Belated switchover to pidgin from gaim, fails silently

02-03-2008, 10:08 PM

I just got around to noticing that my "gaim" IM client is deprecated.
I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to start it silently fail.
I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.* Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.

Does anybody want to help me guess?

--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

02-03-2008, 10:15 PM

Kevin O'Gorman pisze:

I just got around to noticing that my "gaim" IM client is deprecated.
I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
start it silently fail.
I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.

Does anybody want to help me guess?

--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Try to change name of directory in Your home - .gaim to someelse. Next
try to start pidgin. If it fails, then run emerge --sync && emerge
pidgin -va (set flags for things you need) and next try to run again. If
renaming of .gaim catalog help's then this is incompatibility of
configure files or some archives. Try to experiment. IF somethings
happend, wrote here.

Mateusz M.
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gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

02-03-2008, 10:26 PM

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:08:34 -0800
"Kevin O'Gorman" <kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got around to noticing that my "gaim" IM client is deprecated.
> I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
> start it silently fail.
> I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
> Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
> Does anybody want to help me guess?
>
>
You aren't going to get any /var/logs for a failed program like Pidgin.
Try starting it from a terminal, where you should get output.

Brian

02-03-2008, 11:16 PM

On Feb 3, 2008 3:26 PM, Brian Marshall <snail@beyondboredom.net> wrote:

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:08:34 -0800
"Kevin O'Gorman" <kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got around to noticing that my "gaim" IM client is deprecated.

> I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
> start it silently fail.
> I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
> Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.

> Does anybody want to help me guess?
>
>
You aren't going to get any /var/logs for a failed program like Pidgin.
Try starting it from a terminal, where you should get output.

* * * *Brian

Starting from a terminal also dies silently.

I tried running it under strace(1), and it appears that it's doing a poll(6, ...) followed by a read(6, ...)
on a socket, and the read errors out with EAGAIN.* Pidgin promptly dies without a message.* Pidgin

had written to this socket, but it was binary and I don't recongnze the contents.* The last few:

writev(6, [{"l4114%w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"35", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb69c2000, 16944)************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114&w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"36", 4}], 2) = 140
writev(6, [{"l4114'w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"37", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb69b5000, 8400)*************** = 0
munmap(0xb69b2000, 8364)*************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114(w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"!", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb69ae000, 12772)************** = 0
munmap(0xb69aa000, 12616)************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114)w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"#", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb6819000, 96672)************** = 0
munmap(0xb69a6000, 12552)************** = 0
munmap(0xb69a2000, 12616)************** = 0
munmap(0xb6810000, 33468)************** = 0
munmap(0xb699e000, 12584)************** = 0

munmap(0xb680d000, 8396)*************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114*w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {")", 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb67fa000, 76400)************** = 0

writev(6, [{"l4114+w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"*", 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb67e6000, 79420)************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114,w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"+", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb67e2000, 12836)************** = 0
munmap(0xb67ac000, 218892)************* = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114-w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {",", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb6791000, 107488)************* = 0
munmap(0xb678d000, 12592)************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114.w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"/", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb678a000, 8676)*************** = 0
munmap(0xb6831000, 250056)************* = 0

...

gettimeofday({1202082681, 583620}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1202082681, 584464}, NULL) = 0
writev(6, [{"l11#/17711o25/org/fre"..., 144}, {"36im.pidgin.purple.PurpleServi"..., 35}], 2) = 179

gettimeofday({1202082681, 585299}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 1
read(6, "l21144=61s4:1.3"..., 2048) = 84

++ kevin

--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

02-03-2008, 11:17 PM

On Feb 3, 2008 4:16 PM, Kevin O'Gorman <kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:

On Feb 3, 2008 3:26 PM, Brian Marshall <snail@beyondboredom.net> wrote:

On Sun, 3 Feb 2008 15:08:34 -0800
"Kevin O'Gorman" <kogorman@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just got around to noticing that my "gaim" IM client is deprecated.

> I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
> start it silently fail.
> I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
> Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.

> Does anybody want to help me guess?
>
>
You aren't going to get any /var/logs for a failed program like Pidgin.
Try starting it from a terminal, where you should get output.

* * * *Brian

Starting from a terminal also dies silently.

I tried running it under strace(1), and it appears that it's doing a poll(6, ...) followed by a read(6, ...)

on a socket, and the read errors out with EAGAIN.* Pidgin promptly dies without a message.* Pidgin

had written to this socket, but it was binary and I don't recongnze the contents.* The last few:

writev(6, [{"l4114%w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"35", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb69c2000, 16944)************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114&w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"36", 4}], 2) = 140
writev(6, [{"l4114'w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"37", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb69b5000, 8400)*************** = 0
munmap(0xb69b2000, 8364)*************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114(w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"!", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb69ae000, 12772)************** = 0
munmap(0xb69aa000, 12616)************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114)w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"#", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb6819000, 96672)************** = 0
munmap(0xb69a6000, 12552)************** = 0
munmap(0xb69a2000, 12616)************** = 0
munmap(0xb6810000, 33468)************** = 0
munmap(0xb699e000, 12584)************** = 0

munmap(0xb680d000, 8396)*************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114*w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {")", 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb67fa000, 76400)************** = 0

writev(6, [{"l4114+w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"*", 4}], 2) = 140
munmap(0xb67e6000, 79420)************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114,w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"+", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb67e2000, 12836)************** = 0
munmap(0xb67ac000, 218892)************* = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114-w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {",", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb6791000, 107488)************* = 0
munmap(0xb678d000, 12592)************** = 0
writev(6, [{"l4114.w11o36/im/pidg"..., 136}, {"/", 4}], 2) = 140

munmap(0xb678a000, 8676)*************** = 0
munmap(0xb6831000, 250056)************* = 0

...

gettimeofday({1202082681, 583620}, NULL) = 0
gettimeofday({1202082681, 584464}, NULL) = 0
writev(6, [{"l11#/17711o25/org/fre"..., 144}, {"36im.pidgin.purple.PurpleServi"..., 35}], 2) = 179

gettimeofday({1202082681, 585299}, NULL) = 0
poll([{fd=6, events=POLLIN, revents=POLLIN}], 1, 25000) = 1
read(6, "l21144=61s4:1.3"..., 2048) = 84

++ kevin

--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

More info: pidgin works fine if I'm the root user.* How that fits in with socket ops I do not know.
--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

02-03-2008, 11:19 PM

On Feb 3, 2008 3:15 PM, Mateusz Mierzwinski <mateuszmierzwinski@o2.pl> wrote:

Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
> I just got around to noticing that my "gaim" IM client is deprecated.
> I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to

> start it silently fail.
> I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
> Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
> Does anybody want to help me guess?
>
>

> --
> Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Try to change name of directory in Your home - .gaim to someelse. Next
try to start pidgin. If it fails, then run emerge --sync && emerge
pidgin -va (set flags for things you need) and next try to run again. If

renaming of .gaim catalog help's then this is incompatibility of
configure files or some archives. Try to experiment. IF somethings
happend, wrote here.

Mateusz M.
--
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list

renaming .gaim to "dot.gaim" makes no difference.

I did not re-emerge it, but found that it works if I'm the root user.

++ kevin

--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

02-04-2008, 07:50 AM

Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
On Feb 3, 2008 3:15 PM, Mateusz Mierzwinski <mateuszmierzwinski@o2.pl
<mailto:mateuszmierzwinski@o2.pl>> wrote:

Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
> I just got around to noticing that my "gaim" IM client is
deprecated.
> I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to
> start it silently fail.
> I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
> Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
> Does anybody want to help me guess?
>
>
> --
> Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
Try to change name of directory in Your home - .gaim to someelse. Next
try to start pidgin. If it fails, then run emerge --sync && emerge
pidgin -va (set flags for things you need) and next try to run
again. If
renaming of .gaim catalog help's then this is incompatibility of
configure files or some archives. Try to experiment. IF somethings
happend, wrote here.

Mateusz M.
--
gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
mailing list

renaming .gaim to "dot.gaim" makes no difference.

I did not re-emerge it, but found that it works if I'm the root user.

++ kevin

--
Kevin O'Gorman, PhD

You should get pidgin in Your group. Set correct rights to app and libs.
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02-05-2008, 04:17 AM

On Feb 4, 2008 12:50 AM, Mateusz Mierzwinski <mateuszmierzwinski@o2.pl> wrote:

Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
> On Feb 3, 2008 3:15 PM, Mateusz Mierzwinski <mateuszmierzwinski@o2.pl
> <mailto:mateuszmierzwinski@o2.pl>> wrote:

>
> * * Kevin O'Gorman pisze:
> * * > I just got around to noticing that my "gaim" IM client is
> * * deprecated.
> * * > I emerged pidgin and it shows up in the menus, but all attempts to

> * * > start it silently fail.
> * * > I tried looking in /var/log/*, for instance, and get nothing.
> * * > Grepping there for 'pidgin' and still nothing.
> * * > Does anybody want to help me guess?

> * * >
> * * >
> * * > --
> * * > Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
> * * Try to change name of directory in Your home - .gaim to someelse. Next
> * * try to start pidgin. If it fails, then run emerge --sync && emerge

> * * pidgin -va (set flags for things you need) and next try to run
> * * again. If
> * * renaming of .gaim catalog help's then this is incompatibility of
> * * configure files or some archives. Try to experiment. IF somethings

> * * happend, wrote here.
>
> * * Mateusz M.
> * * --
> * * gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>

> * * mailing list
>
>
> renaming .gaim to "dot.gaim" makes no difference.
>
> I did not re-emerge it, but found that it works if I'm the root user.
>

> ++ kevin
>
>
>
> --
> Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
You should get pidgin in Your group. Set correct rights to app and libs.
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I'm not clear on what that means.* I don't think I'm going to fool around with file permissions on an installed package.

In any event, it turns out that after I ran pidgin as root, it started to work for me as a user too.* Go figure.* I'm not gonna mess with it.* I'm going on to the other things that still don't work.

++ kevin

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