About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
 

Hello

I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, opal,
yate... are completely unattended by voip team for years. If nobody from
that team is willing to maintain them, please move them to
maintainer-needed to, at least, reflect reality.

Thanks

About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
 

On 6 October 2012 22:06, Pacho Ramos <pacho@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, opal,
> yate... are completely unattended by voip team for years. If nobody from
> that team is willing to maintain them, please move them to
> maintainer-needed to, at least, reflect reality.
>
> Thanks

I have the impression the herd doesn't have any active developers.
--
Cheers,

Ben | yngwin
Gentoo developer
Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin

About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
 

On 7 October 2012 04:37, ChÃ*-Thanh Christopher Nguyá»…n
<chithanh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Pacho Ramos schrieb:
>> Hello
>>
>> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, opal,
>> yate... are completely unattended by voip team for years. If nobody
>> from that team is willing to maintain them, please move them to
>> maintainer-needed to, at least, reflect reality.
>
> The members of the voip team are usually interested in a few specific
> packages only.
>
> Many of the packages which have become unmaintained had a maintainer
> once, but these were retired from Gentoo at some point. The package
> was then left with the herd. Nobody in the herd was interested to
> maintain them but nobody was sufficiently motivated to speak out
> against this either.

Does voip herd belong to any project, is there a leader? Can you guys
get together and decide who is doing what? And then remove inactive
devs from the herd, and put unmaintained packages up for grabs /
assign to maintainer-needed?

That would make things more transparent and maybe get some movement in
open bugs.
--
Cheers,

Ben | yngwin
Gentoo developer
Gentoo Qt project lead, Gentoo Wiki admin

About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
 

El dom, 07-10-2012 a las 12:08 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió:
> On 7 October 2012 04:37, ChÃ*-Thanh Christopher Nguyá»…n
> <chithanh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Pacho Ramos schrieb:
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, opal,
> >> yate... are completely unattended by voip team for years. If nobody
> >> from that team is willing to maintain them, please move them to
> >> maintainer-needed to, at least, reflect reality.
> >
> > The members of the voip team are usually interested in a few specific
> > packages only.
> >
> > Many of the packages which have become unmaintained had a maintainer
> > once, but these were retired from Gentoo at some point. The package
> > was then left with the herd. Nobody in the herd was interested to
> > maintain them but nobody was sufficiently motivated to speak out
> > against this either.
>
> Does voip herd belong to any project, is there a leader? Can you guys
> get together and decide who is doing what? And then remove inactive
> devs from the herd, and put unmaintained packages up for grabs /
> assign to maintainer-needed?
>
> That would make things more transparent and maybe get some movement in
> open bugs.

Yes, that would be the right thing to do as now there are a lot of
packages that are like in a "limbo"

About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
 

El dom, 07-10-2012 a las 08:55 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribió:
> El dom, 07-10-2012 a las 12:08 +0800, Ben de Groot escribió:
> > On 7 October 2012 04:37, ChÃ*-Thanh Christopher Nguyá»…n
> > <chithanh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > Pacho Ramos schrieb:
> > >> Hello
> > >>
> > >> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga, opal,
> > >> yate... are completely unattended by voip team for years. If nobody
> > >> from that team is willing to maintain them, please move them to
> > >> maintainer-needed to, at least, reflect reality.
> > >
> > > The members of the voip team are usually interested in a few specific
> > > packages only.
> > >
> > > Many of the packages which have become unmaintained had a maintainer
> > > once, but these were retired from Gentoo at some point. The package
> > > was then left with the herd. Nobody in the herd was interested to
> > > maintain them but nobody was sufficiently motivated to speak out
> > > against this either.
> >
> > Does voip herd belong to any project, is there a leader? Can you guys
> > get together and decide who is doing what? And then remove inactive
> > devs from the herd, and put unmaintained packages up for grabs /
> > assign to maintainer-needed?
> >
> > That would make things more transparent and maybe get some movement in
> > open bugs.
>
> Yes, that would be the right thing to do as now there are a lot of
> packages that are like in a "limbo"

Any news here? I can move that packages to maintainer-needed if you send
me the list of packages you don't want to maintain. Also, maybe
telepathy stuff could be moved to its own herd (that is basically gnome
team + tester... or maybe tester could join gnome team ;))

About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
 

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM, ChÃ*-Thanh Christopher Nguyá»…n
<chithanh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Pacho Ramos schrieb:
>>>>>> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga,
>>>>>> opal, yate... are completely unattended by voip team for
>>>>>> years. If nobody from that team is willing to maintain
>>>>>> them, please move them to maintainer-needed to, at least,
>>>>>> reflect reality.
>
>> Any news here? I can move that packages to maintainer-needed if you
>> send me the list of packages you don't want to maintain. Also,
>> maybe telepathy stuff could be moved to its own herd (that is
>> basically gnome team + tester... or maybe tester could join gnome
>> team ;))
>
> There is now one proxy maintainer for a couple of packages, he is
> currently waiting for voip overlay access in bug 437538. He will take
> care of linphone and related packages (see bug 399735 and its
> dependencies).
>
> Regarding the packages that can be moved to maintainer-needed: I think
> a good heuristic is if the package has several open bugs with no
> maintainer reaction, and hasn't been touched by anyone from voip herd
> in over a year. This would include the ekiga, opal and yate packages
> mentioned above.
>
I'd gladly take maintainership of opal and ekiga, if nobody wants them.

Cheers,

--
Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek)
Gentoo Developer

About unresolved bugs assigned to voip for ages
 

El mié, 10-10-2012 a las 20:11 -0400, Jesus Rivero (Neurogeek) escribió:
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM, ChÃ*-Thanh Christopher Nguyá»…n
> <chithanh@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Pacho Ramos schrieb:
> >>>>>> I am noticing for a long time that bugs related with ekiga,
> >>>>>> opal, yate... are completely unattended by voip team for
> >>>>>> years. If nobody from that team is willing to maintain
> >>>>>> them, please move them to maintainer-needed to, at least,
> >>>>>> reflect reality.
> >
> >> Any news here? I can move that packages to maintainer-needed if you
> >> send me the list of packages you don't want to maintain. Also,
> >> maybe telepathy stuff could be moved to its own herd (that is
> >> basically gnome team + tester... or maybe tester could join gnome
> >> team ;))
> >
> > There is now one proxy maintainer for a couple of packages, he is
> > currently waiting for voip overlay access in bug 437538. He will take
> > care of linphone and related packages (see bug 399735 and its
> > dependencies).
> >
> > Regarding the packages that can be moved to maintainer-needed: I think
> > a good heuristic is if the package has several open bugs with no
> > maintainer reaction, and hasn't been touched by anyone from voip herd
> > in over a year. This would include the ekiga, opal and yate packages
> > mentioned above.
> >
> I'd gladly take maintainership of opal and ekiga, if nobody wants them.
>
> Cheers,
>

Would be nice as they need a lot of bumps and pending work