

> On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:32 +0700

> Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:

>

> > On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> > >

> > > Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think:

> > >

> > > http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml

> > >

> > > I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit

> > > tho. Someone put alum in your water or something?

> > >

> >

> > I blabbed that much??

> >

> > Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related to

> > CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end up in

> > the top 5?? o_O

> >

> > Rgds,

>

> OK, OK. May I remind you what started this thread?

> If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will

> of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm

> forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious.

> I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post

> on preferring top-most would start off.

>

> My original problem (see title) is as yet unsolved. Any one

> out there with an idea what might be causing this?

> I'm grateful to those 3 or 4 who tried to help, but

> by now I'm rather desperate and in the whole of internet

> pages there is nothing even coming near.

>

> bugzilla told me this wasn't a bug and go to the forums.

> So you are really my last resort.

>

> regards, michael

>


Based on the information you've given, there can be only 2 possible cause:


1. The Makefile is somehow b0rken.


Evidence : 'ls' instead of 'ld'


2. Some file creation failed, causing the next step to fail.


Please post the output of 'df -i'. I once ran out of inodes during kernel compile, even when the filesystem (ext4) was created with IIRC 100'000-something inodes (and still having several gigabytes of free space).



Nowadays, I put /usr/src and portage's tempdir on a reiserfs to prevent running out of inodes.


3. Something is wrong with your filesystem.


Especially if /usr/src is *already* on reiserfs. In this case, boot using SystemRescueCD and do an offline fsck on the partition containing /usr/src


4. Swapfile / Swap partition problems.


Even with enough RAM, sometimes gcc just wants a swap. Post the output of 'swapon -s' please.


And there's also the possibility that somehow the swap gets b0rked. Try turning off swap, rebuild the swap, and turning it back on.


Rgds,

On Thu, 17 May 2012 18:13:14 +0100
Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:

> On Thu, 17 May 2012 18:14:20 +0200, Michael Scherer wrote:
>
> > I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post
> > on preferring top-most would start off.
>
> It wasn't your preference, it was your attitude, with this comment
>
> "from now on I'm going follow my habits and damn the flames."
>
> Did you really have no idea that such an arrogant and inflammatory
> statement would produce a reaction?
>
>

That line was indeed ill conceived, and is usually not my style.
Probably I was very tired and the frustration about not being
able to solve my problem expressed itself in the wrong context.

regards, michael

On Thu, 17 May 2012 12:05:07 -0500
Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> Michael Scherer wrote:
> > On Wed, 16 May 2012 07:41:32 +0700
> > Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:
> >
> >> On May 15, 2012 7:50 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Maybe like me, you blabber more than you think:
> >>>
> >>> http://archives.gentoo.org/stats/gentoo-user-per-year.xml
> >>>
> >>> I didn't put them in any certain order but you have fallen a bit
> >>> tho. Someone put alum in your water or something?
> >>>
> >>
> >> I blabbed that much??
> >>
> >> Gee... I purposefully stay away from piping up in threads related
> >> to CUPS, KDE, Gnome, and other desktop-only stuff, and still end
> >> up in the top 5?? o_O
> >>
> >> Rgds,
> >
> > OK, OK. May I remind you what started this thread?
> > If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will
> > of course comply, though with outlook express which I'm
> > forced to use most of the time this is a bit tedious.
> > I had no idea what a flood of angry comments my post
> > on preferring top-most would start off.
> >
> > My original problem (see title) is as yet unsolved. Any one
> > out there with an idea what might be causing this?
> > I'm grateful to those 3 or 4 who tried to help, but
> > by now I'm rather desperate and in the whole of internet
> > pages there is nothing even coming near.
> >
> > bugzilla told me this wasn't a bug and go to the forums.
> > So you are really my last resort.
> >
> > regards, michael
> >
> >
>
>
> I would start with running make -j1 && make modules_install. Someone
> else posted it could be a race condition.
>
> Are you editing the config by hand or are you using menuconfig or some
> such tool? If editing by hand maybe one thing is enabled but
> something else it needs is not.
>
> Still thinking.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
>
>

Same result as ever. I use make nconfig, which is somewhat easier
to navigate around. Only once I tried to manually change .config,
because revdep-rebuild wanted to rebuild sys-fs/udisks, which
complained about CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND not being set, but a silent
make oldconfig removed the line automatically. I did the change
manually because CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND doesn't seem to exist in 3.2.12.

Anyway, thank you for thinking about it.

regards, michael

On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 01:47:56PM -0400, Tanstaafl wrote:
> On 2012-05-17 12:14 PM, Michael Scherer <a6702894@unet.univie.ac.at> wrote:
> > If bottom-most is really that important to you, I will of course
> > comply, though with outlook express which I'm forced to use most of
> > the time this is a bit tedious.
>
> Interesting... so, you have someone standing next to you most of the
> time, pointing a gun at your head, forcing you to use one of the worst
> mail clients that ever existed?
>

How befitting that MS's flagship email client top posts by default...

Terry