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Old 04-10-2010, 05:04 PM
BRM
 
Default xorg-server 1.7.

----- Original Message ----

> From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Sent: Sat, April 10, 2010 9:14:56 AM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.
> > After that you kann kill X without disturbing the kernel (and risk your
> > data) with ALT-Backspace. You will get back a console. Log in as root
> > and do a "telinit 2" since the setuo still think of running runlevel 5
> > "without X" and this is not a sane setup: Runlevel 5 is "with X" and
> > runlevel 2 is "without X".
> This is Gentoo, not Red Hat.

And isn't it:

Run Level 1 - Single user w/o network
Run Level 2 - Multiuser w/o network
Run Level 3 - Multiuser w/ network
Run Level 4 - Multiuser w/ network+X
Run Level 5 - unassigned (typically same as Run Level 3)

So it would have to think it's in Run Level 4 not 5, which is still a sane setup, just incorrect by convention.

Or did LSB change the conventions?

Ben
 
Old 04-10-2010, 05:55 PM
walt
 
Default xorg-server 1.7.

On 04/09/2010 10:41 PM, Dale wrote:> I searched the logs in /var/log and found this:


(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X
(EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X
(EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module. If


#eselect opengl list
Available OpenGL implementations:
[1] nvidia * <------ Are you using this one?
[2] xorg-x11
 
Old 04-10-2010, 06:19 PM
Dale
 
Default xorg-server 1.7.

walt wrote:
On 04/09/2010 10:41 PM, Dale wrote:> I searched the logs in /var/log
and found this:


(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in
your X

(EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X
(EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module. If


#eselect opengl list
Available OpenGL implementations:
[1] nvidia * <------ Are you using this one?
[2] xorg-x11





Yep. I saw it switch to that during the emerge but I typed it in to
make sure. I downgraded back to the old versions and things are working
now. I did have to recompile all the input stuff again but at least it
works.


According to the forums, this is a known problem since xorg is updated
but apparently nvidia is not yet.


Dale

:-) :-)
 
Old 04-10-2010, 07:46 PM
walt
 
Default xorg-server 1.7.

On 04/10/2010 11:19 AM, Dale wrote:

walt wrote:

On 04/09/2010 10:41 PM, Dale wrote:> I searched the logs in /var/log and found this:


(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check in your X
(EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X
(EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX module. If


#eselect opengl list
Available OpenGL implementations:
[1] nvidia * <------ Are you using this one?
[2] xorg-x11





Yep. I saw it switch to that during the emerge but I typed it in to make sure. I downgraded back to the old versions and things are working now. I did have to recompile all the input stuff again but at least it works.

According to the forums, this is a known problem since xorg is updated but apparently nvidia is not yet.


Yes, I see now. It works for me because I have the ~ version of the nvidia driver
unmasked. I run the most recent kernel from Linus and the stable driver won't compile
against his newer kernels.
 
Old 04-10-2010, 08:05 PM
Neil Bothwick
 
Default xorg-server 1.7.

On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:04:33 -0700 (PDT), BRM wrote:

> > This is Gentoo, not Red Hat.
>
> And isn't it:
>
> Run Level 1 - Single user w/o network
> Run Level 2 - Multiuser w/o network
> Run Level 3 - Multiuser w/ network
> Run Level 4 - Multiuser w/ network+X
> Run Level 5 - unassigned (typically same as Run Level 3)

No, although that sounds a little like Slackware.

Gentoo uses runlevel three for everything, whether X is started or not is
defined by the softlevel and rc-update.

To switch to and from single, use

rc single
rc default


--
Neil Bothwick

WinErr 003: Dynamic linking error - Your mistake is now in every file
 
Old 04-10-2010, 08:10 PM
Dale
 
Default xorg-server 1.7.

walt wrote:

On 04/10/2010 11:19 AM, Dale wrote:

walt wrote:
On 04/09/2010 10:41 PM, Dale wrote:> I searched the logs in /var/log
and found this:


(EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please check
in your X

(EE) NVIDIA(0): log file that the GLX module has been loaded in your X
(EE) NVIDIA(0): server, and that the module is the NVIDIA GLX
module. If


#eselect opengl list
Available OpenGL implementations:
[1] nvidia * <------ Are you using this one?
[2] xorg-x11





Yep. I saw it switch to that during the emerge but I typed it in to
make sure. I downgraded back to the old versions and things are
working now. I did have to recompile all the input stuff again but at
least it works.


According to the forums, this is a known problem since xorg is
updated but apparently nvidia is not yet.


Yes, I see now. It works for me because I have the ~ version of the
nvidia driver
unmasked. I run the most recent kernel from Linus and the stable
driver won't compile

against his newer kernels.




I think this is a version mismatch thing. Xorg, nvidia and maybe
something else just don't like the currently available versions at the
moment. I did try that keyworded nvidia driver for my card but it
wasn't happy with it either. I think that was why I had a black
screen. I dunno.


At least it is working for now and maybe when the next version is
released all this will be fixed.


Dale

:-) :-)
 
Old 04-19-2010, 04:23 AM
dan blum
 
Default xorg-server 1.7.

I have the same problem when I exit KDE 4.3.3 and xorg 1.6.8. When I try re-emerging the xorg server I got error messages (blocked packages) see below:
* Use eselect news to read news items.

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1 [4.0]
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1 [2.0.3]
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/xineramaproto-1.2 [1.1.2]
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3 [2.2.2]
[ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7 [1.6] INPUT_DEVICES="evdev*" VIDEO_CARDS="-fbdev* -glint* -mach64* -mga* -neomagic* -nv* -r128* -radeon* -savage* -sis* -tdfx* -trident* -vesa* -via* -vmware*"
[ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6 [1.6.5-r1]
[blocks B ] <x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.99.1 ("<x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.99.1" is blocking x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1)
[blocks B ] <x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.99.1 ("<x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.99.1" is blocking x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3)

* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.

('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2', 'nomerge') pulled in by
x11-libs/libXxf86dga required by ('installed', '/', 'x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2', 'nomerge')

('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.2', 'nomerge') pulled in by
x11-libs/libXxf86vm required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kbattleship-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
x11-libs/libXxf86vm required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kmenuedit-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
x11-libs/libXxf86vm required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdepim-icons-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
(and 238 more)

('ebuild', '/', 'x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3', 'merge') pulled in by
>=x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.99.1 required by ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6', 'merge')

('ebuild', '/', 'x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1', 'merge') pulled in by
>=x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.0.99.1 required by ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6', 'merge')

I am not sure that the above is causing the issue, but my KDE infrequently crashes, which I did not have before with earlier versions of xorg or KDE. I am not very bothered by this issue right now but would like to see if we can get to the root of the problem. If need be, how would one go back to a previous version of xorg, like 1.5.3?

--- On Sat, 4/10/10, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 12:41 AM
> meino.cramer@gmx.de
> wrote:
> > Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>*
> [10-04-10 06:16]:
> >* *
> >> meino.cramer@gmx.de
> wrote:
> >>* * *
> >>> Dale<rdalek1967@gmail.com>***[10-04-10
> 05:48]:
> >>>
> >>>* * * *
> >>>> meino.cramer@gmx.de
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>* * * * *
> >>>>> Hi Dale,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Somne shots into the dark:
> >>>>> I am running a non-kde and non-gnome
> Gentoo here (Openbox is my
> >>>>> friend) and after upgrading X nothing
> works.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I rtecompiled openbox, lxpanel and the
> X11-drivers like
> >>>>> xf86-input-keyboard, xf86-input-mouse.
> nvidia-drivers and
> >>>>> everything was ok.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Try to recompile the x11-drivers and
> the kde equivalent of the
> >>>>> window manager (I dont know much about
> kde/gnome...sorry )
> >>>>> and may be X11 will be you friend
> again...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HTH!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Keep hacking! and have a nice
> weekend!
> >>>>> mcc
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>* * * * *
> *
> >>>> That makes sense now that you mention
> it.* I'll give that a try.
> >>>> Heck,
> >>>> nothing to lose.* I know how to use
> the sysreq keys pretty good now.
> >>>> lol
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dale
> >>>>
> >>>> :-)* :-)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>* * * * *
> >>> Hi Dale,
> >>>
> >>> to get out of X (or not-so-X in your case :O)
> ) you dont need the
> >>> sysreqs every time. since they are somehow a
> 'very hard hrmmm
> >>> "feature"' .
> >>>
> >>> Look into your Xorg.conf file under /etc/X11
> and look for "dont zap"
> >>> or something like that (I removed this from my
> xorg.conf ) and
> >>> remove that (or better comment it out).
> >>>
> >>> After that you kann kill X without disturbing
> the kernel (and risk
> >>> your data) with ALT-Backspace. You will get
> back a console. Log in
> >>> as root and do a "telinit 2" since the setuo
> still think of running
> >>> runlevel 5 "without X" and this is not a sane
> setup: Runlevel 5 is
> >>> "with X" and runlevel 2 is "without X".
> >>> To restart X the clean way do "teleinit 5" as
> root.
> >>>
> >>> HTH
> >>>
> >>> Keep hacking!
> >>> mcc
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>* * * *
> >> Well when it locks up hard, nothing works not even
> sysreq.* That was
> >> the first time it failed me.* I'm not sure
> what made it lock up tho.
> >>
> >> Oh, ctrl alt backspace doesn't do anything
> either.
> >>
> >> Dale
> >>
> >> :-)* :-)
> >>
> >>* * *
> > Hi Dale,
> >
> > you have to remove this "Dont Zap"-Option from your
> xorg.conf first.
> > Should work then.
> > But of course: If a busmaster (in this case your
> GraphicsCard) doesnot
> > release the bus...no way for little folks little some
> tiny keys
> > on the keyboard...
> >
> > Keep hacking!
> > mcc
> >* *
>
> I got rid of that a long time ago.* I like to be able
> to switch when
> needed.* I'm the only one on this rig so its not a
> security issue for me.
>
> I got the original issue solved.* I emerged everything
> installed in
> x11-drivers/* and it works fine.* I guess I missed
> something in the list
> earlier.
>
> I now have a new problem to solve.* I mentioned this
> before but now it
> is a system killer.* I boot the system, log into KDE
> as usual then log
> out.* Instead of going back to kdm, the screen goes
> black and sits
> there.* I thought maybe it was busy or something so I
> let it sit for
> about 10 minutes.* It never did anything.* The
> monitor stays on so it is
> getting some sort of a signal.
>
> Also, ctrl alt F* keys do nothing.* They work
> elsewhere but not when it
> locks up.* The only way to do anything is to go
> through the whole sysreq
> set until the system reboots.* Then the process
> repeats.* I can boot up,
> the services start fine, I can even log in but once I log
> out, it locks
> up with nothing on the screen.
>
> Anybody have a clue what could cause this?
>
> I searched the logs in /var/log and found this:
>
> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the GLX module; please
> check in your X
> (EE) NVIDIA(0):* ***log file that the
> GLX module has been loaded in your X
> (EE) NVIDIA(0):* ***server, and that
> the module is the NVIDIA GLX
> module.* If
> (EE) NVIDIA(0):* ***you continue to
> encounter problems, Please try
> (EE) NVIDIA(0):* ***reinstalling the
> NVIDIA driver.
> (II) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA GPU GeForce FX 5200 (NV34) at
> PCI:2:0:0 (GPU-0)
> (--) NVIDIA(0): Memory: 131072 kBytes
> (--) NVIDIA(0): VideoBIOS: 04.34.20.23.00
> (II) NVIDIA(0): Detected AGP rate: 8X
> (--) NVIDIA(0): Interlaced video modes are supported on
> this GPU
> (--) NVIDIA(0): Connected display device(s) on GeForce FX
> 5200 at PCI:2:0:0:
> (--) NVIDIA(0):* ***Gateway EV910
> (CRT-0)
> (--) NVIDIA(0): Gateway EV910 (CRT-0): 350.0 MHz maximum
> pixel clock
> (WW) NVIDIA(0): The EDID for Gateway EV910 (CRT-0)
> contradicts itself: mode
> (WW) NVIDIA(0):* ***"720x405" is
> specified in the EDID; however, the EDID's
> (WW) NVIDIA(0):* ***valid HorizSync
> range (30.000-95.000 kHz) would exclude
> (WW) NVIDIA(0):* ***this mode's
> HorizSync (29.5 kHz); ignoring HorizSync
> check
> (WW) NVIDIA(0):* ***for mode
> "720x405".
> (II) NVIDIA(0): Assigned Display Device: CRT-0
>
>
> I searched the forums and it appears this is a known
> issue.* Going back
> to the older xorg is one solution according to what I
> read.* If anyone
> has a sure fire fix, I'd be willing to fix but otherwise,
> I'm back
> tracking.
>
> Dale
>
> :-)* :-)
>
>
 
Old 04-19-2010, 04:41 AM
Dale
 
Default xorg-server 1.7.

dan blum wrote:

I have the same problem when I exit KDE 4.3.3 and xorg 1.6.8. When I try re-emerging the xorg server I got error messages (blocked packages) see below:
* Use eselect news to read news items.

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1 [4.0]
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1 [2.0.3]
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/xineramaproto-1.2 [1.1.2]
[ebuild U ] x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3 [2.2.2]
[ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7 [1.6] INPUT_DEVICES="evdev*" VIDEO_CARDS="-fbdev* -glint* -mach64* -mga* -neomagic* -nv* -r128* -radeon* -savage* -sis* -tdfx* -trident* -vesa* -via* -vmware*"
[ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6 [1.6.5-r1]
[blocks B ]<x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.99.1 ("<x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.99.1" is blocking x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1)
[blocks B ]<x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.99.1 ("<x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.99.1" is blocking x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3)

* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
* installed at the same time on the same system.

('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.2', 'nomerge') pulled in by
x11-libs/libXxf86dga required by ('installed', '/', 'x11-apps/xf86dga-1.0.2', 'nomerge')

('installed', '/', 'x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.2', 'nomerge') pulled in by
x11-libs/libXxf86vm required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kbattleship-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
x11-libs/libXxf86vm required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kmenuedit-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
x11-libs/libXxf86vm required by ('installed', '/', 'kde-base/kdepim-icons-4.3.3', 'nomerge')
(and 238 more)

('ebuild', '/', 'x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3', 'merge') pulled in by
>=x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.2.99.1 required by ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6', 'merge')

('ebuild', '/', 'x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1', 'merge') pulled in by
>=x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.0.99.1 required by ('ebuild', '/', 'x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6', 'merge')

I am not sure that the above is causing the issue, but my KDE infrequently crashes, which I did not have before with earlier versions of xorg or KDE. I am not very bothered by this issue right now but would like to see if we can get to the root of the problem. If need be, how would one go back to a previous version of xorg, like 1.5.3?




I'm using this version and it works fine.

x11-base/xorg-server-1.6.5-r1

It's also still in portage so it would be easier to install too. You
may want to give that a try. I think the 'source' devs know about this
issues so it will most likely be fixed pretty soon. According to what I
read on the forums it is a change on xorg-server that the video drivers
are not ready for or maybe the other way around. That was my take. For
me, as long as they know it is a issue, I'm willing to give them time to
fix it.


Now if they start taking things out of portage and leave us with nothing
but broke stuff, then we have a problem. We would then need to let the
Gentoo devs know that those version are all that can be used until
things get fixed upstream.


Dale

:-) :-)
 
Old 04-19-2010, 10:20 AM
Philip Webb
 
Default xorg-server 1.7.

100418 dan blum wrote:
> When I try re-emerging the xorg server I got error messages below:
> [ebuild U ] x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1 [4.0]
> [ebuild U ] x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1 [2.0.3]
> [ebuild U ] x11-proto/xineramaproto-1.2 [1.1.2]
> [ebuild U ] x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3 [2.2.2]
> [ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7 [1.6] INPUT_DEVICES="evdev*" VIDEO_CARDS="-fbdev* -glint* -mach64* -mga* -neomagic* -nv* -r128* -radeon* -savage* -sis* -tdfx* -trident* -vesa* -via* -vmware*"
> [ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6 [1.6.5-r1]
> [blocks B ] <x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.99.1 ("<x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.99.1" is blocking x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1)
> [blocks B ] <x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.99.1 ("<x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.99.1" is blocking x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3)
> * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
> * installed at the same time on the same system.

I did this upgrade yesterday without any further problem.
You get around the block by first emerging libXxf86dga libXxf86vm .
As I've reported before to much general derision,
I always emerge pkgs individually & thereby avoid many problems.

--
========================,,======================== ====================
SUPPORT ___________//___, Philip Webb
ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto
TRANSIT `-O----------O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
 
Old 04-19-2010, 04:56 PM
dan blum
 
Default xorg-server 1.7.

Phylip,

First of all, I currently do have a functioning xorg server; but not sure if it is working as well as it should, based on the reported errors. Does anyone know what are the libXxf86dga libXxf86vm libraries as compared to the "proto" variety"? They seem to be the offending packages pulled in by kde-base.

The way I read the error messages, to emerge the xorg-server, the above packages need to be gone and the "proto" variety packages will be than emerged.

Someone at Gentoo put in a block between the 2 package varieties, so working around this seems to be wrong. Why aren't the xorg and kde packages communicating?

Dan

--- On Mon, 4/19/10, Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:

> From: Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net>
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] xorg-server 1.7.
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Date: Monday, April 19, 2010, 5:20 AM
> 100418 dan blum wrote:
> > When I try re-emerging the xorg server I got error
> messages below:
> > [ebuild* ***U ]
> x11-proto/fixesproto-4.1.1 [4.0]
> > [ebuild* ***U ]
> x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1 [2.0.3]
> > [ebuild* ***U ]
> x11-proto/xineramaproto-1.2 [1.1.2]
> > [ebuild* ***U ]
> x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3 [2.2.2]
> > [ebuild* ***U ]
> x11-base/xorg-drivers-1.7 [1.6] INPUT_DEVICES="evdev*"
> VIDEO_CARDS="-fbdev* -glint* -mach64* -mga* -neomagic* -nv*
> -r128* -radeon* -savage* -sis* -tdfx* -trident* -vesa* -via*
> -vmware*"
> > [ebuild* ***U ]
> x11-base/xorg-server-1.7.6 [1.6.5-r1]
> > [blocks B* ***]
> <x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.99.1
> ("<x11-libs/libXxf86dga-1.0.99.1" is blocking
> x11-proto/xf86dgaproto-2.1)
> > [blocks B* ***]
> <x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.99.1
> ("<x11-libs/libXxf86vm-1.0.99.1" is blocking
> x11-proto/xf86vidmodeproto-2.3)
> >* * Error: The above package list contains
> packages which cannot be
> >* * installed at the same time on the same
> system.
>
> I did this upgrade yesterday without any further problem.
> You get around the block by first emerging*
> libXxf86dga* libXxf86vm .
> As I've reported before to much general derision,
> I always emerge pkgs individually & thereby avoid many
> problems.
>
> --
> ========================,,======================== ====================
> SUPPORT*
> ***___________//___,***Philip
> Webb
> ELECTRIC***/] [] [] [] []
> []|***Cities Centre, University of Toronto
> TRANSIT* *
> `-O----------O---'***purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
>
>
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