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Old 08-20-2010, 11:33 AM
Markos Chandras
 
Default Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

Hi

The Treecleaners project introduced ( over a month ) and new page[1] to track
maintainer-needed packages. This page is automatically generated. You can make
use of this page to track packages that needs your love instead of searching
bugzilla or grep the entire tree.

On behalf of the Treecleaners project

[1]: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
--
Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
Gentoo Linux Developer
Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
Key ID: 441AC410
Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410
 
Old 08-20-2010, 12:50 PM
Thilo Bangert
 
Default Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> said:
> Hi
>
> The Treecleaners project introduced ( over a month ) and new page[1] to
> track maintainer-needed packages. This page is automatically
> generated. You can make use of this page to track packages that needs
> your love instead of searching bugzilla or grep the entire tree.
>
> On behalf of the Treecleaners project

awesome! this is really cool. perhaps even announce it on gentoo-dev-
announce.

a feature request / suggestion for improvement may be to include a link
which shows bugzilla search results for the package directly (like the one
you can see on the linked packages page).

also, perhaps include a paragraph like the following:

Gentoo developers and users are encouraged to pick up maintenance for
maintainer-needed packages. Users can become maintainers for packages via
the proxy-maintainer process (link to proxy-maintainer page - could not
find it)

anyway - great work! thanks
Thilo

>
> [1]:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
 
Old 08-20-2010, 06:11 PM
Alec Warner
 
Default Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

Are you generating this and checking it in or is infra generating it
on their end?

I have some ideas for formatting and layout; plus it looks like you
are just blobbing all the packages directly into the GuideXML which
kind of sucks for structured data like this. Typically I'd go for
something like maintainer-needed-packages.xml which just contains the
data and then maintainer-needed.xml is a small webpage (no data on it
at all) that includes some custom xsl that does the presentation.

Examples of said behavior:
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/index.xml?passthru=1
http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/gleps.xml?passthru=1

-A

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Hi
>
> The Treecleaners project introduced ( over a month ) and new page[1] to track
> maintainer-needed packages. This page is automatically generated. You can make
> use of this page to track packages that needs your love instead of searching
> bugzilla or grep the entire tree.
>
> On behalf of the Treecleaners project
>
> [1]: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
> --
> Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
> Gentoo Linux Developer
> Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
> Key ID: 441AC410
> Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410
>
 
Old 08-20-2010, 06:48 PM
Markos Chandras
 
Default Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:11:57AM -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
> Are you generating this and checking it in or is infra generating it
> on their end?
>
> I have some ideas for formatting and layout; plus it looks like you
> are just blobbing all the packages directly into the GuideXML which
> kind of sucks for structured data like this. Typically I'd go for
> something like maintainer-needed-packages.xml which just contains the
> data and then maintainer-needed.xml is a small webpage (no data on it
> at all) that includes some custom xsl that does the presentation.
>
> Examples of said behavior:
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/index.xml?passthru=1
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/gleps.xml?passthru=1
>
> -A
>
I do it on my personal computer. Not related to infra at all.

I did some changes to the page to include both Description and open
bugs link ( plus the text Thilo suggested )

You may find it here[1]. I will be like this when the script run again

As for the separate files, perhaps I could do that but I need some time to
start implementing that. However I think the current structure of the page
looks good now.

[1]:http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang/maintainer-needed.xml

> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > The Treecleaners project introduced ( over a month ) and new page[1] to track
> > maintainer-needed packages. This page is automatically generated. You can make
> > use of this page to track packages that needs your love instead of searching
> > bugzilla or grep the entire tree.
> >
> > On behalf of the Treecleaners project
> >
> > [1]: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
> > --
> > Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
> > Gentoo Linux Developer
> > Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
> > Key ID: 441AC410
> > Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410
> >
>

--
Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
Gentoo Linux Developer
Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
Key ID: 441AC410
Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410
 
Old 08-20-2010, 07:19 PM
Alec Warner
 
Default Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 11:11:57AM -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
>> Are you generating this and checking it in or is infra generating it
>> on their end?
>>
>> I have some ideas for formatting and layout; plus it looks like you
>> are just blobbing all the packages directly into the GuideXML which
>> kind of sucks for structured data like this. *Typically I'd go for
>> something like maintainer-needed-packages.xml which just contains the
>> data and then maintainer-needed.xml is a small webpage (no data on it
>> at all) that includes some custom xsl that does the presentation.
>>
>> Examples of said behavior:
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/index.xml?passthru=1
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/gleps.xml?passthru=1
>>
>> -A
>>
> I do it on my personal computer. Not related to infra at all.
>
> I did some changes to the page to include both Description and open
> bugs link ( plus the text Thilo suggested )
>
> You may find it here[1]. I will be like this when the script run again

Awesome, much less whitespace wasted in the new format ;p

>
> As for the separate files, perhaps I could do that but I need some time to
> start implementing that. However I think the current structure of the page
> looks good now.
>
> [1]:http://dev.gentoo.org/~hwoarang/maintainer-needed.xml

How often do you plan on doing updates?

-A

>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 4:33 AM, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > The Treecleaners project introduced ( over a month ) and new page[1] to track
>> > maintainer-needed packages. This page is automatically generated. You can make
>> > use of this page to track packages that needs your love instead of searching
>> > bugzilla or grep the entire tree.
>> >
>> > On behalf of the Treecleaners project
>> >
>> > [1]: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/qa/treecleaners/maintainer-needed.xml
>> > --
>> > Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
>> > Gentoo Linux Developer
>> > Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
>> > Key ID: 441AC410
>> > Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410
>> >
>>
>
> --
> Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
> Gentoo Linux Developer
> Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
> Key ID: 441AC410
> Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410
>
 
Old 08-20-2010, 07:41 PM
Markos Chandras
 
Default Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 12:19:13PM -0700, Alec Warner wrote:
>[...]
> How often do you plan on doing updates?
>
> -A
>
The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only updates the page
when needed.
Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides
if an update to the page is necessary or not

--
Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
Gentoo Linux Developer
Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
Key ID: 441AC410
Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410
 
Old 08-20-2010, 08:56 PM
Thilo Bangert
 
Default Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

>
> The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only
> updates the page when needed.
> Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it
> compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides if an update to
> the page is necessary or not

perhaps you can add a timestamp at the bottom to indicate when the list
was last updated. dont know if the date on the right is updated but a
timestamp would be more accurate.
 
Old 08-20-2010, 09:07 PM
Markos Chandras
 
Default Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:56:55PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote:
>
> >
> > The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only
> > updates the page when needed.
> > Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it
> > compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides if an update to
> > the page is necessary or not
>
> perhaps you can add a timestamp at the bottom to indicate when the list
> was last updated. dont know if the date on the right is updated but a
> timestamp would be more accurate.
>

The date is accurate. I don't thing if there is a real need to know the exact
time that this page was generated.

--
Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
Gentoo Linux Developer
Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
Key ID: 441AC410
Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410
 
Old 08-20-2010, 10:13 PM
"Robin H. Johnson"
 
Default Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:07:39AM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:56:55PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only
> > > updates the page when needed.
> > > Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it
> > > compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides if an update to
> > > the page is necessary or not
> >
> > perhaps you can add a timestamp at the bottom to indicate when the list
> > was last updated. dont know if the date on the right is updated but a
> > timestamp would be more accurate.
> The date is accurate. I don't thing if there is a real need to know the exact
> time that this page was generated.
Can we break up the list for package with active bugs and packages
without?

I see a bunch of stuff in there that I use, but they've been extremely
bugfree, so I've never bothered with any maintenance.

Some bits:
app-office/ledger
net-misc/fakeidentd
net-misc/wakeonlan
net-nds/ldapvi
sys-apps/blktool
sys-apps/fxload
sys-process/incron


--
Robin Hugh Johnson
Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee & Infrastructure Lead
E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org
GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85
 
Old 08-20-2010, 11:23 PM
Markos Chandras
 
Default Treecleaner Project: Maintainer-needed page

On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:13:36PM +0000, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 12:07:39AM +0300, Markos Chandras wrote:
> > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:56:55PM +0200, Thilo Bangert wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > The script is running daily at 4:15 AM (UTC) I think but it only
> > > > updates the page when needed.
> > > > Using pquery it finds all the maintainer-needed packages. Then it
> > > > compares this list to the yesterdays' one and decides if an update to
> > > > the page is necessary or not
> > >
> > > perhaps you can add a timestamp at the bottom to indicate when the list
> > > was last updated. dont know if the date on the right is updated but a
> > > timestamp would be more accurate.
> > The date is accurate. I don't thing if there is a real need to know the exact
> > time that this page was generated.
> Can we break up the list for package with active bugs and packages
> without?
>
> I see a bunch of stuff in there that I use, but they've been extremely
> bugfree, so I've never bothered with any maintenance.
>
> Some bits:
> app-office/ledger
> net-misc/fakeidentd
> net-misc/wakeonlan
> net-nds/ldapvi
> sys-apps/blktool
> sys-apps/fxload
> sys-process/incron
>
>
> --
> Robin Hugh Johnson
> Gentoo Linux: Developer, Trustee & Infrastructure Lead
> E-Mail : robbat2@gentoo.org
> GnuPG FP : 11AC BA4F 4778 E3F6 E4ED F38E B27B 944E 3488 4E85
>
That would be nice yes, but I can't think of a way to implement it atm. I will
try to come up with something
--
Markos Chandras (hwoarang)
Gentoo Linux Developer
Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
Key ID: 441AC410
Key FP: AAD0 8591 E3CD 445D 6411 3477 F7F7 1E8E 441A C410
 

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