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Old 04-11-2010, 07:38 PM
"Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
 
Default RFC: virtual/icon-theme

What do you think about creating a new virtual package, icon-theme?

This would for example simplify the dependencies for
www-client/chromium, which currently uses this:

|| (
x11-themes/gnome-icon-theme
x11-themes/tango-icon-theme
x11-themes/xfce4-icon-theme
)

Also, possibly other icon theme packages in the tree could be added to that.

The suggested description would be "Virtual for desktop environments'
icon themes."

Suggested herd would be freedesktop.

What do you think?

Paweł Hajdan jr
 
Old 04-11-2010, 07:54 PM
Petteri Räty
 
Default RFC: virtual/icon-theme

On 04/11/2010 10:38 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
> What do you think about creating a new virtual package, icon-theme?
>
> This would for example simplify the dependencies for
> www-client/chromium, which currently uses this:
>

What other packages would make use of the virtual?

Regards,
Petteri
 
Old 04-11-2010, 11:27 PM
Nirbheek Chauhan
 
Default RFC: virtual/icon-theme

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Petteri Räty <betelgeuse@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 04/11/2010 10:38 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
>> What do you think about creating a new virtual package, icon-theme?
>>
>> This would for example simplify the dependencies for
>> www-client/chromium, which currently uses this:
>>
>
> What other packages would make use of the virtual?
>

Theoretically, any package that currently depends on gnome-icon-theme
should be able to depend on that since all those themes follow the fdo
standard for icon naming.

--
~Nirbheek Chauhan

Gentoo GNOME+Mozilla Team
 
Old 04-13-2010, 06:47 PM
"Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
 
Default RFC: virtual/icon-theme

On 4/11/10 9:54 PM, Petteri Räty wrote:
> On 04/11/2010 10:38 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote:
>> What do you think about creating a new virtual package, icon-theme?
>>
>> This would for example simplify the dependencies for
>> www-client/chromium, which currently uses this:
>>
>
> What other packages would make use of the virtual?

I think that the packages that currently depend on one icon theme, could
instead just depend on that virtual. For example, xfce works fine
without the xfce theme, provided some other theme (like gnome or tango)
is there.

Is it a requirement that more than one package should depend on it until
we can extract a virtual? I think it would simplify managing the
dependencies anyway.

Another question is, would the freedesktop herd want to maintain the
virtual?
 
Old 04-15-2010, 03:34 AM
Denis Dupeyron
 
Default RFC: virtual/icon-theme

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:47 PM, "Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
<phajdan.jr@gentoo.org> wrote:
> I think that the packages that currently depend on one icon theme, could
> instead just depend on that virtual. For example, xfce works fine
> without the xfce theme, provided some other theme (like gnome or tango)
> is there.
>
> Is it a requirement that more than one package should depend on it until
> we can extract a virtual? I think it would simplify managing the
> dependencies anyway.

This is very similar to when you want to add a global USE flag. In
that case we usually require 5 packages and a general non-specific
purpose. It can easily be translated to the present situation.

More practically I would say: use your brain. If you think it makes
sense then go for it.

Denis.
 
Old 08-02-2011, 06:20 PM
Markos Chandras
 
Default RFC: virtual/icon-theme

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Hello fellow developers,

I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual package
for all the icon-theme packages. According to this bug[1], it seems like
pcmanfm, and possible other applications too, require an icon-theme to
be present, no matter which one. So I think it would make sense to
create a new virtual package to include all the existing icon-themes.

++: Avoid ugly dependencies like || ( x11-themes/foo-icon-theme
x11-themes/bar-icon-theme ... )

- --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up with
missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes should
include all the basic icons.

[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376309

Thoughts?

- --
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:32 PM
Alex Alexander
 
Default RFC: virtual/icon-theme

On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 21:20, Markos Chandras <hwoarang@gentoo.org> wrote:
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA512
>
> Hello fellow developers,
>
> I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual package
> for all the icon-theme packages. According to this bug[1], it seems like
> pcmanfm, and possible other applications too, require an icon-theme to
> be present, no matter which one. So I think it would make sense to
> create a new virtual package to include all the existing icon-themes.
>
> ++: Avoid ugly dependencies like || ( x11-themes/foo-icon-theme
> x11-themes/bar-icon-theme ... )
>
> - --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up with
> missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes should
> include all the basic icons.
>
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376309
>
> Thoughts?

I like the idea, anything that makes things work out of the box
without sacrificing options is welcome

> - --
> Regards,
> Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:32 PM
Samuli Suominen
 
Default RFC: virtual/icon-theme

On 08/02/2011 09:20 PM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> Hello fellow developers,
>
> I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual package
> for all the icon-theme packages. According to this bug[1], it seems like
> pcmanfm, and possible other applications too, require an icon-theme to
> be present, no matter which one. So I think it would make sense to
> create a new virtual package to include all the existing icon-themes.
>
> ++: Avoid ugly dependencies like || ( x11-themes/foo-icon-theme
> x11-themes/bar-icon-theme ... )
>
> --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up with
> missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes should
> include all the basic icons.
>
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=376309
>
> Thoughts?
>

since whatever gets added to the virtual should be at least almost up to
date with the spec, and provide the most common icons

virtual/freedesktop-icon-theme for name, just my opinion...
http://standards.freedesktop.org/ as HOMEPAGE
freedesktop-bugs@gentoo.org as maintainer
 
Old 08-02-2011, 06:44 PM
Markos Chandras
 
Default RFC: virtual/icon-theme

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On 08/02/2011 07:30 PM, Ch*-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote:
> Markos Chandras schrieb:
>> - --: Not all packages include the same icons so users may end up with
>> missing icons for some applications. However, most icon themes should
>> include all the basic icons.
>
> You could have USE flags for the virtual, so that some package could
> depend on virtual/icon-theme[foo-icons], while the virtual depends on
> foo-icons? ( || ( list of packages known to contain foo-icons ) )
>
> Of course, this makes sense only if it is known or easy to find out
> which icon-themes contain which icons.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Ch*-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
>
>
Don't you think that this is a bit overkill? Do you think that having
IUSE="ipod k3b quassel skype" is better than having no use flags at all?
I personally dislike the idea since most icon themes ( oxygen, gnome,
lxde, faenza, xfce(?) ) provide pretty much the same icons.

- --
Regards,
Markos Chandras / Gentoo Linux Developer / Key ID: B4AFF2C2
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Old 08-02-2011, 06:48 PM
"Paweł Hajdan, Jr."
 
Default RFC: virtual/icon-theme

On 8/2/11 11:20 AM, Markos Chandras wrote:
> I would like to discuss the possibility to create a new virtual package
> for all the icon-theme packages. According to this bug[1], it seems like
> pcmanfm, and possible other applications too, require an icon-theme to
> be present, no matter which one. So I think it would make sense to
> create a new virtual package to include all the existing icon-themes.

www-client/chromium isn't going to take this train. I was thinking about
something similar a few months ago but it turned out to be more complex
(the icon set used depends on the running desktop environment).

Anyway, if it's useful for other packages sounds good to me.
 

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