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Old 03-27-2011, 08:36 AM
Samuli Suominen
 
Default FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

USE="hal" is masked in base/use.mask, but unmasked for kde-base/solid
and app-cdr/k3b in base/package.use.mask pending on KDE 4.6.x stabilization.

This is preparation for dropping the uncompressed usb.ids file from
sys-apps/usbutils, which HAL relies on.

Also, both udisks and upower now have blockers for sys-apps/hal to
prevent overlapping features.

-Samuli
 
Old 03-27-2011, 09:13 PM
Rémi Cardona
 
Default FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

Le 27/03/2011 10:36, Samuli Suominen a écrit :
> Also, both udisks and upower now have blockers for sys-apps/hal to
> prevent overlapping features.

Samuli,

I know you want to kill HAL with a vengeance. I don't disagree with the
ultimate goal but I think you've gone too far.

HAL and u{power,disks} are _perfectly_ parallel installable and there
are absolutely _no_ conflicts between the two.

Blockers should be used for _file_ conflicts, not for _feature_
conflicts, otherwise we'd have to mask and get rid of half (or even
more) of all the packages we provide in portage.

I urge to reconsider this blocker and mask.

Thanks
 
Old 03-27-2011, 09:32 PM
Mike Frysinger
 
Default FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Rémi Cardona wrote:
> Le 27/03/2011 10:36, Samuli Suominen a écrit :
>> Also, both udisks and upower now have blockers for sys-apps/hal to
>> prevent overlapping features.
>
> I know you want to kill HAL with a vengeance. I don't disagree with the
> ultimate goal but I think you've gone too far.
>
> HAL and u{power,disks} are _perfectly_ parallel installable and there
> are absolutely _no_ conflicts between the two.
>
> Blockers should be used for _file_ conflicts, not for _feature_
> conflicts, otherwise we'd have to mask and get rid of half (or even
> more) of all the packages we provide in portage.

latest pciutils blocks hal, so i think that should cover the "urge
people to migrate" aspect in ~arch
-mike
 
Old 03-27-2011, 10:05 PM
Samuli Suominen
 
Default FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

On 03/28/2011 12:32 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Rémi Cardona wrote:
>> Le 27/03/2011 10:36, Samuli Suominen a écrit :
>>> Also, both udisks and upower now have blockers for sys-apps/hal to
>>> prevent overlapping features.
>>
>> I know you want to kill HAL with a vengeance. I don't disagree with the
>> ultimate goal but I think you've gone too far.
>>
>> HAL and u{power,disks} are _perfectly_ parallel installable and there
>> are absolutely _no_ conflicts between the two.
>>
>> Blockers should be used for _file_ conflicts, not for _feature_
>> conflicts, otherwise we'd have to mask and get rid of half (or even
>> more) of all the packages we provide in portage.
>
> latest pciutils blocks hal, so i think that should cover the "urge
> people to migrate" aspect in ~arch
> -mike
>

I've changed this to be a bit more friendly.
As you pointed out, pciutils is one.
And ~arch version of upower is second.



KDE really needs to step up and get KDE 4.6.x stabilization bug open,
and this non-issue would become moot ;-)
 
Old 03-27-2011, 10:40 PM
"Andreas K. Huettel"
 
Default FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

> KDE really needs to step up and get KDE 4.6.x stabilization bug open,
> and this non-issue would become moot ;-)

True, we'd also have a new stable KDE rather sooner than later. It's only
limited fun if upstream considers your stable version dead. :|

4.6.0 looked OK for a .0 release, some regressions compared to 4.5.5
4.6.1 introduced a lot of regressions compared to _4.6.0_!

One possible cause for this might be that upstream was (and still is) in the
middle of the svn -> git migration, and that the 4.6.1 tarballs were pieced
together "by hand" from different repositories... (*)

Anyway. 4.6.2 will be tagged on thursday, and we hope this is going to be a
worthy stable candidate.

(and no, afaic that does not include kdepim...)

(*)
The discussion for 4.6.1:
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2011-February/004572.html
The ongoing discussion for 4.6.2:
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/release-team/2011-March/004619.html

--

Andreas K. Huettel
Gentoo Linux developer
dilfridge@gentoo.org
http://www.akhuettel.de/
 
Old 03-28-2011, 11:25 AM
Rich Freeman
 
Default FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> wrote:
> USE="hal" is masked in base/use.mask, but unmasked for kde-base/solid
> and app-cdr/k3b in base/package.use.mask pending on KDE 4.6.x stabilization.

app-cdr/k3b (abridged):
--- k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild 2011/03/26 14:40:09 1.4
+++ k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild 2011/03/27 17:04:14 1.5

-# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-cdr/k3b/k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild,v
1.4 2011/03/26 14:40:09 scarabeus Exp $
+# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-cdr/k3b/k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild,v
1.5 2011/03/27 17:04:14 ssuominen Exp $
-KEYWORDS="amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 x86"
+KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86"

I filed bug 360899, but you might want to make sure that nothing else
was reverted from stable when these changes were made.

Rich
 
Old 03-28-2011, 11:25 AM
Rich Freeman
 
Default FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> wrote:
> USE="hal" is masked in base/use.mask, but unmasked for kde-base/solid
> and app-cdr/k3b in base/package.use.mask pending on KDE 4.6.x stabilization.

app-cdr/k3b (abridged):
--- k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild 2011/03/26 14:40:09 1.4
+++ k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild 2011/03/27 17:04:14 1.5

-# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-cdr/k3b/k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild,v
1.4 2011/03/26 14:40:09 scarabeus Exp $
+# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-cdr/k3b/k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild,v
1.5 2011/03/27 17:04:14 ssuominen Exp $
-KEYWORDS="amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 x86"
+KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86"

I filed bug 360899, but you might want to make sure that nothing else
was reverted from stable when these changes were made.

Rich
 
Old 03-28-2011, 11:26 AM
Rich Freeman
 
Default FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Rich Freeman <rich0@gentoo.org> wrote:
> <stuff that shouldn't have gone to -dev-announce>

Apologies - did not take careful note of my headers.

Rich
 
Old 03-28-2011, 11:46 AM
Tomáš Chvátal
 
Default FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

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Dne 28.3.2011 13:25, Rich Freeman napsal(a):
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> USE="hal" is masked in base/use.mask, but unmasked for kde-base/solid
>> and app-cdr/k3b in base/package.use.mask pending on KDE 4.6.x stabilization.
>
> app-cdr/k3b (abridged):
> --- k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild 2011/03/26 14:40:09 1.4
> +++ k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild 2011/03/27 17:04:14 1.5
>
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> 1.4 2011/03/26 14:40:09 scarabeus Exp $
> +# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-cdr/k3b/k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild,v
> 1.5 2011/03/27 17:04:14 ssuominen Exp $
> -KEYWORDS="amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 x86"
> +KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86"
>
> I filed bug 360899, but you might want to make sure that nothing else
> was reverted from stable when these changes were made.
>
> Rich
>
Shit happens as it is used to say, albeit for next time it might better
rather than filling the bug fixing it yourself and just reporting it on
- -dev So it gets fixed faster

Tom
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Old 03-28-2011, 11:48 AM
Samuli Suominen
 
Default FYI: USE="hal" masked in base/use.mask and related

On 03/28/2011 02:25 PM, Rich Freeman wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:36 AM, Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> USE="hal" is masked in base/use.mask, but unmasked for kde-base/solid
>> and app-cdr/k3b in base/package.use.mask pending on KDE 4.6.x stabilization.
>
> app-cdr/k3b (abridged):
> --- k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild 2011/03/26 14:40:09 1.4
> +++ k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild 2011/03/27 17:04:14 1.5
>
> -# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-cdr/k3b/k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild,v
> 1.4 2011/03/26 14:40:09 scarabeus Exp $
> +# $Header: /var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/app-cdr/k3b/k3b-2.0.2-r1.ebuild,v
> 1.5 2011/03/27 17:04:14 ssuominen Exp $
> -KEYWORDS="amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 x86"
> +KEYWORDS="~amd64 ~ppc ~ppc64 ~x86"
>
> I filed bug 360899, but you might want to make sure that nothing else
> was reverted from stable when these changes were made.
>
> Rich
>

No, this should be the only one. I won't go into details, but I know
what happened there...

Sorry and thanks for catching it.

- Samuli
 

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