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Old 11-29-2011, 12:57 PM
Michael Mol
 
Default Google Talk and 9999 versions

on my partial ~amd64 system, I have googletalk-plugin installed, and
it serves me well. On my new box (also partial ~amd64, but far more in
the stable realm than unstable realm), I tried to emerge
googletalk-plugin, and it's masked. It's also a '9999' version
package. I vaguely recall that '9999' packages are special somehow.
How is that?


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Old 11-29-2011, 01:26 PM
Dale
 
Default Google Talk and 9999 versions

Michael Mol wrote:

on my partial ~amd64 system, I have googletalk-plugin installed, and
it serves me well. On my new box (also partial ~amd64, but far more in
the stable realm than unstable realm), I tried to emerge
googletalk-plugin, and it's masked. It's also a '9999' version
package. I vaguely recall that '9999' packages are special somehow.
How is that?




I think those are called the live builds. Basically, they are not
tested much and are really close to falling off the bleeding edge. I
rarely mess with those. There is a google-talkplugin-2.5.6.0 that is
not live but keyworded. If it was me, I would at least try that version
first. It is likely tested a bit more, not going to change so often and
be stable as it gets in the unstable branch of the tree. If that fails,
go back to the older version. If neither works, then I would try to
9999 build. I'd also cross my fingers for good measure.


Dale

:-) :-)

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Old 11-29-2011, 10:13 PM
Mick
 
Default Google Talk and 9999 versions

On Tuesday 29 Nov 2011 14:26:17 Dale wrote:
> Michael Mol wrote:
> > on my partial ~amd64 system, I have googletalk-plugin installed, and
> > it serves me well. On my new box (also partial ~amd64, but far more in
> > the stable realm than unstable realm), I tried to emerge
> > googletalk-plugin, and it's masked. It's also a '9999' version
> > package. I vaguely recall that '9999' packages are special somehow.
> > How is that?
>
> I think those are called the live builds. Basically, they are not
> tested much and are really close to falling off the bleeding edge. I
> rarely mess with those. There is a google-talkplugin-2.5.6.0 that is
> not live but keyworded. If it was me, I would at least try that version
> first. It is likely tested a bit more, not going to change so often and
> be stable as it gets in the unstable branch of the tree. If that fails,
> go back to the older version. If neither works, then I would try to
> 9999 build. I'd also cross my fingers for good measure.

9999 builds is the latest potentially unstable and incomplete code that the
devs just churned out and uploaded to cvs. 10 minutes later may be another
revision and so on. Every time you rebuild you'll be downloading the latest
attempt of their coding.

What is annoying is that you had it working just right and suddenly all the
9999 builds have come off the boil and break in a bad way. This can be
particularly burdensome or even debilitating for a prolonged period, like I
experienced with some wireless drivers in the past.

Of course, not all 9999 packages are that 'unstable'. I've been running e17
for some time now and only every once in a while I happen to come across a bug
or build problem. Even so, I tend not to update 9999 packages often, once I
get a well behaving revision.

YMMV

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Mick
 

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