On Thursday 04 February 2010 03:26:49 Iain Buchanan wrote:
> > Unfortunately, that sounds all too realistic. I gave up trying to use
> > suspend some time ago after battling with wirelss and graphics hardware
> > that wouldn't suspend/resume reliably. But with 4G of RAM here, I find it
> > doesn't take much longer to power down/cold start than suspend/resume
>
> really? 4G RAM, Core 2 Duo T9500 @ 2.60GHz here, and hibernate is much
> faster. Do you have an SSD? Resuming with gnome, compiz, firefox, etc.
> already loaded is supremely better than my boot up AND log-in time
> otherwise.
>

Admittedly, I have tons of crud on this machine and the gentoo install has
been ripped apart, guts torn out and everything put back in what appears to be
a workable fashion many many times.

The odds that I have ancient crap interfering with suspend probably approaches
a certainty by now. And I'm just too lazy to dig in and have a look-see....

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On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:51:18 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

> > True, it's been on todo for a while. It's no longer an issue for me
> > now as I use a Mi-Fi 3G modem, which connects to the computer via WiFi
> > instead of having a dongle sticking out the side waiting to be knocked
> > off.
>
> And how do you power it on the road? Much more hungry to have 2x
> wifi going than one usb 3G modem (imho)

The Mi-Fi is self powered, so the laptop's power requirements are exactly
the same as when using any other wifi connection. It also has the
advantage that you can connect more than one computer through it.

> > Wicd can run any command or script you want before and after going on
> > and offline.
>
> you're suggestions on exactly what script to run to tell the current evo
> process to go offline immediately is welcome I couldn't figure it
> out, but no doubt theres some way I could emulate the dbus message from
> NetworkManager...

You can send dbus messages from the command line you just need to know
what to send to put Evolution offline. Not using Evolution, I
wouldn't know, but you may not need dbus. At least with Claws, I can just
run "claws-mail --offline" to put the running instance in offline mode.


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Neil Bothwick

Any sufficiently advanced bug is indistinguishable from a feature.

On Thu, 2010-02-04 at 09:15 +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 10:51:18 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:
>
> > > True, it's been on todo for a while. It's no longer an issue for me
> > > now as I use a Mi-Fi 3G modem, which connects to the computer via WiFi
> > > instead of having a dongle sticking out the side waiting to be knocked
> > > off.
> >
> > And how do you power it on the road? Much more hungry to have 2x
> > wifi going than one usb 3G modem (imho)
>
> The Mi-Fi is self powered, so the laptop's power requirements are exactly
> the same as when using any other wifi connection.

but more than when just using 3G with you're wifi off I bet... Not that
I know how much power my wireless card uses.

> It also has the
> advantage that you can connect more than one computer through it.

and the disadvantage that it's open to hackers... don't get me wrong - I
looked at the mifi and it looks pretty cool ("about the size of eight
stacked credit cards") I'm just saying...

> You can send dbus messages from the command line you just need to know
> what to send to put Evolution offline. Not using Evolution, I
> wouldn't know, but you may not need dbus. At least with Claws, I can just
> run "claws-mail --offline" to put the running instance in offline mode.

unfortunately "evolution --offline" opens a new instance of evolution
and puts _that_ in offline mode...

Time to look at the source.

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On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:08:26 +0930, Iain Buchanan wrote:

> > The Mi-Fi is self powered, so the laptop's power requirements are
> > exactly the same as when using any other wifi connection.
>
> but more than when just using 3G with you're wifi off I bet... Not that
> I know how much power my wireless card uses.

The difference is minimal, either way. Cellular devices vary their power
requirements depending on signal strength, so it drains more in poor
signal areas. I know the Nokia N900 battery lasts longer when using wifi
than with 3G.

> > It also has the
> > advantage that you can connect more than one computer through it.
>
> and the disadvantage that it's open to hackers... don't get me wrong - I
> looked at the mifi and it looks pretty cool ("about the size of eight
> stacked credit cards") I'm just saying...

Yes, but no more than any other access point using WPA. Less so really
because the range is much shorter that a normal AP.

> > You can send dbus messages from the command line you just need to know
> > what to send to put Evolution offline. Not using Evolution, I
> > wouldn't know, but you may not need dbus. At least with Claws, I can
> > just run "claws-mail --offline" to put the running instance in
> > offline mode.
>
> unfortunately "evolution --offline" opens a new instance of evolution
> and puts _that_ in offline mode...



> Time to look at the source.

Or file a feature request.


--
Neil Bothwick

Don't judge a book by its movie.

On 5 Feb 2010, at 09:26, Neil Bothwick wrote:

...

It also has the
advantage that you can connect more than one computer through it.


and the disadvantage that it's open to hackers... don't get me
wrong - I

looked at the mifi and it looks pretty cool ("about the size of eight
stacked credit cards") I'm just saying...


Yes, but no more than any other access point using WPA. Less so really
because the range is much shorter that a normal AP.


I really understand why you would want to use the MiFi.

Even if the MiFi + your laptop uses more power than just the laptop on
its own, you can charge them separately.


However, you should change the WPA key of your MiFi from the factory
default, if you haven't already. A 'sploit was announced this week - I
read about it on /., I think. The MiFi uses its SSID (I think) plus
the manufacturing date in setting its default key, and this leads to a
greatly reduced pool of possible keys.


Stroller.

On Fri, 5 Feb 2010 12:49:38 +0000, Stroller wrote:

> However, you should change the WPA key of your MiFi from the factory
> default, if you haven't already. A 'sploit was announced this week - I
> read about it on /., I think. The MiFi uses its SSID (I think) plus
> the manufacturing date in setting its default key, and this leads to a
> greatly reduced pool of possible keys.

I didn't wait for an exploit to be announced, I changed it straight away.
Not only for security, but if I'd lost the card with the key, I'd have
been screwed. Now it's something I can remember.


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Neil Bothwick

The world is a tragedy to those who feel, but a comedy to those who
think.(Horace Walpole)