Craig White wrote:

On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 19:04 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:


Craig White wrote:


On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 09:47 +1000, david walcroft wrote:


[david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo /sbin/service cups status
cups: unrecognized service
[david@reddwarf ~]$

[david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo tail -n 20 /var/log/cups/error.log
tail: cannot open `/var/log/cups/error.log' for reading: No such file or
directory

[david@reddwarf ~]$



<--------------[ snip ]------------->


OK, you need to register and then start cups...

/sbin/chkconfig cups on
/sbin/service cups start



It looks like the OP is missing something. Even if cups is not
enabled with chkconfig, the service command should still work. It
looks like /etc/init.d/cups script is missing. (I have never checked
to see what happens if the <service> script is there, but not
executable.)


----
good point - but you are not helping OP with useful things to do

David...what is output of ???

sudo rpm -qa|grep cups
sudo rpm -V cups
uname -a

Craig



[david@reddwarf ~]$ uname -a
Linux reddwarf 2.6.23.8-63.fc8 #1 SMP Wed Nov 21 18:51:08 EST 2007 i686
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

[david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo rpm -qa|grep cups
cups-pdf-2.4.6-3.fc8.i386
apcupsd-std-3.10.18-1.i386
gutenprint-cups-5.0.1-5.fc8.i386
cups-libs-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386
libgnomecups-0.2.2-11.fc8.i386
[david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo rpm -V cups
package cups is not installed
[david@reddwarf ~]$


And the output of Yum install cups - not good.

[root@reddwarf ~]# yum -y install cups
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package cups.i386 1:1.3.4-4.fc8 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

================================================== ===========================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
================================================== ===========================
Installing:
cups i386 1:1.3.4-4.fc8 base 3.4 M

Transaction Summary
================================================== ===========================
Install 1 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)

Total download size: 3.4 M
Downloading Packages:
YumRepo Warning: not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping -
mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-8&arch=i386

(1/1): cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i 100% |=========================| 4.3 kB 00:00
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os/Fedora/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
[Errno -1] Package does not match intended download

Trying other mirror.
(1/1): cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i 100% |=========================| 3.4 MB 00:05
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
[Errno -1] Package does not match intended download

Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.optus.net/fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
[Errno 9] Requested Range Not Satisfiable

Trying other mirror.
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
[Errno 9] Requested Range Not Satisfiable

Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.optus.net/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found

Trying other mirror.
Error Downloading Packages:
cups - 1:1.3.4-4.fc8.i386: failure: cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm from
base: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.


It seems to know which cups to install but cannot find the rpm.

david


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On Wed, Dec 12, 2007 at 10:26:52PM -0500, Bill Meier wrote:

Bill LaGrue wrote:

<...>

Can't you still boot to F7 ? [It sounds like the answer is no: ].

If you can, what does the log show on F7 for the same ppp options ?



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unfortunately no...I did a clean install of F8, so if I don't get it resolved by the weekend, I am going to do a clean
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On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 15:57 +1000, david walcroft wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 19:04 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> >
> >> Craig White wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 09:47 +1000, david walcroft wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> [david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo /sbin/service cups status
> >>>> cups: unrecognized service
> >>>> [david@reddwarf ~]$
> >>>>
> >>>> [david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo tail -n 20 /var/log/cups/error.log
> >>>> tail: cannot open `/var/log/cups/error.log' for reading: No such file or
> >>>> directory
> >>>> [david@reddwarf ~]$
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >> <--------------[ snip ]------------->
> >>
> >>> OK, you need to register and then start cups...
> >>>
> >>> /sbin/chkconfig cups on
> >>> /sbin/service cups start
> >>>
> >>>
> >> It looks like the OP is missing something. Even if cups is not
> >> enabled with chkconfig, the service command should still work. It
> >> looks like /etc/init.d/cups script is missing. (I have never checked
> >> to see what happens if the <service> script is there, but not
> >> executable.)
> >>
> > ----
> > good point - but you are not helping OP with useful things to do
> >
> > David...what is output of ???
> >
> > sudo rpm -qa|grep cups
> > sudo rpm -V cups
> > uname -a
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> [david@reddwarf ~]$ uname -a
> Linux reddwarf 2.6.23.8-63.fc8 #1 SMP Wed Nov 21 18:51:08 EST 2007 i686
> i686 i386 GNU/Linux
> [david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo rpm -qa|grep cups
> cups-pdf-2.4.6-3.fc8.i386
> apcupsd-std-3.10.18-1.i386
> gutenprint-cups-5.0.1-5.fc8.i386
> cups-libs-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386
> libgnomecups-0.2.2-11.fc8.i386
> [david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo rpm -V cups
> package cups is not installed
> [david@reddwarf ~]$
>
> And the output of Yum install cups - not good.
>
> [root@reddwarf ~]# yum -y install cups
> Excluding Packages in global exclude list
> Finished
> Setting up Install Process
> Parsing package install arguments
> Resolving Dependencies
> --> Running transaction check
> ---> Package cups.i386 1:1.3.4-4.fc8 set to be updated
> --> Finished Dependency Resolution
>
> Dependencies Resolved
>
> ================================================== ===========================
> Package Arch Version Repository Size
> ================================================== ===========================
> Installing:
> cups i386 1:1.3.4-4.fc8 base 3.4 M
>
> Transaction Summary
> ================================================== ===========================
> Install 1 Package(s)
> Update 0 Package(s)
> Remove 0 Package(s)
>
> Total download size: 3.4 M
> Downloading Packages:
> YumRepo Warning: not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping -
> mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-8&arch=i386
> (1/1): cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i 100% |=========================| 4.3 kB 00:00
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os/Fedora/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
> [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download
> Trying other mirror.
> (1/1): cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i 100% |=========================| 3.4 MB 00:05
> http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
> [Errno -1] Package does not match intended download
> Trying other mirror.
> http://mirror.optus.net/fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
> [Errno 9] Requested Range Not Satisfiable
> Trying other mirror.
> http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
> [Errno 9] Requested Range Not Satisfiable
> Trying other mirror.
> http://mirror.optus.net/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
> [Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found
> Trying other mirror.
> Error Downloading Packages:
> cups - 1:1.3.4-4.fc8.i386: failure: cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm from
> base: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.
>
> It seems to know which cups to install but cannot find the rpm.
----
that usually can be fixed by clearing yum cache.

why you removed cups with a --nodeps is beyond my comprehension but the
following might work...

yum clean all
yum install cups
yum update

Try that and see if it installs cups

Craig

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On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 09:08 +1000, david walcroft wrote:
> david walcroft wrote:
> > Aaron Konstam wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 09:11 +1000, david walcroft wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can restart cups by "service cups restart ( stopped) (restart)"
> >>> But on Thuderbird and Firefox they both lock up after clicking
> >>> the print button,I cannot start localhost to get to cups admin.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks david
> >>>
> >>>
> >> Reversing what I have said before now you can get the equivalent of
> >> localhost:631 by running system-config-printer.
> >> or use lpoptions and lpadmin.
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> >>
> >>
> > Pardon my ignorance but I don't know how to use these commands.
> >
> > david
> >
> I've done a "rpm -e --nodeps cups" then "yum install cups" and got to
> the point where
> thunderbird and firefox send a print request to my HP PSC 2110 but is
> not printed out.
> I still cannot open "localhost 631" 'Unable to connect'.
it is localhost:631
run system-config-printer as an alternative. I think you can understand
it if you can undestand cups web interface.
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> >>>
> >>>
> >> I've done a "rpm -e --nodeps cups" then "yum install cups" and got to
> >> the point where
> >> thunderbird and firefox send a print request to my HP PSC 2110 but is
> >> not printed out.
> >> I still cannot open "localhost 631" 'Unable to connect'.
> >>
> > ----
> > how about in firefox...
> >
> > http://localhost:631
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
> comes up with "Unable to connect"
>
> david
It seems to me there are only two possibilities:
1. cupsd is not running. What does : ps aux -columns 256 |grep cupsd
return/
2. Your /etc/hosts file does not define a localhost. Use the ip number
of ypur machine rather than localhost.
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O
> >
> [david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo /sbin/service cups status
> cups: unrecognized service
> [david@reddwarf ~]$
>
> [david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo tail -n 20 /var/log/cups/error.log
> tail: cannot open `/var/log/cups/error.log' for reading: No such file or
> directory
> [david@reddwarf ~]$
>
> My /var/log/messages
>
> Dec 13 09:40:36 reddwarf kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device
> using ohci_hcd and address 4
> Dec 13 09:40:36 reddwarf kernel: usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> choice
> Dec 13 09:40:36 reddwarf kernel: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 4
> if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x2811
> Dec 13 09:40:56 reddwarf kernel: usb 2-1: USB disconnect, address 4
> Dec 13 09:40:56 reddwarf kernel: usblp0: removed
> Dec 13 09:41:06 reddwarf kernel: usb 2-1: new full speed USB device
> using ohci_hcd and address 5
> Dec 13 09:41:06 reddwarf kernel: usb 2-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1
> choice
> Dec 13 09:41:06 reddwarf kernel: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 5
> if 1 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x03F0 pid 0x2811
>
> david
>
Somehow you do not have cups installed. I would try:
yum install cups*
again.
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On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 22:29 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 19:04 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:
> >> It looks like the OP is missing something. Even if cups is not
> >> enabled with chkconfig, the service command should still work. It
> >> looks like /etc/init.d/cups script is missing. (I have never checked
> >> to see what happens if the <service> script is there, but not
> >> executable.)
> >
> > good point - but you are not helping OP with useful things to do
> >
> I know - I am at a loss. I saw where the OP re-installed the cups
> rpm, so I don't know why the script is missing. I was hoping you
> would have some ideas.
>
> Mikkel
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You need the following installed:

cups-1.2.12-8.fc7
libgnomecups-0.2.2-8
hal-cups-utils-0.6.13-2.fc7
cups-libs-1.2.12-8.fc7

Different versions for f8 but these rpms.
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Craig White wrote:

On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 15:57 +1000, david walcroft wrote:


Craig White wrote:


On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 19:04 -0600, Mikkel L. Ellertson wrote:



Craig White wrote:



On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 09:47 +1000, david walcroft wrote:



[david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo /sbin/service cups status
cups: unrecognized service
[david@reddwarf ~]$

[david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo tail -n 20 /var/log/cups/error.log
tail: cannot open `/var/log/cups/error.log' for reading: No such file or
directory

[david@reddwarf ~]$




<--------------[ snip ]------------->



OK, you need to register and then start cups...

/sbin/chkconfig cups on
/sbin/service cups start




It looks like the OP is missing something. Even if cups is not
enabled with chkconfig, the service command should still work. It
looks like /etc/init.d/cups script is missing. (I have never checked
to see what happens if the <service> script is there, but not
executable.)



----
good point - but you are not helping OP with useful things to do

David...what is output of ???

sudo rpm -qa|grep cups
sudo rpm -V cups
uname -a

Craig




[david@reddwarf ~]$ uname -a
Linux reddwarf 2.6.23.8-63.fc8 #1 SMP Wed Nov 21 18:51:08 EST 2007 i686
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

[david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo rpm -qa|grep cups
cups-pdf-2.4.6-3.fc8.i386
apcupsd-std-3.10.18-1.i386
gutenprint-cups-5.0.1-5.fc8.i386
cups-libs-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386
libgnomecups-0.2.2-11.fc8.i386
[david@reddwarf ~]$ sudo rpm -V cups
package cups is not installed
[david@reddwarf ~]$


And the output of Yum install cups - not good.

[root@reddwarf ~]# yum -y install cups
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package cups.i386 1:1.3.4-4.fc8 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution

Dependencies Resolved

================================================== ===========================
Package Arch Version Repository Size
================================================== ===========================
Installing:
cups i386 1:1.3.4-4.fc8 base 3.4 M

Transaction Summary
================================================== ===========================
Install 1 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)

Total download size: 3.4 M
Downloading Packages:
YumRepo Warning: not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping -
mirrorlist=http://mirrors.fedoraproject.org/mirrorlist?repo=fedora-8&arch=i386

(1/1): cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i 100% |=========================| 4.3 kB 00:00
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os/Fedora/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
[Errno -1] Package does not match intended download

Trying other mirror.
(1/1): cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i 100% |=========================| 3.4 MB 00:05
http://mirror.aarnet.edu.au/pub/fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
[Errno -1] Package does not match intended download

Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.optus.net/fedora/linux/updates/8/i386/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
[Errno 9] Requested Range Not Satisfiable

Trying other mirror.
http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
[Errno 9] Requested Range Not Satisfiable

Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.optus.net/fedora/linux/releases/8/Everything/i386/os/cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm:
[Errno 14] HTTP Error 404: Not Found

Trying other mirror.
Error Downloading Packages:
cups - 1:1.3.4-4.fc8.i386: failure: cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386.rpm from
base: [Errno 256] No more mirrors to try.


It seems to know which cups to install but cannot find the rpm.


----
that usually can be fixed by clearing yum cache.

why you removed cups with a --nodeps is beyond my comprehension but the
following might work...

yum clean all
yum install cups
yum update

Try that and see if it installs cups

Craig




I thought removing cups would clear up any faulty connections, it has
worked for

me in the past.

[david@reddwarf burner]$ rpm -qa |grep cups
cups-pdf-2.4.6-3.fc8.i386
apcupsd-std-3.10.18-1.i386
gutenprint-cups-5.0.1-5.fc8.i386
cups-libs-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386
cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386
libgnomecups-0.2.2-11.fc8.i386
[david@reddwarf burner]

Cups is now installed I had to do the manual method.

yum updated 31 files but no cups yet
Still not printing.




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Aaron Konstam wrote:


I've done a "rpm -e --nodeps cups" then "yum install cups" and got to
the point where
thunderbird and firefox send a print request to my HP PSC 2110 but is
not printed out.

I still cannot open "localhost 631" 'Unable to connect'.



----
how about in firefox...

http://localhost:631

?

Craig




comes up with "Unable to connect"

david


It seems to me there are only two possibilities:
1. cupsd is not running. What does : ps aux -columns 256 |grep cupsd
return/
2. Your /etc/hosts file does not define a localhost. Use the ip number
of ypur machine rather than localhost.
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[root@reddwarf ~]# ps aux -columns 256 |grep cupsd
ERROR: Unknown user-defined format specifier "lumns".
********* simple selection ********* ********* selection by list *********
-A all processes -C by command name
-N negate selection -G by real group ID (supports names)
-a all w/ tty except session leaders -U by real user ID (supports names)
-d all except session leaders -g by session OR by effective
group name

-e all processes -p by process ID
T all processes on this terminal -s processes in the sessions given
a all w/ tty, including other users -t by tty
g OBSOLETE -- DO NOT USE -u by effective user ID (supports
names)

r only running processes U processes for specified users
x processes w/o controlling ttys t by tty
*********** output format ********** *********** long options ***********
-o,o user-defined -f full --Group --User --pid --cols --ppid
-j,j job control s signal --group --user --sid --rows --info
-O,O preloaded -o v virtual memory --cumulative --format --deselect
-l,l long u user-oriented --sort --tty --forest --version
-F extra full X registers --heading --no-heading --context
********* misc options *********
-V,V show version L list format codes f ASCII art forest
-m,m,-L,-T,H threads S children in sum -y change -l format
-M,Z security data c true command name -c scheduling class
-w,w wide output n numeric WCHAN,UID -H process hierarchy

Could you give me an example of the /etc/hosts/ file please

thanks david

Hope this helps david

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Aaron Konstam wrote:


I've done a "rpm -e --nodeps cups" then "yum install cups" and got to
the point where
thunderbird and firefox send a print request to my HP PSC 2110 but is
not printed out.

I still cannot open "localhost 631" 'Unable to connect'.



----
how about in firefox...

http://localhost:631

?

Craig




comes up with "Unable to connect"

david


It seems to me there are only two possibilities:
1. cupsd is not running. What does : ps aux -columns 256 |grep cupsd
return/
2. Your /etc/hosts file does not define a localhost. Use the ip number
of ypur machine rather than localhost.
--
================================================== =====================
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known. -- Carl Sagan
================================================== =====================
Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akonstam@sbcglobal.net



Could you give me an example of /etc/hosts file please

ps aux -columns 256 |grep cupsd

[david@reddwarf ~]$ ps aux -columns 256 |grep cupsd
ERROR: Unknown user-defined format specifier "lumns".
********* simple selection ********* ********* selection by list *********
-A all processes -C by command name
-N negate selection -G by real group ID (supports names)
-a all w/ tty except session leaders -U by real user ID (supports names)
-d all except session leaders -g by session OR by effective
group name

-e all processes -p by process ID
T all processes on this terminal -s processes in the sessions given
a all w/ tty, including other users -t by tty
g OBSOLETE -- DO NOT USE -u by effective user ID (supports
names)

r only running processes U processes for specified users
x processes w/o controlling ttys t by tty
*********** output format ********** *********** long options ***********
-o,o user-defined -f full --Group --User --pid --cols --ppid
-j,j job control s signal --group --user --sid --rows --info
-O,O preloaded -o v virtual memory --cumulative --format --deselect
-l,l long u user-oriented --sort --tty --forest --version
-F extra full X registers --heading --no-heading --context
********* misc options *********
-V,V show version L list format codes f ASCII art forest
-m,m,-L,-T,H threads S children in sum -y change -l format
-M,Z security data c true command name -c scheduling class
-w,w wide output n numeric WCHAN,UID -H process hierarchy
[david@reddwarf ~]$


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On Fri, 2007-12-14 at 09:00 +1000, david walcroft wrote:
> Craig White wrote:
> > On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 15:57 +1000, david walcroft wrote:

> >>
> >> It seems to know which cups to install but cannot find the rpm.
> >>
> > ----
> > that usually can be fixed by clearing yum cache.
> >
> > why you removed cups with a --nodeps is beyond my comprehension but the
> > following might work...
> >
> > yum clean all
> > yum install cups
> > yum update
> >
> > Try that and see if it installs cups
> >
> > Craig
> >
> >
>
> I thought removing cups would clear up any faulty connections, it has
> worked for
> me in the past.
>
> [david@reddwarf burner]$ rpm -qa |grep cups
> cups-pdf-2.4.6-3.fc8.i386
> apcupsd-std-3.10.18-1.i386
> gutenprint-cups-5.0.1-5.fc8.i386
> cups-libs-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386
> cups-1.3.4-4.fc8.i386
> libgnomecups-0.2.2-11.fc8.i386
> [david@reddwarf burner]
>
> Cups is now installed I had to do the manual method.
----
I hope that did not include --nodeps

Please tell me that didn't including installing with --nodeps
----
>
> yum updated 31 files but no cups yet
> Still not printing.
----
now back to my earlier thread...

OK, you need to register and then start cups...

/sbin/chkconfig cups on
/sbin/service cups start

Then you will have to see if printer is still set up...probably easiest
to just use 'Administration' => 'Printing'

set up printer, apply changes, click 'Print Test Page'

until you get a test page to print, don't bother with any other program.
Fix the settings

Craig


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