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"Dirk Heinrichs" 01-19-2010 05:23 PM

{OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility
 
Am Dienstag 19 Januar 2010 17:26:40 schrieb Grant:
> I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
> is said to be "Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA". I've flashed the BIOS in
> other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
> Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it? I tried running the
> utility via wine with no luck.

Did you try the flashing utilities from the coreboot project?

HTH...

Dirk

Mark Knecht 01-19-2010 05:24 PM

{OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility
 
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
> I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
> is said to be "Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA". *I've flashed the BIOS in
> other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
> Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it? *I tried running the
> utility via wine with no luck.
>
> - Grant
>
>

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-pocket,1113.html

Grant 01-19-2010 06:23 PM

{OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility
 
>> I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
>> is said to be "Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA". *I've flashed the BIOS in
>> other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
>> Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it? *I tried running the
>> utility via wine with no luck.
>
> Did you try the flashing utilities from the coreboot project?

I looked into that, but the only Biostar motherboard in their list of
supported hardware is an old Pentium II/III:

http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards

- Grant

Grant 01-19-2010 06:24 PM

{OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility
 
>> I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
>> is said to be "Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA". *I've flashed the BIOS in
>> other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
>> Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it? *I tried running the
>> utility via wine with no luck.
>>
>> - Grant
>>
>>
> I'm not surprised wine won't work: it is a non privileged program
> (besides its incomplete nature). *Does the flashing program open a cmd
> session?

Unfortunately no, just a little GUI.

- Grant

Grant 01-19-2010 06:34 PM

{OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility
 
>> I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
>> is said to be "Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA". *I've flashed the BIOS in
>> other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
>> Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it? *I tried running the
>> utility via wine with no luck.
>>
>> - Grant
>>
>>
>
> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-pocket,1113.html

XP on a USB stick.... It sounds like a Windows machine is necessary
to build it, but once it's built it would be really handy.

- Grant

Mark Knecht 01-19-2010 07:27 PM

{OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility
 
On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
>>> is said to be "Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA". *I've flashed the BIOS in
>>> other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
>>> Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it? *I tried running the
>>> utility via wine with no luck.
>>>
>>> - Grant
>>>
>>>
>>
>> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-pocket,1113.html
>
> XP on a USB stick.... *It sounds like a Windows machine is necessary
> to build it, but once it's built it would be really handy.
>
> - Grant
>
>

I keep one around. It works sometimes, as long as your Windows machine
hardware doesn't need anything terribly unique. It's helped me with
flashing firmware on RME sound cards. They require Windows also.

Just thought I'd mention it. It's a bit of work, but once it's done
you don't have to mess with Windows on the disk.

Good luck,
Mark

"Dirk Heinrichs" 01-19-2010 07:59 PM

{OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility
 
Am Dienstag 19 Januar 2010 20:23:53 schrieb Grant:
> >> I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
> >> is said to be "Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA". I've flashed the BIOS in
> >> other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
> >> Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it? I tried running the
> >> utility via wine with no luck.
> >
> > Did you try the flashing utilities from the coreboot project?
>
> I looked into that, but the only Biostar motherboard in their list of
> supported hardware is an old Pentium II/III:
>
> http://www.coreboot.org/Supported_Motherboards

That's the list of supported boards for coreboot itself. I was talking about
their flashrom tool (www.flashrom.org).

Bye...

Dirk

Stroller 01-19-2010 09:52 PM

{OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility
 
On 19 Jan 2010, at 18:24, Mark Knecht wrote:


On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:26 AM, Grant <emailgrant@gmail.com> wrote:

I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
is said to be "Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA". I've flashed the BIOS in
other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it? I tried running the
utility via wine with no luck.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-pocket,1113.html


Isn't it the case that you need Windows to install that?

Yay! I love recursion!

Stroller.

Grant 01-19-2010 09:55 PM

{OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility
 
>>>> I need to update the BIOS on my Biostar motherboard, but the utility
>>>> is said to be "Windows 2000 / XP / VISTA". *I've flashed the BIOS in
>>>> other systems by booting a FreeDOS CD, but that won't work for a
>>>> Windows (not DOS) flashing utility, will it? *I tried running the
>>>> utility via wine with no luck.
>>>>
>>>> - Grant
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/windows-pocket,1113.html
>>
>> XP on a USB stick.... *It sounds like a Windows machine is necessary
>> to build it, but once it's built it would be really handy.
>>
>> - Grant
>>
>>
>
> I keep one around. It works sometimes, as long as your Windows machine
> hardware doesn't need anything terribly unique. It's helped me with
> flashing firmware on RME sound cards. They require Windows also.
>
> Just thought I'd mention it. It's a bit of work, but once it's done
> you don't have to mess with Windows on the disk.
>
> Good luck,
> Mark

Hi Mark,

What's wrong with hardware that needs unique software? Doesn't the
USB key work just like XP on an HD?

- Grant

Stroller 01-19-2010 09:57 PM

{OT} Flashing BIOS with Windows utility
 
On 19 Jan 2010, at 19:34, Grant wrote:

...
XP on a USB stick.... It sounds like a Windows machine is necessary
to build it, but once it's built it would be really handy.


I have found my attempts at building this or a CD-based PE very
frustrating indeed. It seems like an awful lot of aggro when you could
just download exactly the same thing that someone else has already
built, if only the license permitted it.


Perhaps it's just seemed like a lot of work because it's never been a
goal of mine to make a bootable Windows CD or USB stick - I've always
been trying to build them in order to help me achieve some other goal,
and it's been far more faffing about that I've been prepared to
tolerate.


There used to be plenty of PE builds available by the usual pirate
sites, but I have no idea whether that's still the case. I seem to be
getting more efficient at not needing them.


Stroller.


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