On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Alexey Shvetsov <alexxy@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
> That isnt true =) you can commit from shallow clone *if and only if original
> repo doesnt have a branching and merging points before and after shallow
> clone point respectively
>

Is that going to be a practical condition to maintain?

And how big will the repository actually be? Are we talking a GB or
two, or something orders of magnitude larger?

Rich

Rich Freeman пи�ал 2012-05-23 20:32:
On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Alexey Shvetsov <alexxy@gentoo.org>
wrote:


That isnt true =) you can commit from shallow clone Â*if and only if
original
repo doesnt have a branching and merging points before and after
shallow

clone point respectively



Is that going to be a practical condition to maintain?

And how big will the repository actually be? Are we talking a GB or
two, or something orders of magnitude larger?

Rich



Full clone will be about 1G or so but no more then 2. If we will drop
changelog it will be much smaller


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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 01:32:45PM -0400, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Alexey Shvetsov <alexxy@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> > That isnt true =) you can commit from shallow clone *if and only if original
> > repo doesnt have a branching and merging points before and after shallow
> > clone point respectively
> Is that going to be a practical condition to maintain?
We're going to have lots of branches and merges.

> And how big will the repository actually be? Are we talking a GB or
> two, or something orders of magnitude larger?
In terms of repo size, we were going to be slicing the history into two
parts:
- fresh start
- historical

The 'fresh start' is what new commits will go on top of, and ranges
40-120MB depending on what git window compression is used.
The historical is ~1.2GB, and if you want a continuous history, you just
use graft to merge the two.

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-1


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I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git
Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems
and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's
good enough for you.
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http://arunraghavan.net/
(Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) & (arunsr | GNOME)

On Thu, May 24, 2012 at 1:07 AM, Arun Raghavan <ford_prefect@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git
> Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems
> and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's
> good enough for you.
>

+1

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Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team

On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Arun Raghavan <ford_prefect@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git
> Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems
> and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's
> good enough for you.

The difference is that while Git is much faster, comes with a very low
WTF/secs rate and really forces you to do things the right way, other
L*********e software is not and I agree with you on this.

my 0.02c ;-)

> --
> Arun Raghavan
> http://arunraghavan.net/
> (Ford_Prefect | Gentoo) & (arunsr | GNOME)
>



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+1 for git

I am more used to it, I find it easier to use regarding the utilities
as well as the gui and it is more consistent.
The fact alone that I can update a single directory in CVS without
updating all others can cause breakage, cause repoman checks may be
erroneous.


On 05/23/2012 09:37 PM, Arun Raghavan wrote:
> I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git
> Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init
> systems and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather,
> and it's good enough for you.

This sounds rather emotional to me.
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On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Arun Raghavan <ford_prefect@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git
> Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init systems
> and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's
> good enough for you.


Perhaps it would be instructive if you could tell us one advantage of
cvs over git.

(This is me exposing me to your terrible dev-flames, I was feeling too cold

Arun Raghavan пи�ал 2012-05-23 22:37:

I, for one, think we should stay with CVS and leave all this git
Linusware to the new-fangled Fedora kids with their fancy init
systems

and tight coupling. CVS was good enough for my grandfather, and it's
good enough for you.


CVS is damn slow. On every cvs up it should stat *all* files and cvs
entryes
in current state its ~212k files in gentoo-x86. It will be sloow on
every machine unless you put all this files in ram


Actual number of usefull files is only about ~60k
(ebuilds,eclasses,metadata.xml,patches)


Its comparable to linux kernel git tree ~42k files

And yes git is much more faster.

PS if ibm s/360 was good for my grandfather why we all use modern
intel pc? Lets stay under 1 MIPS machines like s/360



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Best Regards,
Alexey 'Alexxy' Shvetsov
Petersburg Nuclear Physics Institute, NRC Kurchatov Institute,
Gatchina, Russia

Department of Molecular and Radiation Biophysics
Gentoo Team Ru
Gentoo Linux Dev
mailto:alexxyum@gmail.com
mailto:alexxy@gentoo.org
mailto:alexxy@omrb.pnpi.spb.ru