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Old 09-29-2010, 06:58 PM
Diego Elio Pettenò
 
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Hi all,

I would like to beg all developers to keep around a copy of latest
Portage (2.1.9 or even 2.2) to use for committing to main tree. Reason
being that if we add more errors to be reported, using the old stable
version will still ignore the error cases, and allow broken ebuilds to
pass through without errors.

Thank you.
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:36 AM
"Andreas K. Huettel"
 
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Hi,

as I've only recently "graduated to developer", I've got a question about
this. Diego, your request makes perfect sense to me. But, so far I always
thought "Python, portage, and gcc are the things that I really need to rely
on, so whatever I do, I'll keep those stable."

(My development machine(s) are also my real-life work machines.)

What is the general opinion on this?
Do you (developers) all use ~arch portage?
How big is the risk?

Best,
Andreas

Am Mittwoch 29 September 2010, 20:58:01 schrieb Diego Elio Petten:
> Hi all,
>
> I would like to beg all developers to keep around a copy of latest
> Portage (2.1.9 or even 2.2) to use for committing to main tree. Reason
> being that if we add more errors to be reported, using the old stable
> version will still ignore the error cases, and allow broken ebuilds to
> pass through without errors.
>
> Thank you.


--

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dilfridge@gentoo.org
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:41 AM
Dirkjan Ochtman
 
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:36, Andreas K. Huettel <dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:
> What is the general opinion on this?
> Do you (developers) all use ~arch portage?
> How big is the risk?

As another dev who generally runs stable (except things that I hack
on), another question: is it actually possible, as Diego seems to
suggest, to have two portages installed?

Cheers,

Dirkjan
 
Old 09-30-2010, 07:50 AM
Michał Górny
 
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On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 09:36:44 +0200
"Andreas K. Huettel" <dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:

> How big is the risk?

Portage was broken several times but it's always easy to fix. If you're
lazy, keep working .tbz2 nearby and unpack it to / whenever necessary.
If you're not, you can always run portage from the unpacked sources to
reinstall portage.


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Old 09-30-2010, 08:09 AM
Pacho Ramos
 
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El jue, 30-09-2010 a las 09:41 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman escribi:
> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:36, Andreas K. Huettel <dilfridge@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > What is the general opinion on this?
> > Do you (developers) all use ~arch portage?
> > How big is the risk?
>
> As another dev who generally runs stable (except things that I hack
> on), another question: is it actually possible, as Diego seems to
> suggest, to have two portages installed?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Dirkjan
>

And I would also ask, Where a portage-2.1.9 version will be stabilized?

Thanks a lot for the info :-)
 
Old 09-30-2010, 08:10 AM
Pacho Ramos
 
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El jue, 30-09-2010 a las 10:09 +0200, Pacho Ramos escribi:
> And I would also ask, Where a portage-2.1.9 version will be stabilized?
>
> Thanks a lot for the info :-)

Where -> When
 
Old 09-30-2010, 08:38 AM
Alex Alexander
 
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On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 09:36:44AM +0200, Andreas K. Huettel wrote:
> Hi,
>
> as I've only recently "graduated to developer", I've got a question about
> this. Diego, your request makes perfect sense to me. But, so far I always
> thought "Python, portage, and gcc are the things that I really need to rely
> on, so whatever I do, I'll keep those stable."
>
> (My development machine(s) are also my real-life work machines.)
>
> What is the general opinion on this?
> Do you (developers) all use ~arch portage?
> How big is the risk?

I use portage-2.2 on all my systems, including production boxes.

> Best,
> Andreas

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Old 09-30-2010, 01:10 PM
Diego Elio Pettenò
 
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Il giorno gio, 30/09/2010 alle 09.36 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel ha
scritto:
> What is the general opinion on this?
> Do you (developers) all use ~arch portage?
> How big is the risk?

Generally speaking, we used to say that "The developers are the Portage
testbed, and should run ~arch."

On a more interesting note, I run full ~arch on both my main
workstations (well, workstation and laptop, but that's the idea), and
with exception of some Python trouble before, I didn't really hit
anything nasty in years.

But, to answer Dirkjan at the same time, you can always keep around a
chroot whose only use is running the repoman commit — for a while when I
tried to run a stable system is what I have done.

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Old 09-30-2010, 03:19 PM
Zac Medico
 
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On 09/30/2010 01:09 AM, Pacho Ramos wrote:
> And I would also ask, Where a portage-2.1.9 version will be stabilized?
>
> Thanks a lot for the info :-)

If we don't find any really annoying regressions in portage-2.1.9.12
then that release will be stabilized about 30 days from now. We
haven't been finding many regressions lately [1], so there's a
reasonable probability of this release being stabilized.

[1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=335925
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Thanks,
Zac
 
Old 09-30-2010, 03:25 PM
Zac Medico
 
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On 09/30/2010 12:41 AM, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote:
> As another dev who generally runs stable (except things that I hack
> on), another question: is it actually possible, as Diego seems to
> suggest, to have two portages installed?

You can run portage directly from a checkout if you export modified
versions of the PATH and PYTHONPATH variables as described here:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/portage/doc/testing.xml
--
Thanks,
Zac
 

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