On 31 Aug 2008, at 09:05, David Sveningsson wrote:

Stroller skrev:


On 30 Aug 2008, at 21:19, Alan McKinnon wrote:

...
In retrospect, it would probably have been quicker if you went the
long way
round:

emerge -e world


Tried it. Kept dying and leaving a number of packages that I just
couldn't build.


You can resume building by using "emerge --resume". If a package fails
to build you can skip it with "emerge --resume --skipfirst".


I know this, but in the case of the libexpat.so.0 problem I got loads
of packages which THEN couldn't compile because they depended upon the
first one. And the older versions no longer worked because they were
missing libexpat.so.0.


Stroller.

On Sunday 31 August 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 09:04:03 +0100, Mick wrote:
> > $ eix -Iu --only-names
> > app-arch/lzma-utils
> > dev-libs/libsigc++
> > media-plugins/gst-plugins-x
> > media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo
> > sys-apps/hdparm
> > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
> > virtual/perl-Test-Harness
> >
> > However, when I run emerge -upDv --with-deps y world I get just one
> > package:
> >
> > Where's the others gone?
>
> Probably old dependencies that are no longer needed? Did you run
> emerge --depclean -p?

No! --depclean is evil! ) (and/or my system is borked).

It tells me to remove dev-python/pycrypto, when portage seems to depend on it:

# equery depends dev-python/pycrypto
[ Searching for packages depending on dev-python/pycrypto... ]
sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 (!build? >=dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6)

Also, it tells me to remove hdparm-8.6. I noticed that there is a 8.7 version
available, but emerge -uDv world does not pick this up . . . why would that
be so?

# emerge -upDv hdparm

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/hdparm-8.9 [8.6] 75 kB

Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 75 kB
# emerge -upDv world

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating world dependencies |
... done!

Total: 0 packages, Size of downloads: 0 kB
--
Regards,
Mick

On Monday 01 September 2008, Sebastian Günther wrote:
> * Mick (michaelkintzios@gmail.com) [01.09.08 19:35]:

> >
> > No! --depclean is evil! ) (and/or my system is borked).
>
> Your system is borked! ;-)

That's what I fear.

> > It tells me to remove dev-python/pycrypto, when portage seems to depend
> > on it:
> >
> > # equery depends dev-python/pycrypto
> > [ Searching for packages depending on dev-python/pycrypto... ]
> > sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 (!build? >=dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6)
>
> Well you could just add it to your world file, but I really think there
> is something misconfigure on your system.

Where should I look?

> > Also, it tells me to remove hdparm-8.6. I noticed that there is a 8.7
> > version available, but emerge -uDv world does not pick this up . . . why
> > would that be so?
>
> hdparm is not in the world file, and since no other package is depending
> on it, portage is considering it's removal.
>
> with emerge -n hdparm you can add it.

Sure, but I had emerged (many years ago) so it should be in there, right?

--
Regards,
Mick

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 11:49:36 +0100, Mick wrote:

> No! --depclean is evil! ) (and/or my system is borked).

Neither.

> It tells me to remove dev-python/pycrypto, when portage seems to depend
> on it:
>
> # equery depends dev-python/pycrypto
> [ Searching for packages depending on dev-python/pycrypto... ]
> sys-apps/portage-2.1.4.4 (!build? >=dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6)

equery is borked. pycrypto is a conditional dependency of portage, but
equery depends takes no accounts of that, emerge --depclean does.

> Also, it tells me to remove hdparm-8.6. I noticed that there is a 8.7
> version available, but emerge -uDv world does not pick this up . . .
> why would that be so?

hdparm used to be part of system AFAIR, it is no longer. If you want it,
add it to world.


--
Neil Bothwick

We can sympathize with a child who is afraid of the dark, but the
tragedy of life is that most people are afraid of the light.

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 23:57:03 +0200, Sebastian Günther wrote:

> But it is a *negativ* condition: portage is not depending on pycrypto
> if and only if the build useflag is specified, which noone should
> specify.

portage depends on >=python-2.5 or pycrypto.

> So --depclean should not consider it to be removed.

Unless you are using python 2.5, in which case it is no longer needed.


--
Neil Bothwick

"There are no stupid questions, just too many inquisitive idiots."

On Tuesday 02 September 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 23:57:03 +0200, Sebastian Günther wrote:
> > But it is a *negativ* condition: portage is not depending on pycrypto
> > if and only if the build useflag is specified, which noone should
> > specify.
>
> portage depends on >=python-2.5 or pycrypto.
>
> > So --depclean should not consider it to be removed.
>
> Unless you are using python 2.5, in which case it is no longer needed.

I have dev-lang/python-2.5.2-r6 installed and from what I recall I have run
python-updater. So, that's why I am allowed to remove
dev-python/pycrypto-2.0.1-r6 as per Neil's explanation.
--
Regards,
Mick

On 31 Aug 2008, at 09:04, Mick wrote:

...
When I tried I got:

$ eix -Iu --only-names
app-arch/lzma-utils
dev-libs/libsigc++
media-plugins/gst-plugins-x
media-plugins/gst-plugins-xvideo
sys-apps/hdparm
sys-kernel/gentoo-sources
virtual/perl-Test-Harness

However, when I run emerge -upDv --with-deps y world I get just one
package:

...
[ebuild U ] app-arch/lzma-utils-4.32.6 [4.32.5] USE="-nocxx%"
468 kB


This was approximately the same ratio of packages that each command
produced for me... except many times more in actual numbers. I think
`eix -Iu` found over a hundred outdated packages on my system when I
ran it. And updating one of them - obviously I have no idea which! -
fixed my expat problem.


Stroller.