Hi,
Current situation is to mask packages that run as root. I'm seriously
considering to lift this restriction because:

1) We aren't very good at keeping this list up2date.
2) It poses artificial restrictions for some users and doens't harm the
other users.
3) Why bother to mask them?

Anyone disagree?
-Jeremy

Sound reasoning as far as I'm concerned.

Peter

On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Jeremy Olexa <darkside@gentoo.org> wrote:
> Hi,
> Current situation is to mask packages that run as root. I'm seriously
> considering to lift this restriction because:
>
> 1) We aren't very good at keeping this list up2date.
> 2) It poses artificial restrictions for some users and doens't harm the
> other users.
> 3) Why bother to mask them?
>
> Anyone disagree?
> -Jeremy
>
>

On 03-06-2010 20:28:27 +0000, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> Hi,
> Current situation is to mask packages that run as root. I'm seriously
> considering to lift this restriction because:
>
> 1) We aren't very good at keeping this list up2date.
> 2) It poses artificial restrictions for some users and doens't harm the
> other users.
> 3) Why bother to mask them?
>
> Anyone disagree?

No. Ideally we should also try to get rid of "prefix == unprivileged"
assumption (although it will remain reality for the majority of
use-cases).


--
Fabian Groffen
Gentoo on a different level

On 4 juin 2010, at 08:35, Fabian Groffen wrote:

> On 03-06-2010 20:28:27 +0000, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
>> Current situation is to mask packages that run as root. I'm seriously
>> considering to lift this restriction
>> Anyone disagree?
>
> No. Ideally we should also try to get rid of "prefix == unprivileged"
> assumption

How do we tell users who can't gain root privileges they shouldn't compile a certain package because they won't be able to run it if we remove the masks ?

--
Florian CROUZAT

On Thu, Jun 03, 2010 at 08:28:27PM +0000, Jeremy Olexa wrote:
> Hi,
> Current situation is to mask packages that run as root. I'm seriously
> considering to lift this restriction because:
>
> 1) We aren't very good at keeping this list up2date.
> 2) It poses artificial restrictions for some users and doens't harm the
> other users.
> 3) Why bother to mask them?
>
> Anyone disagree?

No +1 from me.

Ramon

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Jeremy Olexa wrote:


Hi,
Current situation is to mask packages that run as root. I'm seriously
considering to lift this restriction because:

1) We aren't very good at keeping this list up2date.
2) It poses artificial restrictions for some users and doens't harm the
other users.
3) Why bother to mask them?

Anyone disagree?
-Jeremy


running as root still works ? i suppose ther could be the case where root
could have a prefix ?


matt

On 06/06/2010 12:43 PM, mattmatteh@gmail.com wrote:

On Thu, 3 Jun 2010, Jeremy Olexa wrote:


Hi,
Current situation is to mask packages that run as root. I'm seriously
considering to lift this restriction because:

1) We aren't very good at keeping this list up2date.
2) It poses artificial restrictions for some users and doens't harm the
other users.
3) Why bother to mask them?

Anyone disagree?
-Jeremy


running as root still works ? i suppose ther could be the case where
root could have a prefix ?

matt



The thread should really be called "packages that need root privs to
run" and we have now had enough feedback that I am moving forward this
week on it.

-Jeremy

Hi Jeremy,
*
I strongly agree with you arguments. And there is some situation that user have root access and also need a Gentoo Prefix. e. g.*setting up*a ftp server using packages from Prefix on MacOSX.*(rephrasing your idea 2)

*
The Prefix users are generally highly evolved. Therefore developper do not need to decide for the users which packages should/not be installed. (well rephrasing your idea 2)

lifting this restriction will also save developpers' time. (well rephrasing your idea 1, 3)

*
Cheers!
*
Benda
*
On Fri, Jun 4, 2010 at 5:28 AM, Jeremy Olexa <darkside@gentoo.org> wrote:


Current situation is to mask packages that run as root. I'm seriously
considering to lift this restriction because:


1) We aren't very good at keeping this list up2date.
2) It poses artificial restrictions for some users and doens't harm the
other users.
3) Why bother to mask them?

On 2010-06-04, Florian CROUZAT <gentoo@floriancrouzat.net> wrote:
> How do we tell users who can't gain root privileges they shouldn't
> compile a certain package because they won't be able to run it if we
> remove the masks ?

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~mips-macos-rootprivileges"

Just kidding.

ir*g*.