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Old 02-08-2011, 05:19 PM
wireless
 
Default Handbook: Disc Labels?

Hello,

Some discussion on modifying the Gentoo Handbook to
describe how to use Disk Labels is warranted?

Many have switched to disk labels in fstab. Maybe
the Gentoo handbook should include a section on disk label
usage to prepare for the future?


just a thought,
comments?


James
 
Old 02-08-2011, 06:11 PM
Joshua Saddler
 
Default Handbook: Disc Labels?

On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 13:19:58 -0500
wireless <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Some discussion on modifying the Gentoo Handbook to
> describe how to use Disk Labels is warranted?
>
> Many have switched to disk labels in fstab. Maybe
> the Gentoo handbook should include a section on disk label
> usage to prepare for the future?

These aren't needed to get a system up and running. Yeah, Ubuntu uses
them for various ID purposes, but nothing really critical. Unless
there's a clear need for them, for example if some package in the
@system set will use them in a way that our users will see, I doubt
the handbook needs to cover them. Adding labels using udev just seems
very finicky and time-consuming, and doesn't seem like it would be of
much utility when users are already swamped with everything else the
handbook asks them to do.

If someone's willing to provide the text, then sure, I'll consider
adding it to the handbooks, but if not, then I won't spend any energy
trying to write something up. Things like GPT for hard disks are far
more important, now that the large-size disks are shipping with it
rather than the old MSDOS partition arrangement..
 
Old 02-09-2011, 12:30 PM
wireless
 
Default Handbook: Disc Labels?

On 02/08/11 14:11, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Feb 2011 13:19:58 -0500
> wireless <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> Some discussion on modifying the Gentoo Handbook to
>> describe how to use Disk Labels is warranted?
>>
>> Many have switched to disk labels in fstab. Maybe
>> the Gentoo handbook should include a section on disk label
>> usage to prepare for the future?
>
> These aren't needed to get a system up and running. Yeah, Ubuntu uses
> them for various ID purposes, but nothing really critical. Unless
> there's a clear need for them, for example if some package in the
> @system set will use them in a way that our users will see, I doubt
> the handbook needs to cover them. Adding labels using udev just seems
> very finicky and time-consuming, and doesn't seem like it would be of
> much utility when users are already swamped with everything else the
> handbook asks them to do.
>
> If someone's willing to provide the text, then sure, I'll consider
> adding it to the handbooks, but if not, then I won't spend any energy
> trying to write something up. Things like GPT for hard disks are far
> more important, now that the large-size disks are shipping with it
> rather than the old MSDOS partition arrangement..


OK, I have opened up bug 354229 on this issue. Please give some
time for folks to post to the bug on ideas and text with
examples.

thanks for your consideration.


James
 

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