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Old 05-30-2008, 05:18 AM
g
 
Default thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm: installing under f8

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greetings,

thanks to all who provided links and mirrors for thunderbird.

pulled 'thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm' from several sites.
found it interesting how size varied between.

used 'yum', similar error on all 3.

+++++
Yum Version: 3.2.7
COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm 2
Installroot: /
Ext Commands:
thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm
2
Reading Local RPMDB
Setting up Package Sacks
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Examining thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm: thunderbird -
2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386
Marking thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm to be installed
Building updates object
putting glibc in complex update
putting openssl in complex update
putting kernel in complex update
processing glibc.i686
processing openssl
processing kernel.i686
Checking for virtual provide or file-provide for 2
Searching pkgSack for dep: 2
No package 2 available.
Resolving Dependencies
1211917649.78
- --> Running transaction check

< snip >

looking for ('libz.so.1', None, (None, None, None)) as a requirement of
thunderbird.i386 0-2.0.0.14-1.fc8 - u
- --> Finished Dependency Resolution
Dependency Process ending

Dependencies Resolved
1211917652.31

====
Package Arch Version Repository Size
====
Installing:
thunderbird i386 2.0.0.14-1.fc8 thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm 45 M

Transaction Summary
====
Install 1 Package(s)
Update 0 Package(s)
Remove 0 Package(s)

Total download size: 45 M
Downloading Packages:

Package thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm is not signed
+++++

{{ pcoaa. thank you. }}

questions:

1) do lines 2 and 6 have a '2' floating or is this an indicator?

2) lines 20 -> 22 indicates need of 'package 2' for deps.
how is 'package 2' id'ed?
link to find? { searching fedora and 2 mirrors showed no mention }

tia.

i do appreciate all of help that has feed back on and off list.

thanks again.

look out f9...


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Old 05-30-2008, 08:28 AM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm: installing under f8

On Fri, 30 May 2008 05:18:40 +0000, g wrote:

> greetings,
>
> thanks to all who provided links and mirrors for thunderbird.
>
> pulled 'thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm' from several sites.
> found it interesting how size varied between.

?? You didn't really pay attention to the replies, did you?

> used 'yum', similar error on all 3.
>
> +++++
> Yum Version: 3.2.7
> COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm 2

What is the " 2" doing at the end of the command-line?
Btw, you would need "yum localinstall ..." for Yum to resolve
dependencies of locally downloaded packages.

> Ext Commands:
> thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm
> 2

> Checking for virtual provide or file-provide for 2
> Searching pkgSack for dep: 2

> Package thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm is not signed

Why did you download it from koji instead of simply running "yum install
thunderbird"? The signed package is included in the official repositories
and your favourite nearby mirror.

You could still install it with the corresponding Yum option to
ignore the GPG signature check, but that is not recommended.

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Old 05-30-2008, 09:09 AM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm: installing under f8

On Fri, 30 May 2008 10:28:09 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:

> > used 'yum', similar error on all 3.
> >
> > +++++
> > Yum Version: 3.2.7
> > COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm 2
>
> What is the " 2" doing at the end of the command-line?
> Btw, you would need "yum localinstall ..." for Yum to resolve
> dependencies of locally downloaded packages.

A minor correction here. "yum install ..." would work too, but first
searches for the given package names in the metadata, whereas "yum
localinstall ..." treats all given package names as local file
args/globs. That also results in different output, and localinstall
option's output is more helpful in this case.

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Old 05-30-2008, 09:52 AM
g
 
Default thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm: installing under f8

On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:28 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> ?? You didn't really pay attention to the replies, did you?

read and replied with results. there was a problem of something missing
for online install. there, i pulled .rpm's from several sites, including
fedora.

> > +++++
> > Yum Version: 3.2.7
> > COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm 2
>
> What is the " 2" doing at the end of the command-line?

that was one of my questions. borrow my glasses? ;o)

> Btw, you would need "yum localinstall ..." for Yum to resolve
> dependencies of locally downloaded packages.

does this include calling as './thundbird-2.0*.rpm' ?

would think yum would pick up on this and act as 'localinstall'.

> Why did you download it from koji instead of simply running "yum install
> thunderbird"?

not much to do at time, figured that as long as i would be pulling
files, 1 out of 3 had to be a good load and work.

> The signed package is included in the official repositories
> and your favourite nearby mirror.

i pulled f8 i386 torrent from fedora and is what i am in now;

[geo@argosyiayia ~]$ uname -a
Linux argosyiayia.ciee.lab 2.6.23.1-42.fc8 #1 SMP Tue Oct 30
13:55:12 EDT 2007 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux

> You could still install it with the corresponding Yum option to
> ignore the GPG signature check, but that is not recommended.

while i was replying to this, i kick up another term, #5 and entered
'yum install thunderbird'.

so, i d&d what i grin about,,,

+++++
[root@argosyiayia geo]# yum install thunderbird
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package thunderbird.i386 0:2.0.0.14-1.fc8 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
<snip>
Total download size: 24 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/1): thunderbird-2.0.0. 100% |=========================| 24 MB
05:20
warning: rpmts_HdrFromFdno: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID
4f2a6fd2
Importing GPG key 0x4F2A6FD2 "Fedora Project <fedora@redhat.com>"
from /etc/pki/rpm-gpg/RPM-GPG-KEY-fedora
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Running rpm_check_debug
<snip>
Installed: thunderbird.i386 0:2.0.0.14-1.fc8
Complete!
[root@argosyiayia geo]#
+++++

thanks for your reply.

ssooo, it just started 'yum install enigma'.

will kick a bird out with this, hopefully i will have a new coop for
it's wing back.

later.

take care, have a good one.

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Old 05-31-2008, 03:34 AM
David Timms
 
Default thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm: installing under f8

g wrote:

On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:28 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:

+++++
Yum Version: 3.2.7
COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm 2

What is the " 2" doing at the end of the command-line?


You missed one line in what you pasted into the email: the actual
command that made this output. Without that info, it would seem that you
accidentally appended a ' 2' to the command you wrote at the command line.


It might be in your history if you are interested:
$ history|grep thunderbird


Nice to see the 'yum install blah' worked after all

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Old 05-31-2008, 08:02 AM
g
 
Default thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm: installing under f8

David Timms wrote:

g wrote:

On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:28 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:

+++++
Yum Version: 3.2.7
COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm 2

What is the " 2" doing at the end of the command-line?


You missed one line in what you pasted into the email: the actual
command that made this output. Without that info, it would seem that you
accidentally appended a ' 2' to the command you wrote at the command line.


i dap [drag and paste] term in kde desktop, to a file linked to desktop. after i
drop to file, i look at what was drug and what is dropped. not a line by line read,
but a quick scan between 2.

i also did 'cl >fn'. as to just which file save this came from, i will have to look
back thru.

if this is from a '>', file will not show cli. if dap, it will be there.

my awareness of '2' was when i opened files to review for post.


It might be in your history if you are interested:
$ history|grep thunderbird


now that you have brought it up... excuse me while i check.

i knew my 'history' was clean, but wanted to see what if any was in '/var/log'.
which there was nothing.

2 of 3 directories i pulled tbird to are still on this system. 3rd is not.

1 of 2:
+++++
/home/users/www/download.fedora.redhat.com
-----
Yum Version: 3.2.7
COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.6-6.fc8.i386.rpm 2
Installroot: /
Ext Commands:

thunderbird-2.0.0.6-6.fc8.i386.rpm
2
Reading Local RPMDB
Setting up Package Sacks
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Examining thunderbird-2.0.0.6-6.fc8.i386.rpm: thunderbird - 2.0.0.6-6.fc8.i386
Marking thunderbird-2.0.0.6-6.fc8.i386.rpm to be installed
Building updates object
putting glibc in complex update
putting openssl in complex update
putting kernel in complex update
processing glibc.i686
processing openssl
processing kernel.i686
Checking for virtual provide or file-provide for 2
Searching pkgSack for dep: 2
No package 2 available.
Resolving Dependencies
1211916965.82
+++++

2 of 2:
+++++
/home/users/www/koji.fedoraproject.org/packages/thunderbird/2.0.0.14/1.fc8/i386
-----
Yum Version: 3.2.7
COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm 2
Installroot: /
Ext Commands:

thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm
2
Reading Local RPMDB
Setting up Package Sacks
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Examining thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm: thunderbird - 2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386
Marking thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm to be installed
Building updates object
putting glibc in complex update
putting openssl in complex update
putting kernel in complex update
processing glibc.i686
processing openssl
processing kernel.i686
Checking for virtual provide or file-provide for 2
Searching pkgSack for dep: 2
No package 2 available.
Resolving Dependencies
1211917649.78
+++++

it is in both, will check # 3 later.

note *resolving dependencies*.


Nice to see the 'yum install blah' worked after all


i have been enjoying learning how well yum works and what it does.

thunderbird makes me happy too.


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Old 05-31-2008, 08:33 AM
Michael Schwendt
 
Default thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm: installing under f8

On Sat, 31 May 2008 08:02:05 +0000, g wrote:

>
> David Timms wrote:
> > g wrote:
> >> On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 10:28 +0200, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> >>>> +++++
> >>>> Yum Version: 3.2.7
> >>>> COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.14-1.fc8.i386.rpm 2
> >>> What is the " 2" doing at the end of the command-line?
> >
> > You missed one line in what you pasted into the email: the actual
> > command that made this output. Without that info, it would seem that you
> > accidentally appended a ' 2' to the command you wrote at the command line.
>
> i dap [drag and paste] term in kde desktop, to a file linked to desktop. after i
> drop to file, i look at what was drug and what is dropped. not a line by line read,
> but a quick scan between 2.
>
> i also did 'cl >fn'. as to just which file save this came from, i will have to look
> back thru.
>
> if this is from a '>', file will not show cli. if dap, it will be there.
>
> my awareness of '2' was when i opened files to review for post.
>
> > It might be in your history if you are interested:
> > $ history|grep thunderbird
>
> now that you have brought it up... excuse me while i check.
>
> i knew my 'history' was clean, but wanted to see what if any was in '/var/log'.
> which there was nothing.
>
> 2 of 3 directories i pulled tbird to are still on this system. 3rd is not.
>
> 1 of 2:
> +++++
> /home/users/www/download.fedora.redhat.com
> -----
> Yum Version: 3.2.7
> COMMAND: yum -v -y install thunderbird-2.0.0.6-6.fc8.i386.rpm 2
> Installroot: /
> Ext Commands:
>
> thunderbird-2.0.0.6-6.fc8.i386.rpm
> 2

What the heck are you trying to show?
The '2' is there again at the end of your command. Why do you add it?
It must not be there, because there is no package file with the
name '2'.

> Checking for virtual provide or file-provide for 2
> Searching pkgSack for dep: 2
> No package 2 available.

See?

Same applies to your other example.

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Old 06-01-2008, 05:28 AM
g
 
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Michael Schwendt wrote:

What the heck are you trying to show?


the '2' is there in 2 'yum install thu*'.

that is, under knoq, i 'f4' to a term, type in 'yum install thu*', press enter.
after install, which it did not, and should not have. i then '<ctrl+d>' out of
term.

i opened next 2 directories, and repeated above.

i admit i am not a good typist, but i do know that i had no fingers near '2'
keys. no reason to.


The '2' is there again at the end of your command. Why do you add it?


i did not. honest. i have no reason to lie. )


It must not be there, because there is no package file with the
name '2'.


i accept your knowledge.


See?


yes. i see.


Same applies to your other example.


ok. lets forget about '2'. and i will not even mention how 'rpm' reacted. ;o)
___

i do thank you, and others for your response and help in my getting t-bird up
in other post.

i believe biggest problem in first rounds was that i had something wrong in
install. a few other minor problems went away with new install, so all in all,
this install seems to be holding.

i am now building a fuller install that is going well. after i have it loaded,
i will update and rebuild kernel.

mandrake was a learning adventure that i am glad is coming to an end and i very
much look forward to f9.

thanks again to one and all.


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