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Old 07-04-2008, 03:24 AM
Dale
 
Default DVD and large files

Hi folks,

After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got
me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup
to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is
to large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even
posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to
burn. Will it just not burn large files or what?


root@smoker / # equery list cdr
* installed packages
[I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0)
[I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0)
root@smoker / #

root@smoker / # emerge -vp k3b

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild R ] app-cdr/k3b-1.0.4 USE="alsa arts dvdr dvdread encode
hal mp3 vorbis -css -debug -emovix -ffmpeg -flac -musepack -musicbrainz
-sndfile -vcd -xinerama" LINGUAS="-af -ar -bg -br -bs -ca -cs -cy -da
-de -el -en_GB -es -et -eu -fa -fi -fr -ga -gl -he -hi -hu -is -it -ja
-ka -lt -mk -ms -nb -nds -nl -nn -pa -pl -pt -pt_BR -ru -rw -se -sk -sr
-sr@Latn -sv -ta -tr -uk -uz -zh_CN -zh_TW" 0 kB


Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB
root@smoker / #

<*> UDF file system support

root@smoker / # uname -r
2.6.23-gentoo-r8
root@smoker / #

I also tried switching to cdrtools with no change. Oh, also recompiled
k3b after changing that, just to make sure.


Thanks

Dale

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Old 07-04-2008, 06:31 AM
Sebastian Günther
 
Default DVD and large files

* Dale (dalek1967@bellsouth.net) [04.07.08 05:25]:
> Hi folks,
>
> After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me
> a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to
> create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to
> large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even posted
> on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to burn.
> Will it just not burn large files or what?
>
How big is the tarball?
# ls -lh <tarball>

Check if you have set the Medium size correctly in K3b. Maybe you try to
burn it on a CD...

> root@smoker / # equery list cdr
> * installed packages
> [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0)
> [I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0)
> root@smoker / #
>
To be faster than Jörg:

He will advise you to unmerge cdrkit and merge cdrtools, but first
please look for the size of the tarball and the options set in K3b

> root@smoker / # emerge -vp k3b
>

HTH
Sebastian

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Old 07-04-2008, 07:05 AM
Daniel Iliev
 
Default DVD and large files

On Thu, 03 Jul 2008 22:24:20 -0500
Dale <dalek1967@bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I
> got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used
> Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying
> the file is to large. I did some googling and searched around on the
> forums, even posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how to
> get this thing to burn. Will it just not burn large files or what?
>

Hey, Dale!
Nice to see you back!


I believe it means your archive is too big for the media disk you.

Are you trying to write 4.7[GiB] on a 4.7[GB] DVD disc?

4.7 GB (giga) = 4.7 x 10^9 = 4700000000 (DVD media disc capacity)
4.7 GiB (gibi) = 4.7 x 2^30 = 5046586572.8 (the "too large" file)

"Gibi" is often incorrectly called "giga" which leads to confusions.






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Old 07-04-2008, 07:18 AM
Daniel Iliev
 
Default DVD and large files

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:05:45 +0300
Daniel Iliev <daniel.iliev@gmail.com> wrote:

> I believe it means your archive is too big for the media disk you.

Should be: "I believe it means your archive is too big for the media
disk you are trying to use."

My apologies.


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Old 07-04-2008, 07:26 AM
Dale
 
Default DVD and large files

Sebastian Günther wrote:

* Dale (dalek1967@bellsouth.net) [04.07.08 05:25]:


Hi folks,

After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got me
a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup to
create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is to
large. I did some googling and searched around on the forums, even posted
on one thread, but I can not figure out how to get this thing to burn.
Will it just not burn large files or what?




How big is the tarball?
# ls -lh <tarball>

Check if you have set the Medium size correctly in K3b. Maybe you try to
burn it on a CD...




root@smoker / # equery list cdr
* installed packages
[I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0)
[I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0)
root@smoker / #



To be faster than Jörg:

He will advise you to unmerge cdrkit and merge cdrtools, but first
please look for the size of the tarball and the options set in K3b




root@smoker / # emerge -vp k3b




HTH
Sebastian




I did set it to write to the DVD. The tarball is about 4Gbs or so. It
should fit on the DVD with no problems. I tried a lot of different
settings tho. Still no joy.


I don't think that file will fit on a CD. LOL


Maybe this will help:

System
-----------------------
K3b Version: 1.0.4

KDE Version: 3.5.9
QT Version: 3.3.8
Kernel: 2.6.23-gentoo-r8
Devices
-----------------------
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B 1.03 (/dev/hdc, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM]
[CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16,
RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R]


Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM, DVD-ROM,
DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM, DVD-R
Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump, DVD-RAM,
DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW, DVD+R, DVD+R
Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R,
RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite, Layer Jump]

Burned media
-----------------------
DVD+RW

K3bIsoImager
-----------------------
mkisofs print size result: 423 (866304 bytes)
Pipe throughput: 866304 bytes read, 866304 bytes written.

Used versions
-----------------------
mkisofs: 2.1.1a34
growisofs: 7.1

growisofs
-----------------------
Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=27'
umount: /media/hdd is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
:-( /dev/hdd: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount

growisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/growisofs -C 16,432 -M /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0
-use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty
-use-the-force-luke=tracksize:423 -speed=4 -use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m


mkisofs
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.
423
Rock Ridge signatures found
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File
/backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current
mode - ignoring

Rock Ridge signatures found
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File
/backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current
mode - ignoring

/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.
Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale.
Rock Ridge signatures found
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File
/backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current
mode - ignoring

Total translation table size: 0
Total rockridge attributes bytes: 169
Total directory bytes: 238
Path table size(bytes): 10
Max brk space used 21000
423 extents written (0 MB)

mkisofs calculate size command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs -cdrecord-params 16,432 -prev-session /dev/hdd -gui
-graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1
-volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE
K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1
-volset-seqno 1 -sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bLMd7ia.tmp -rational-rock
-hide-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bGRKstb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long
-hide-joliet-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bGlrs1b.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bbo175b.tmp


mkisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs -cdrecord-params 16,432 -prev-session /dev/hdd -gui
-graft-points -volid Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1 -volset -appid
K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM
-publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bUa5fVb.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bxZlVdb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list
/tmp/kde-dale/k3baD0Kxb.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list /tmp/kde-dale/k3bJazFqa.tmp


Let me know if you need any other info.

Dale

:-) :-)



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Old 07-04-2008, 07:37 AM
Dale
 
Default DVD and large files

Dale wrote:

Sebastian Günther wrote:

* Dale (dalek1967@bellsouth.net) [04.07.08 05:25]:


Hi folks,

After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I
got me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used
Kbackup to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying
the file is to large. I did some googling and searched around on
the forums, even posted on one thread, but I can not figure out how
to get this thing to burn. Will it just not burn large files or what?




How big is the tarball?
# ls -lh <tarball>

Check if you have set the Medium size correctly in K3b. Maybe you try
to burn it on a CD...




root@smoker / # equery list cdr
* installed packages
[I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrdao-1.2.2 (0)
[I--] [ ] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 (0)
root@smoker / #



To be faster than Jörg:

He will advise you to unmerge cdrkit and merge cdrtools, but first
please look for the size of the tarball and the options set in K3b




root@smoker / # emerge -vp k3b




HTH
Sebastian




I did set it to write to the DVD. The tarball is about 4Gbs or so.
It should fit on the DVD with no problems. I tried a lot of different
settings tho. Still no joy.


I don't think that file will fit on a CD. LOL
Maybe this will help:

System
-----------------------
K3b Version: 1.0.4

KDE Version: 3.5.9
QT Version: 3.3.8
Kernel: 2.6.23-gentoo-r8
Devices
-----------------------
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8520B 1.03 (/dev/hdc, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM]
[CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW, SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16,
RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R]


Optiarc DVD RW AD-7200A 1.05 (/dev/hdd, ) [CD-R, CD-RW, CD-ROM,
DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD-R DL, DVD+R, DVD+RW, DVD+R DL] [DVD-ROM,
DVD-R Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Sequential, DVD-R Dual Layer Jump,
DVD-RAM, DVD-RW Restricted Overwrite, DVD-RW Sequential, DVD+RW,
DVD+R, DVD+R Dual Layer, CD-ROM, CD-R, CD-RW] [SAO, TAO, RAW,
SAO/R96P, SAO/R96R, RAW/R16, RAW/R96P, RAW/R96R, Restricted Overwrite,
Layer Jump]

Burned media
-----------------------
DVD+RW

K3bIsoImager
-----------------------
mkisofs print size result: 423 (866304 bytes)
Pipe throughput: 866304 bytes read, 866304 bytes written.

Used versions
-----------------------
mkisofs: 2.1.1a34
growisofs: 7.1

growisofs
-----------------------
Executing 'builtin_dd if=/dev/fd/0 of=/dev/hdd obs=32k seek=27'
umount: /media/hdd is not in the fstab (and you are not root)
:-( /dev/hdd: unable to proceed with recording: unable to unmount

growisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/growisofs -C 16,432 -M /dev/hdd=/dev/fd/0
-use-the-force-luke=notray -use-the-force-luke=tty
-use-the-force-luke=tracksize:423 -speed=4
-use-the-force-luke=bufsize:32m


mkisofs
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.
423
Rock Ridge signatures found
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File
/backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current
mode - ignoring

Rock Ridge signatures found
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File
/backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current
mode - ignoring

/usr/bin/mkisofs: Warning: Cannot add inode hints with -no-cache-inodes.
Setting input-charset to 'ISO-8859-1' from locale.
Rock Ridge signatures found
/usr/bin/mkisofs: Value too large for defined data type. File
/backup/Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1.tar is too large for current
mode - ignoring

Total translation table size: 0
Total rockridge attributes bytes: 169
Total directory bytes: 238
Path table size(bytes): 10
Max brk space used 21000
423 extents written (0 MB)

mkisofs calculate size command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs -cdrecord-params 16,432 -prev-session /dev/hdd -gui
-graft-points -print-size -quiet -volid
Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1 -volset -appid K3B THE CD KREATOR
(C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM -publisher -preparer
-sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1 -sort
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bLMd7ia.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bGRKstb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bGlrs1b.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bbo175b.tmp


mkisofs command:
-----------------------
/usr/bin/mkisofs -cdrecord-params 16,432 -prev-session /dev/hdd -gui
-graft-points -volid Wallpaper2_2008.07.03-18.20.32_1 -volset -appid
K3B THE CD KREATOR (C) 1998-2006 SEBASTIAN TRUEG AND THE K3B TEAM
-publisher -preparer -sysid LINUX -volset-size 1 -volset-seqno 1
-sort /tmp/kde-dale/k3bUa5fVb.tmp -rational-rock -hide-list
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bxZlVdb.tmp -joliet -joliet-long -hide-joliet-list
/tmp/kde-dale/k3baD0Kxb.tmp -no-cache-inodes -udf
-full-iso9660-filenames -iso-level 2 -path-list
/tmp/kde-dale/k3bJazFqa.tmp


Let me know if you need any other info.

Dale

:-) :-)



Hi again,

I decided to try the fixed setting instead of my custom one. I usually
set them to be a little less than full but I just told Kbackup to do it
for a 4.7Gb DVD. Will post back what blows up when it gets done chewing.


Dale

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Old 07-04-2008, 07:50 AM
Dirk Heinrichs
 
Default DVD and large files

Am Freitag, 4. Juli 2008 schrieb Dale:

> After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. *I got
> me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. *I used Kbackup
> to create a tarball of my data. *K3b gives me a error saying the file is
> to large.

Is that the exact error message?

Bye...

Dirk
 
Old 07-04-2008, 08:01 AM
Dale
 
Default DVD and large files

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

Am Freitag, 4. Juli 2008 schrieb Dale:



After getting the mailing list working I did some techy shopping. I got
me a new DVD burner and k3b does not like large files. I used Kbackup
to create a tarball of my data. K3b gives me a error saying the file is
to large.



Is that the exact error message?

Bye...

Dirk



Hi,

I put the debug "stuff" in the reply to Sebastian's email. From the way
I understood the error, it could not handle a file larger than 2Gbs.
May be reading it wrong tho.


Got another test in the works at the moment. Hope it will work.

Dale

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Old 07-04-2008, 08:08 AM
Neil Bothwick
 
Default DVD and large files

On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:18:54 +0300, Daniel Iliev wrote:

> Should be: "I believe it means your archive is too big for the media
> disk you are trying to use."

If you want to be really pedantic, it should be "media disc"

When CDs were introduced, Philips reverted to the correct spelling of
disc.


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Old 07-04-2008, 08:10 AM
Neil Bothwick
 
Default DVD and large files

On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 03:01:01 -0500, Dale wrote:

> I put the debug "stuff" in the reply to Sebastian's email. From the
> way I understood the error, it could not handle a file larger than
> 2Gbs. May be reading it wrong tho.

That's right, why do you think the files on video DVDs come in 1GB
chunks. You need to split the tarball to put it on a DVD. I use dar for
backing up to DVDs, it handles these details for you.


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