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Old 04-21-2010, 05:26 PM
 
Default K3b does not find burning device

Hi,

K3b suddenly cannot find any burning device of my system.
Hald is running. vlc can acces the drive for playing dvds.
kdebase-runtime-meta is installed. k3b was recompiled without
problems. The Configuration dialog of k3b states for both
kind of drives "none". And me? I have really no idea, what
is happening here. Previously it works perfectly and I dont
know when its stops working, since I dont burn dvds that often.

Wgat can I do?

Thank you very much in advance for any help!

Best regards,
mcc

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Old 04-21-2010, 06:09 PM
Paul Hartman
 
Default K3b does not find burning device

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:26 PM, <meino.cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> K3b suddenly cannot find any burning device of my system.
> Hald is running. vlc can acces the drive for playing dvds.
> kdebase-runtime-meta is installed. k3b was recompiled without
> problems. The Configuration dialog of k3b states for both
> kind of drives "none". And me? I have really no idea, what
> is happening here. Previously it works perfectly and I dont
> know when its stops working, since I dont burn dvds that often.
>
> Wgat can I do?
>
> Thank you very much in advance for any help!

Hi,

What if you run k3b as root? Can it see it then? Maybe it's a permissions issue.
 
Old 04-21-2010, 06:21 PM
 
Default K3b does not find burning device

Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> [10-04-21 20:12]:
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:26 PM, <meino.cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > K3b suddenly cannot find any burning device of my system.
> > Hald is running. vlc can acces the drive for playing dvds.
> > kdebase-runtime-meta is installed. k3b was recompiled without
> > problems. The Configuration dialog of k3b states for both
> > kind of drives "none". And me? I have really no idea, what
> > is happening here. Previously it works perfectly and I dont
> > know when its stops working, since I dont burn dvds that often.
> >
> > Wgat can I do?
> >
> > Thank you very much in advance for any help!
>
> Hi,
>
> What if you run k3b as root? Can it see it then? Maybe it's a permissions issue.
>

No, that was my first idea, too, Same behaviour. Additionally vlc can
acces the drive with user permissions...

Does hald do something wrong ? How can I proof that (I dont like hald
that much...) ?

Best regards,
mcc


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Old 04-21-2010, 06:39 PM
Paul Hartman
 
Default K3b does not find burning device

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:21 PM, <meino.cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
> Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> [10-04-21 20:12]:
>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:26 PM, <meino.cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > K3b suddenly cannot find any burning device of my system.
>> > Hald is running. vlc can acces the drive for playing dvds.
>> > kdebase-runtime-meta is installed. k3b was recompiled without
>> > problems. The Configuration dialog of k3b states for both
>> > kind of drives "none". And me? I have really no idea, what
>> > is happening here. Previously it works perfectly and I dont
>> > know when its stops working, since I dont burn dvds that often.
>> >
>> > Wgat can I do?
>> >
>> > Thank you very much in advance for any help!
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> What if you run k3b as root? Can it see it then? Maybe it's a permissions issue.
>>
>
> No, that was my first idea, too, Same behaviour. Additionally vlc can
> acces the drive with user permissions...
>
> Does hald do something wrong ? How can I proof that (I dont like hald
> that much...) ?

You can use the command "hal-device" to see which devices HAL can see.
For example my CD/DVD burner shows up in the list as:

2: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD_RW_AD_7240S'
info.category = 'storage' (string)
info.capabilities = { 'storage', 'block', 'storage.cdrom' } (string list)
info.addons = { 'hald-addon-storage' } (string list)
storage.cdrom.cdr = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.cdrw = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvd = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdr = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdrw = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdrdl = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdram = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusr = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrw = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrwdl = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.dvdplusrdl = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.bd = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.bdr = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.bdre = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.hddvd = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.hddvdr = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.hddvdrw = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.mo = false (bool)
storage.cdrom.mrw = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.mrw_w = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.support_media_changed = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.support_multisession = true (bool)
storage.cdrom.read_speed = 8467 (0x2113) (int)
storage.cdrom.write_speed = 8467 (0x2113) (int)
storage.cdrom.write_speeds = { '8467', '7056', '5645', '4234',
'2822', '1411' } (string list)
block.storage_device =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD_RW_AD_7240S' (string)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_names = { 'Eject',
'CloseTray' } (string list)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_signatur es = { 'as', 'as'
} (string list)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_argnames = {
'extra_options', 'extra_options' } (string list)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_execpath s = {
'hal-storage-eject', 'hal-storage-closetray' } (string list)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_names = { 'Mount',
'Unmount', 'Eject' } (string list)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_signature s = { 'ssas',
'as', 'as' } (string list)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_argnames = { 'mount_point
fstype extra_options', 'extra_options', 'extra_options' } (string
list)
org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_execpaths = {
'hal-storage-mount', 'hal-storage-unmount', 'hal-storage-eject' }
(string list)
volume.mount.valid_options = { 'ro', 'sync', 'dirsync', 'noatime',
'nodiratime', 'relatime', 'noexec', 'quiet', 'remount', 'exec',
'utf8', 'shortname=', 'codepage=', 'iocharset=', 'umask=', 'uid=' }
(string list)
info.product = 'DVD RW AD-7240S' (string)
info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD_RW_AD_7240S'
(string)
block.device = '/dev/sr0' (string)
block.major = 11 (0xb) (int)
block.minor = 0 (0x0) (int)
block.is_volume = false (bool)
storage.bus = 'pci' (string)
storage.no_partitions_hint = true (bool)
storage.media_check_enabled = false (bool)
storage.automount_enabled_hint = true (bool)
storage.drive_type = 'cdrom' (string)
storage.model = 'DVD RW AD-7240S' (string)
storage.vendor = 'Optiarc' (string)
storage.lun = 0 (0x0) (int)
storage.originating_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer' (string)
storage.removable.media_available = false (bool)
storage.removable = true (bool)
storage.size = 0 (0x0) (uint64)
storage.removable.support_async_notification = false (bool)
storage.hotpluggable = false (bool)
storage.requires_eject = true (bool)
linux.sysfs_path =
'/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:08:00.0/host15/target15:0:0/15:0:0:0/block/sr0'
(string)
info.parent =
'/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_197b_2363_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun0'
(string)
info.interfaces = { 'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume',
'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage',
'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage',
'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.Removable' } (string list)
info.vendor = 'Optiarc' (string)
linux.hotplug_type = 3 (0x3) (int)
 
Old 04-21-2010, 10:27 PM
 
Default K3b does not find burning device

Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> [10-04-22 00:08]:
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 1:21 PM, <meino.cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
> > Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> [10-04-21 20:12]:
> >> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 12:26 PM, <meino.cramer@gmx.de> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > K3b suddenly cannot find any burning device of my system.
> >> > Hald is running. vlc can acces the drive for playing dvds.
> >> > kdebase-runtime-meta is installed. k3b was recompiled without
> >> > problems. The Configuration dialog of k3b states for both
> >> > kind of drives "none". And me? I have really no idea, what
> >> > is happening here. Previously it works perfectly and I dont
> >> > know when its stops working, since I dont burn dvds that often.
> >> >
> >> > Wgat can I do?
> >> >
> >> > Thank you very much in advance for any help!
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> What if you run k3b as root? Can it see it then? Maybe it's a permissions issue.
> >>
> >
> > No, that was my first idea, too, Same behaviour. Additionally vlc can
> > acces the drive with user permissions...
> >
> > Does hald do something wrong ? How can I proof that (I dont like hald
> > that much...) ?
>
> You can use the command "hal-device" to see which devices HAL can see.
> For example my CD/DVD burner shows up in the list as:
>
> 2: udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD_RW_AD_7240S'
> info.category = 'storage' (string)
> info.capabilities = { 'storage', 'block', 'storage.cdrom' } (string list)
> info.addons = { 'hald-addon-storage' } (string list)
> storage.cdrom.cdr = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.cdrw = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.dvd = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.dvdr = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.dvdrw = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.dvdrdl = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.dvdram = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.dvdplusr = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.dvdplusrw = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.dvdplusrwdl = false (bool)
> storage.cdrom.dvdplusrdl = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.bd = false (bool)
> storage.cdrom.bdr = false (bool)
> storage.cdrom.bdre = false (bool)
> storage.cdrom.hddvd = false (bool)
> storage.cdrom.hddvdr = false (bool)
> storage.cdrom.hddvdrw = false (bool)
> storage.cdrom.mo = false (bool)
> storage.cdrom.mrw = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.mrw_w = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.support_media_changed = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.support_multisession = true (bool)
> storage.cdrom.read_speed = 8467 (0x2113) (int)
> storage.cdrom.write_speed = 8467 (0x2113) (int)
> storage.cdrom.write_speeds = { '8467', '7056', '5645', '4234',
> '2822', '1411' } (string list)
> block.storage_device =
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD_RW_AD_7240S' (string)
> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_names = { 'Eject',
> 'CloseTray' } (string list)
> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_signatur es = { 'as', 'as'
> } (string list)
> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_argnames = {
> 'extra_options', 'extra_options' } (string list)
> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.method_execpath s = {
> 'hal-storage-eject', 'hal-storage-closetray' } (string list)
> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_names = { 'Mount',
> 'Unmount', 'Eject' } (string list)
> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_signature s = { 'ssas',
> 'as', 'as' } (string list)
> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_argnames = { 'mount_point
> fstype extra_options', 'extra_options', 'extra_options' } (string
> list)
> org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume.method_execpaths = {
> 'hal-storage-mount', 'hal-storage-unmount', 'hal-storage-eject' }
> (string list)
> volume.mount.valid_options = { 'ro', 'sync', 'dirsync', 'noatime',
> 'nodiratime', 'relatime', 'noexec', 'quiet', 'remount', 'exec',
> 'utf8', 'shortname=', 'codepage=', 'iocharset=', 'umask=', 'uid=' }
> (string list)
> info.product = 'DVD RW AD-7240S' (string)
> info.udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/storage_model_DVD_RW_AD_7240S'
> (string)
> block.device = '/dev/sr0' (string)
> block.major = 11 (0xb) (int)
> block.minor = 0 (0x0) (int)
> block.is_volume = false (bool)
> storage.bus = 'pci' (string)
> storage.no_partitions_hint = true (bool)
> storage.media_check_enabled = false (bool)
> storage.automount_enabled_hint = true (bool)
> storage.drive_type = 'cdrom' (string)
> storage.model = 'DVD RW AD-7240S' (string)
> storage.vendor = 'Optiarc' (string)
> storage.lun = 0 (0x0) (int)
> storage.originating_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer' (string)
> storage.removable.media_available = false (bool)
> storage.removable = true (bool)
> storage.size = 0 (0x0) (uint64)
> storage.removable.support_async_notification = false (bool)
> storage.hotpluggable = false (bool)
> storage.requires_eject = true (bool)
> linux.sysfs_path =
> '/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.1/0000:08:00.0/host15/target15:0:0/15:0:0:0/block/sr0'
> (string)
> info.parent =
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_197b_2363_scsi_host_scsi_device_lun0'
> (string)
> info.interfaces = { 'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume',
> 'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage',
> 'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage',
> 'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.Removable' } (string list)
> info.vendor = 'Optiarc' (string)
> linux.hotplug_type = 3 (0x3) (int)
>

Oh, thanks! This info and the command will help me at other places too.

And: Yes, also my two burners are listed when I submit this command on my
box.

But what makes k3b think there is no burner at all?

Instead there are a Plextor and one LG burner installed and
recognized.

What can I do next to fix that ?

Best regards
mcc





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Old 04-21-2010, 11:51 PM
David W Noon
 
Default K3b does not find burning device

On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:30:01 +0200, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] K3b does not find burning device:

>Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> [10-04-21 20:12]:
[snip]
>> What if you run k3b as root? Can it see it then? Maybe it's a
>> permissions issue.
>>
>
>No, that was my first idea, too, Same behaviour. Additionally vlc can
>acces the drive with user permissions...
>
>Does hald do something wrong ? How can I proof that (I dont like hald
>that much...) ?

Could it be related to this bug?

https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301785

If it is, there is a work-around in that bug report.
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================================================== ====================
 
Old 04-22-2010, 02:15 AM
 
Default K3b does not find burning device

David W Noon <dwnoon@ntlworld.com> [10-04-22 03:40]:
> On Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:30:01 +0200, meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote about Re:
> [gentoo-user] K3b does not find burning device:
>
> >Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> [10-04-21 20:12]:
> [snip]
> >> What if you run k3b as root? Can it see it then? Maybe it's a
> >> permissions issue.
> >>
> >
> >No, that was my first idea, too, Same behaviour. Additionally vlc can
> >acces the drive with user permissions...
> >
> >Does hald do something wrong ? How can I proof that (I dont like hald
> >that much...) ?
>
> Could it be related to this bug?
>
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301785
>
> If it is, there is a work-around in that bug report.
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dave [RLU #314465]
> ================================================== ====================
> dwnoon@ntlworld.com (David W Noon)
> ================================================== ====================

Hi Paul,

YEAH! That "fixed" it...

Fingers crossed for the next release of dbus...

Thanks a lot !

Best regards,
mcc


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Old 04-22-2010, 10:48 AM
 
Default K3b does not find burning device

meino.cramer@gmx.de wrote:

> K3b suddenly cannot find any burning device of my system.
> Hald is running. vlc can acces the drive for playing dvds.
> kdebase-runtime-meta is installed. k3b was recompiled without
> problems. The Configuration dialog of k3b states for both
> kind of drives "none". And me? I have really no idea, what
> is happening here. Previously it works perfectly and I dont
> know when its stops working, since I dont burn dvds that often.

I remember that I did see a similar report half a year ago. At that time,
cdrecord had no problems to find the drives....

The problem with k3b is that it does not depend on the portable cdrtools but on
self-written code from the k3b project that as a result from time to time
suffers from changes in the Linux distributions.

Jörg

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