In the aim of improving binpkgs status, I filed a bunch of bugs against all the libX* available in tree that contain wrong RDEPEND bits pointing to x11-proto/* stuff.
To x11, just don't get angry (eheh), let's discuss concerns here (actually I don't see any and I am willing to fix all the ebuilds and close all my bugs if you ack).
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 3:10 AM, <lxnay@gentoo.org> wrote:
> In the aim of improving binpkgs status, I filed a bunch of bugs against all
> the libX* available in tree that contain wrong RDEPEND bits pointing to
> x11-proto/* stuff.
> To x11, just don't get angry (eheh), let's discuss concerns here (actually I
> don't see any and I am willing to fix all the ebuilds and close all my bugs
> if you ack).
Why not provide some actual meat and potatoes here instead of a
useless e-mail with bug numbers and some stupid attempt at humor at
the expense of the x11 herd?
12-28-2009, 05:52 PM
Petteri Räty
x11-libs/lib*: wrong RDEPENDs bug
On 12/28/2009 11:10 AM, lxnay@gentoo.org wrote:
> To x11, just don't get angry (eheh), let's discuss concerns here
> (actually I don't see any and I am willing to fix all the ebuilds and
> close all my bugs if you ack).
>
Filing bugs first and then opening discussion here doesn't make sense.
It should be the other way around.
Regards,
Petteri
12-28-2009, 06:14 PM
Fabio Erculiani
x11-libs/lib*: wrong RDEPENDs bug
I discussed this a few weeks ago with some devs on IRC and the general
answer was, file bugs.
I filed bugs. About the rest, I decline any comment. Have fun.
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Jeroen Roovers <jer@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 10:10:48 +0100 (CET)
> lxnay@gentoo.org wrote:
>
>> let's discuss concerns here (actually I don't see any and I am
>> willing to fix all the ebuilds and close all my bugs if you ack).
>
> If they are genuine bugs, then there isn't anything to discuss.
Thanks, I will also create a tracker bug next time.
>
>> List of Gentoo bugs:
>
> Tracker bug is #298759[1]
>
>
> Regards,
> * * jer
>
>
> [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=298759
>
>
>
On 12/28/2009 11:10 AM, lxnay@gentoo.org wrote:
> In the aim of improving binpkgs status, I filed a bunch of bugs against
> all the libX* available in tree that contain wrong RDEPEND bits pointing
> to x11-proto/* stuff.
> To x11, just don't get angry (eheh), let's discuss concerns here
> (actually I don't see any and I am willing to fix all the ebuilds and
> close all my bugs if you ack).
As such, xextproto should be a RDEPEND of libXext or otherwise
you'd be breaking everything that's using libXext's Xdbe.h as
a build depend because having xextproto only in DEPEND would allow
--depclean to remove the required header from system
.... my 1 or 2 cents
12-28-2009, 06:29 PM
Fabio Erculiani
x11-libs/lib*: wrong RDEPENDs bug
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 8:24 PM, Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> wrote:
> [...snip...]
Samuli I know, but actually Zac told me that as of now RDEPENDs are
not considered that way. I knew that you were going to comment here
(hence why I posted), maybe it's a good time to clear out our mind and
eventually decide how to deal with those. Because most of the ebuilds
don't seem to follow your logic.
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 12:54 AM, Samuli Suominen <ssuominen@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Xdbe.h is part of libXext:
>
> Xdbe.h:#include <X11/extensions/dbe.h>
>
> x11-libs/libXext (/usr/include/X11/extensions/Xdbe.h)
>
> Where dbe.h is coming from xextproto:
>
> x11-proto/xextproto (/usr/include/X11/extensions/dbe.h)
>
> As such, xextproto should be a RDEPEND of libXext or otherwise
> you'd be breaking everything that's using libXext's Xdbe.h as
> a build depend because having xextproto only in DEPEND would allow
> --depclean to remove the required header from system
>
It won't do that unless you do --with-bdeps=y ; plus removing headers
from the system won't cause the packages to stop working, and if
someone removes the headers, they'll be pulled back on upgrade.
Others and myself have spent considerable time making those deps the way
they are because :
1) upstream packaging is a bit uncommon
2) ebuild deps don't fit with upstream deps
3) a few embedded devs told me they wiped /usr/include when making images
So if you want to fix this properly, a new DEP variable needs to be
cooked up : "add the following deps to ebuilds' DEPEND when those ebuids
DEPEND on this ebuild".
Until such a variable exist, having the protos in both DEPEND and
RDEPEND is the only _valid_ solution.
x11-libs/lib*: wrong RDEPENDs bug
