My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
web browser with a page with pictures and text.
If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
takes a moment.
I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much
faster, I didn't recognize any problem.
dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so
I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's
some kind of kernel or USE flag problem.
Any of you experienced similap problem?
Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or
pastebin?
I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.
Thanks for reading...
bendeguz
06-28-2010, 07:33 PM
Alex Schuster
slow x
mailinglists00@gmail.com writes:
> My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
> web browser with a page with pictures and text.
> If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
> the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
> takes a moment.
> I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much
> faster, I didn't recognize any problem.
> dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so
> I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's
> some kind of kernel or USE flag problem.
> Any of you experienced similap problem?
>
> Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or
> pastebin?
I'd prefer it here, but I doubt USE flags matter much.
> I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
> and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.
Which drivers do you use, ati-drivers / fglrx or xf86-video-ati / radeon?
Is the 3D performance okay?
Daniel Troeder just wrote in the 'ATI RV710/730' thread:
ATI: 3D is very good - a must for gaming, 2D is SLOW! (thou they did
something about that with 10.6 - experience differs for users - its
said that window management is fast now, but video still has tearing
effect [also my exp.])
Latest driver (10.6) work with xorg-server-1.7.x only and kernel module
has problems with >=2.6.34 (exp. differ).
Xorg: 3D is basic and very slow but works (the newer the driver/server
the better, development is VERY fast), 2D is a dream (very fast, no
tearing with video)!
Driver is released with Xorg - so work always with newest Xorg, kernel
module is in-kernel - work always with newest kernel Driver supports
both KMS and user space MS.
I only use the ati-drivers, and 2D does not seem slow to me, but I cannot
compare with the radeon driver, because the dammn thing never worked for
me.
Wonko
06-28-2010, 07:38 PM
Dale
slow x
mailinglists00@gmail.com wrote:
hi all!
My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
web browser with a page with pictures and text.
If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
takes a moment.
I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much
faster, I didn't recognize any problem.
dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so
I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's
some kind of kernel or USE flag problem.
Any of you experienced similap problem?
Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or
pastebin?
I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.
Thanks for reading...
bendeguz
You can paste emerge --info here. You can snip parts that are not
relevant if needed. I usually remove mirrors and such. Also post the
version of drivers and such as well. Using emerge -pv <package names>
is the best way. Then just give everybody time to give it a look and
see if they see anything wrong or something you can try.
Dale
:-) :-)
06-28-2010, 08:34 PM
slow x
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 02:38:22PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> mailinglists00@gmail.com wrote:
> > hi all!
> >
> > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
> > web browser with a page with pictures and text.
> > If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
> > the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
> > takes a moment.
> > I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much
> > faster, I didn't recognize any problem.
> > dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so
> > I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's
> > some kind of kernel or USE flag problem.
> > Any of you experienced similap problem?
> >
> > Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or
> > pastebin?
> >
> > I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
> > and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.
> >
> > Thanks for reading...
> > bendeguz
> >
>
> You can paste emerge --info here. You can snip parts that are not
> relevant if needed. I usually remove mirrors and such. Also post the
> version of drivers and such as well. Using emerge -pv <package names>
> is the best way. Then just give everybody time to give it a look and
> see if they see anything wrong or something you can try.
>
> Dale
>
> :-) :-)
>
Thank you, so here it goes...
@Alex: yes, 3D performance is okay.
I know glxgears is not a benchmark, but it
shows the same result on ubuntu livecd as on gentoo.
I think there is a newer card with similar name, radeon
7500, but this is the old one, ~7 years old, so I
can only use the open source "radeon" driver.
As you can see, I have a hardened system,
but on the gentoo-hardened list, the guys
doesn't have problems with 2D.
I also tried the relevant radeon driver options
in xorg.conf, but didn't help.
So, thank you all for your patience.
(Right now, I'm upgrading gcc and then
have an emerge -e world at night just to
be sure)
Regards,
bendeguz
06-29-2010, 12:42 AM
slow x
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:26:13PM +0200, mailinglists00@gmail.com wrote
> My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized web browser with a
> page with pictures and text. If I maximize it, the drawing of the
> page and the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it takes a moment.
Is this for all X apps, or just Firefox. If it's just text-rendering,
try compiling Firefox with "moznopango" flag , either in /etc/make.conf
or /etc/package.use. Note that this may disable non-English fonts.
> I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
> and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.
Is that 512MB the video card or your system ram? If it's 512MB system
ram, that's probably your problem right there. Firefox will strain your
system just by itself. Firefox is getting too bloated for its own good.
SQL database and spell-check built in... what was the old joke about
Mozilla 0.9... about:kitchen sink. Firefox is a mediocre operating
system that lacks a lightweight web-browser.
--
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
06-29-2010, 02:13 PM
Paul Hartman
slow x
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 2:26 PM, <mailinglists00@gmail.com> wrote:
> hi all!
>
> My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
> web browser with a page with pictures and text.
> If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
> the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
> takes a moment.
> I tried ubuntu livecd, and this test was much
> faster, I didn't recognize any problem.
> dri is working, I tried playing openarena, so
> I think my x is configured correctly, maybe it's
> some kind of kernel or USE flag problem.
> Any of you experienced similap problem?
>
> Where should I put emerge --info output? Here or
> pastebin?
>
> I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
> and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.
Maybe try to set "AccelMethod" "EXA" in your xorg.conf (radeon
section) and then restart X
06-29-2010, 02:21 PM
slow x
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 08:42:49PM -0400, waltdnes@waltdnes.org wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:26:13PM +0200, mailinglists00@gmail.com wrote
>
> > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized web browser with a
> > page with pictures and text. If I maximize it, the drawing of the
> > page and the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it takes a moment.
>
> Is this for all X apps, or just Firefox. If it's just text-rendering,
> try compiling Firefox with "moznopango" flag , either in /etc/make.conf
> or /etc/package.use. Note that this may disable non-English fonts.
>
> > I have a radeon 7500 , 512MB of RAM, 1,5GHz AMD
> > and fluxbox, 1.6.5-r1 x server.
>
> Is that 512MB the video card or your system ram? If it's 512MB system
> ram, that's probably your problem right there. Firefox will strain your
> system just by itself. Firefox is getting too bloated for its own good.
> SQL database and spell-check built in... what was the old joke about
> Mozilla 0.9... about:kitchen sink. Firefox is a mediocre operating
> system that lacks a lightweight web-browser.
>
> --
> Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
>
I don't use firefox.
512MB is my system RAM, but I'm sure it's not the problem.
I have this problem with different applications, even with
epdfview.
I'm using webkit-gtk based browsers (midori, surf, uzbl).
The only app. which is drawn back instantly is xterm
So, it must be some configuration or build issue, because
of ubuntu livecd (it is working fast). I guess if it's
working fine from cd, it should work as well from hard drive.
Thanks,
bendeguz
06-29-2010, 02:23 PM
Alex Schuster
slow x
mailinglists00@gmail.com wrote:
> My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
> web browser with a page with pictures and text.
> If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
> the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
> takes a moment.
Is there disk activity when this happens?
Wonko
06-29-2010, 09:11 PM
slow x
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 04:23:11PM +0200, Alex Schuster wrote:
> mailinglists00@gmail.com wrote:
>
> > My x is a bit slow. Lets say I have a minimized
> > web browser with a page with pictures and text.
> > If I maximize it, the drawing of the page and
> > the widgets doesn't happen instantly, but it
> > takes a moment.
>
> Is there disk activity when this happens?
>
> Wonko
>
Well, I guess not. But I will examine it.
The system doesn't use swap, I don't use
memory consuming applications.